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Areaz
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark27 Posts
January 24 2012 22:52 GMT
#181
Im sorry if you people take this the wrong way. But this is terrible. I refuse to believe this had not been thought of before by pro's. They just cant silence this girl
Help me get better please :(
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
January 24 2012 22:55 GMT
#182
On January 25 2012 07:31 Zinroc wrote:
So while we are on the subject of privileged teenagers abusing mommy/daddies connections/money/resources to make themselves feel special...



You managed to take a story about someone advancing cancer research, if even by a little bit, and turn it into a reason to hate. What is wrong with you?
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goal 888
Profile Joined April 2011
167 Posts
January 24 2012 22:56 GMT
#183
This makes me feel as if I am nothing more than a tiny ant.
HowitZer
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1610 Posts
January 24 2012 23:10 GMT
#184
I'll take a healthy toxin free lifestyle over getting shot with a laser. Out of control cancer is impossible in a healthy body.
Human teleportation, molecular decimation, breakdown and reformation is inherently purging. It makes a man acute.
Zamee
Profile Joined July 2011
England51 Posts
January 24 2012 23:12 GMT
#185
On January 25 2012 08:10 HowitZer wrote:
I'll take a healthy toxin free lifestyle over getting shot with a laser. Out of control cancer is impossible in a healthy body.


So you honestly think healthy people dont get cancer? You think Lance Armstrong was unhealthy? Theres no way he could even take illegal substances due to his profession...
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
January 24 2012 23:12 GMT
#186
Really hope this works out for everyone's sake.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
ddrddrddrddr
Profile Joined August 2010
1344 Posts
January 24 2012 23:14 GMT
#187
Don't be distracted by cancer guys, we have the internet to save.
Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
January 24 2012 23:20 GMT
#188
If I had a dollar for every "omg cancer cure discovered!" thread ... jesus
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-24 23:39:48
January 24 2012 23:38 GMT
#189
On January 25 2012 08:12 Zamee wrote:
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On January 25 2012 08:10 HowitZer wrote:
I'll take a healthy toxin free lifestyle over getting shot with a laser. Out of control cancer is impossible in a healthy body.


So you honestly think healthy people dont get cancer? You think Lance Armstrong was unhealthy? Theres no way he could even take illegal substances due to his profession...


Just google Olympic athletes cancer, and you'll get a bunch of results.

I have a friend who was recently diagnosed with cancer. We ran track together in seventh grade (we're college-age now). Since then, I got pretty lazy-- if it weren't for my crazy Asian guy metabolism, I would be a fat wreck. But she still worked out and ate healthy. Then suddenly, she got sick. Was tired a lot, got thinner. Doctor said it was T-cell prolymphocytic leukemia.

She's 19. It's a cancer for adults over 30. There are 4 men for every 3 women diagnosed. She's a girl. It makes up 2% of some subset of leukemias. She got it anyways. Cancer doesn't discriminate.
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missefficiency
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany105 Posts
January 24 2012 23:56 GMT
#190
On January 25 2012 08:10 HowitZer wrote:
I'll take a healthy toxin free lifestyle over getting shot with a laser. Out of control cancer is impossible in a healthy body.

Yes, it can. Mikrotumors practically grow all the time, but normally, you have special cells in your body that kill them.
“If you want to support others you have to stay upright yourself.” ― Peter Høeg
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 00:16:47
January 25 2012 00:01 GMT
#191
On January 25 2012 05:40 ticklishmusic wrote:
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On January 24 2012 15:30 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
On January 24 2012 14:50 ticklishmusic wrote:
On January 24 2012 14:46 dAPhREAk wrote:
thought the thread was bumped because she had cured cancer. instead, some dude with a chip on his shoulder decides to shit on her.... not cool dude...


I'm just saying that her research is not original at all. I really hate seeing articles where the author makes a discovery or event seem like it's a huge deal or really groundbreaking when it really isn't.

Then I pointed out that Siemens has some problems in their selection process based on personal experience.

Well, if that's the case, then wtf is going on here. Could they really be that dumb?


Yes. It's also possible she has some sort of connection with the judges. For example, if you work in a lab, someone at the institution might be a judge, or know one of the judges. It's simple for them to be like "oh, I have this girl working in my lab. She's doing a project on X. You should give it a look." I had a friend who competed in ISEF (different science fair track), and her dad gave her a draft research proposal and told her to go crazy with it. In short, science fair judging can be pretty messed up.

There are hundreds of research papers in hundreds of topics being published, written, editted every day. The judges can't read all of them either.

To be fair though, most likely what she did was make some minor contribution to the field of knowledge-- like test out something that sounds complicated to layman, but in the field was a relatively simple experiment that hadn't been done or published about yet. My own project was of that sort (though I suppose the buzzword "cancer" is a lot cooler sounding than "cellulase" or "ethanol". That's what most "higher-level" science fair projects do.

serious.... chip.... on.... your.... shoulder....

first, you call her a plagiarizer. now, you are saying she may have cheated....
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
January 25 2012 00:07 GMT
#192
On January 25 2012 08:10 HowitZer wrote:
I'll take a healthy toxin free lifestyle over getting shot with a laser. Out of control cancer is impossible in a healthy body.



It's nearly impossible to avoid any toxins while living in the current civilized world
Yargh
Zren89
Profile Joined February 2011
United States131 Posts
January 25 2012 00:10 GMT
#193
On December 15 2011 17:44 wishbones wrote:
instead of 2 years military service, all of us should have mandatory 1000 hours spent trying to better the planet.


I like this idea very much, but that being said, mandatory ANYTHING is sort of impinging on someones freedom.
you can't get mad at basketball cause you think kobe bryant is a horrible person. you don't see basketball forums with "kobe bryant is killing basketball!". it doesn't work like that, how the SC2 community made that connection is beyond me. ~Yoduh
Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
January 25 2012 00:16 GMT
#194
thats amazing, love how technology develops
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Vilonis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 00:22:01
January 25 2012 00:17 GMT
#195
Who wrote this article? What she did is (presumably) impressive, but to me, her age is irrelevant. She (or he) could have been 80 when they created a cancer curing device. Hopefully a working prototype can be used in real hospitols soon.

On January 25 2012 08:10 HowitZer wrote:
I'll take a healthy toxin free lifestyle over getting shot with a laser. Out of control cancer is impossible in a healthy body.


You should consider reading about different kinds of cancer, and their cause. Cancer happens when a cell's mechanics that control reproduction stop working, and it, and all its replications, grow out of control. Toxins (carcinogens) can make such mutations more likely, but avoiding all toxins would not guarantee you don't get cancer. By the way, many of the preservatives in fast food are carcinogens.

Also, prostate cancer is common (almost guaranteed) in men, regardless of lifestyle. For most men however, it occurs so late that the patient would die of other causes before the cancer.
"Such is the vastness of his genius that he can outwit even himself!" - Iskaral Pust, High Priest of High House Shadow
Zinroc
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada73 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-25 00:31:16
January 25 2012 00:28 GMT
#196
On January 25 2012 07:55 Witten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2012 07:31 Zinroc wrote:
So while we are on the subject of privileged teenagers abusing mommy/daddies connections/money/resources to make themselves feel special...



You managed to take a story about someone advancing cancer research, if even by a little bit, and turn it into a reason to hate. What is wrong with you?

(quoting out of context FTW)

I think it's quite obvious that my point was that this ISNT a story about advancing cancer research, but rather a story of "a young super gifted girl omg lets idol her" ...

If stories about advancing cancer research were as popular as this minuscule contribution I'd be THRILLED because that would mean that society is actually taking an interest in research, both in the field of cancer and in general.

The fact that it takes the sensationalization of a 17 year old kids' science project to raise public interest is something I am uncomfortable with and feel is worth discussing.

P.S. gruff did provided an intelligent counter argument to my point so if you disagree with me (or anyone) please do them the courtesy of replying with a constructive counter point like he did rather than shallow personal attacks like "What is wrong with you?"... , but there I go with a futile attempt to improve the internet...

znow1
Profile Joined January 2012
54 Posts
January 25 2012 00:32 GMT
#197
A cure for cancer was found last year, but due to not being able to take patent on it no company could make money from producing it and afaik it´s still not being used.
Pwnographics
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand1097 Posts
January 25 2012 00:35 GMT
#198
On January 25 2012 09:32 znow1 wrote:
A cure for cancer was found last year, but due to not being able to take patent on it no company could make money from producing it and afaik it´s still not being used.


Rofl, there is no cure for cancer. Cancer is a group of diseases like bacterial infections, each type of cancer needs to have specific treatment. The media is just ignorant and or is being sensational to sell stories to the stupid.
Unhallowed
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada171 Posts
January 25 2012 00:35 GMT
#199
Lucky to discover before adulthood since it is harder to assassinate youth. Microbiologists are #1 in unresolved deaths.
What is evil but good tortured by it's own hunger and thirst?
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
January 25 2012 00:37 GMT
#200
On December 15 2011 18:15 s4life wrote:
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On December 15 2011 18:07 chenchen wrote:
On December 15 2011 18:03 Lightwip wrote:
On December 15 2011 18:00 chenchen wrote:
I don't want to sound like a dick and diminish anyone's hard work, but from personal experience, most (not all) of the projects that get deep in Intel and Siemens are basically done by the students' mentors. In many cases, all the high school kid has to do is to tag along and try to understand what's going on and some of them don't even understand their own projects.


But of course. How can anyone without a full scientific education hope to solve such a problem on their own when a Ph.D. can't do the same?
Medicine takes a lot of hard work, collaboration, and education. It's not possible for a high school student to do more than just a little bit.


I just want to make sure that people don't blow the news out of proportion.

Every year, dozens of high school students bust out impressive sounding projects at Intel and Siemens finals that are more likely than not the work of their "mentors", as most competitive schools nowadays have mentorship programs that pair up kids with researchers that have PhDs.

To be honest, these kids are probably much less impressive than International Math Olympiad competitors, and yet get so much more attention in the news because it's much easier to report "girl cures cancer" than "dude solves problem that 99% of our readers/viewers can't understand".


Impressive is relative word mr. skeptic. But sure, medical research is a collaborative effort, there is nothing wrong with that.. it is a lot of hard work still.


I don't know her work but seriously, 1000 hours? That's nothing for a research. If you invest 1000 I'm not sure if you would be able even to read research at the frontier. Add an extra zero and it would sound more likely.

There are thousands of researchers working on exactly this problem. How to deliver a medicine only to cancer cells without affecting healthy cells. A friend of mine who works as a researcher at Bayer's lab told me about it already years ago? And now I'm supposed to believe that she solved that problem on her own? I mean top pharmaceutical companies spent incredible amount money on the cancer research and there has been tremendous progress but they were not able to come up with drugs that prolong patient life more than, on average, a couple of months.


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