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Anti
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1113 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-28 07:37:52
February 28 2005 07:36 GMT
#1
The Great Scam - Eve Online
This link is really really long (over 15k word read) but WOW what a good read it is. Its basically one guys journey in the massively multiplayer Eve, where he starts out making an honest living in a corporate filled world. Eventually lies and deciet take their roots in his experiance and he pulls one of the biggest scams (to my knowledge) ever in a game. I just spent the last two hours reading it myself since its quite an addictive style that he uses, and I'm pretty awestruck with how it all goes.

But anyhow what are other scams or just screwed up things that people have done in MMO's?

I actually meant to post this in the sports and games if somone wants to move it
http://www.clan-rhrn.(?) | sliggy yours are ok too, but grots are sick, hes like the hovZ of RWAs. -HovZ
FroST(TE)
Profile Joined September 2004
United States909 Posts
February 28 2005 07:55 GMT
#2
mmog = ?
PoorUser on LP
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-28 08:38:24
February 28 2005 07:57 GMT
#3
On February 28 2005 16:55 FroST(TE) wrote:
mmog = ?


massively multiplayer online game i believe...

and i'm going to read it now =o

he probably should have titled it MMORPG... because thats what Eve is



edit: this is actually a pretty good paper i'm partyway through it and will probably finish it




k i finished it, pretty nice read =o

also btw for anyone that read it, a little ironic the first replier is frost(te) huh
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Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
February 28 2005 08:02 GMT
#4
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Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
February 28 2005 08:06 GMT
#5
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CyuntiyuL
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada1740 Posts
February 28 2005 08:06 GMT
#6
I'm about half way through this and so far it's a pretty good read. His writing style is rather nice.
secret base
Anti
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1113 Posts
February 28 2005 08:12 GMT
#7
On February 28 2005 17:06 Chibi[OWNS] wrote:
btw you should read my shit
http://www.geocities.com/tard17
http://www.geocities.com/tard17
http://www.geocities.com/tard17

that text file could use some   's ^^
http://www.clan-rhrn.(?) | sliggy yours are ok too, but grots are sick, hes like the hovZ of RWAs. -HovZ
n00bsaibot
Profile Joined November 2004
United States1070 Posts
February 28 2005 08:15 GMT
#8
*** SPOILERS ****

For anyone too lazy to finish the story, like me, it sounds like basically he scammed some people out of some fake online game money by creating multiple accounts and having conversations with himself to boost popularity, and ultimately in the end couldnt live with his treachery and ended up giving away his earnings to a random player to make up for it.
You fuck cows in retrospect
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
February 28 2005 08:22 GMT
#9
haha, I'm reading this..I think I might just end up reading all of it right now. Some of the lines so far are fucking hilarious. I can fully understand where he's coming from, from playing other games kinda like it too.
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
Anti
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1113 Posts
February 28 2005 08:36 GMT
#10
Yeah thats basically the jist of it but the details make it all the worth it compared to just the tidbits
http://www.clan-rhrn.(?) | sliggy yours are ok too, but grots are sick, hes like the hovZ of RWAs. -HovZ
mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
February 28 2005 08:46 GMT
#11
rofl that frosttt guy at the end got fucking lucky
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
CyuntiyuL
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada1740 Posts
February 28 2005 08:50 GMT
#12
Just finished reading. That's like the best scam ever. Great read, thanks Anti.
secret base
ComunistHobo
Profile Joined May 2004
Canada208 Posts
February 28 2005 09:04 GMT
#13
They take it to seriously, they need lives.
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
February 28 2005 09:33 GMT
#14
It was a nice read, although I feel sorry for hardhead. I think I would have given it to him. It's really interesting, because these damn mmo games can take up a large part of your life and shit..and then to be screwed out of everything you've worked for, it would just suck so bad.
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
RoTaNiMoD
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States558 Posts
February 28 2005 09:33 GMT
#15
that was hot

i can't believe i read it all

i know exactly how he feels in so many instances too...damn people who think these games are their lives and take it so seriously
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
February 28 2005 09:39 GMT
#16
For a lot of people, they are their lives.. I bet there's thousands of people that play evercrack with their spare time, every day, and every night. I'd probably be one of them if I wasn't such a cheap skate and unwilling to pay any money per month
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
OneWishOneDream
Profile Joined February 2004
Canada42 Posts
February 28 2005 09:46 GMT
#17
Haha that was a great story that he wrote. Especially Thoggins who took the entire thing a little too seriously I would say.
nOOb powa!
Anti
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1113 Posts
February 28 2005 10:08 GMT
#18
so what about other crazy scams etc, there arent any?
http://www.clan-rhrn.(?) | sliggy yours are ok too, but grots are sick, hes like the hovZ of RWAs. -HovZ
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
February 28 2005 10:11 GMT
#19
On February 28 2005 18:33 hasuwar wrote:
It was a nice read, although I feel sorry for hardhead. I think I would have given it to him. It's really interesting, because these damn mmo games can take up a large part of your life and shit..and then to be screwed out of everything you've worked for, it would just suck so bad.

Yeah, I don't know why he scammed hardhead. Feel sorry for the guy.
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
February 28 2005 10:16 GMT
#20
Oh, this scam? I read it months ago. :T
Moonlight Shadow
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27148 Posts
February 28 2005 10:28 GMT
#21
Nice read
ModeratorGodfather
n00bsaibot
Profile Joined November 2004
United States1070 Posts
February 28 2005 10:29 GMT
#22
Sorry but i cant even appreciate this scam based on merit. The greatest scam of all would to have been to simply develope a hack/bot to accumulate the funds for them. It's all about effeciency, this scam wreaks of effort.
You fuck cows in retrospect
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
February 28 2005 10:30 GMT
#23
On February 28 2005 18:04 ComunistHobo wrote:
They take it to seriously, they need lives.


Right, because you're busying yourself with winning football games and banging the head cheerleader right? Don't be such a pretentious prick.

As for the story, it's very well written and I enjoyed every word. Now my eyes bleed from staring at the screen so long. 0_o It's crazy how close that story is to my exploits in Diablo 2.

You need to read it word for word to truely appreciate his changing mood and final revalation. Sweet.
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Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
February 28 2005 10:33 GMT
#24
i don't understand mmorpg at all
JAM THE FUCKER!
dork_of_death!!
Profile Joined September 2004
United States374 Posts
February 28 2005 10:35 GMT
#25
lol.... NERDS

i mean damn seriously
i've played my fair share of bw but...

wtf calling people on the phone? IRC business meetings? rofl
GG!!!!!!
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
February 28 2005 10:41 GMT
#26
Lol that was a great story. He makes this Eve game sound interesting. Anyone know anything about it? Ive never heard of it.
Never Knows Best.
karelen
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2407 Posts
February 28 2005 10:41 GMT
#27
heh, long but fun read, almost made me intrested in the game, is it worth playing?
zzzzzz
mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
February 28 2005 10:50 GMT
#28
On February 28 2005 19:41 karelen wrote:
heh, long but fun read, almost made me intrested in the game, is it worth playing?


i played during beta, and it consisted mostly of mining, mining, mining, mining, mining, mining, mining, and mining.

or

running trade routes, running trade routes, running trade routes, running trade routes, running trade routes, running trade routes, running trade routes, running trade routes, and running trade routes.

or

a combination of both.

some people love it tho... i'm sure there's more to it than what i've described above
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hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
February 28 2005 10:56 GMT
#29
Sounds like the kind of game that'd be fun if you started from the very beginning, so you had the chance to be the big bad ass the whole time
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
February 28 2005 11:03 GMT
#30
Lol I love when he descrivbed how Thoggins would react. That Story was Gold
Never Knows Best.
Veg
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada2945 Posts
February 28 2005 11:14 GMT
#31
it was a good read

but.... to call it the greatest scam ?? its a fuckin video game

i thought he would trade the iks for money on ebay or something and ACTUALLY GET SOMETHING OUT OF ALL HIS TROUBLE???

wtf that's so fuckin sad

btw he should have given the 300million to HH at the end
that was bm T_T
asdasdas
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
February 28 2005 11:31 GMT
#32
A very good read .

Can't help but feel sorry for HH though =/.
Oxygen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada3581 Posts
February 28 2005 11:38 GMT
#33
As I'm reading this holy shit this fucking rocks!!!!!!1
Dont drink and derive. TSL: Made with Balls.
Capulet
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada686 Posts
February 28 2005 11:42 GMT
#34
What about his RL friend that he plays with? What did he think?
"I'm just killing the spiders to save the butterflies... Wanting to save both is a contradiction. What would you rather do? Keep deliberating? The butterfly will be eaten in the meantime."
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
February 28 2005 11:43 GMT
#35
Haha. I wonder what that Frosttt guy did with all the..."Isk".
Think. :)
Oxygen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada3581 Posts
February 28 2005 12:02 GMT
#36
Poor HH got scammed :[

Dont drink and derive. TSL: Made with Balls.
starofNC
Profile Joined July 2004
United States1340 Posts
February 28 2005 12:05 GMT
#37
they should have wired all the funds to one of their fake investor accounts, the fake account would then be able to vent fake anger with all the other real investors, o man the irony.. and then the fake account would also be able to spring board off that false sense of comraderie all the screwed-over-investors have together hahaha.. Thoggins is a savage
Anti
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1113 Posts
February 28 2005 12:06 GMT
#38
Have any of you googled the name of his corporation "ZZZZ Best" its a pretty damn fitting name

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/z/zzzzbest.asp
http://www.noisivision.com/minkow/swindled-a.htm
http://www.nysscpa.org/cpajournal/old/10691661.htm
http://www.clan-rhrn.(?) | sliggy yours are ok too, but grots are sick, hes like the hovZ of RWAs. -HovZ
Arbiter[frolix]
Profile Joined January 2004
United Kingdom2674 Posts
February 28 2005 12:10 GMT
#39
Interesting story.
We are vigilant.
EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
February 28 2005 12:16 GMT
#40
lol, this is AWESOME

I enjoyed every word.

I think I'm gonna try a mmorpg just to scam people.
Simon and Garfunkel rock my face off
Spike
Profile Joined October 2003
United States1392 Posts
February 28 2005 12:20 GMT
#41
agree with veg, he should have given money to HH
superlyduper
Profile Joined August 2004
United States37 Posts
February 28 2005 12:47 GMT
#42
HOLY SHIT AWESOME READ.

anymore like it?
comabreaded
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
United States2166 Posts
February 28 2005 14:56 GMT
#43
nice read. i thought he was gonna make some money off it, though what a waste!
I put the fu in fun
[ErOs]~InCoGniTo
Profile Joined June 2004
Italy513 Posts
February 28 2005 15:19 GMT
#44
i havent even read the actual story yet since i caught the "spoiler" in someones post, so i cant honestly compare but we used to scam people so much on ultima online like 5 years ago...i used to run that game.
Unless My Pockets Get Fed.. You n Your Family are Dead
Grij
Profile Joined February 2005
Sweden24 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-28 16:19:26
February 28 2005 16:02 GMT
#45
I laughed, a lot.
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
February 28 2005 17:05 GMT
#46
He should have actually gotten enough people to get the 1.125 billion then scammed, what a half-assed job

I wanted HardHead to get the money. TT!
Hi
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
February 28 2005 17:07 GMT
#47
On March 01 2005 02:05 kidd wrote:
He should have actually gotten enough people to get the 1.125 billion then scammed, what a half-assed job

I wanted HardHead to get the money. TT!


Just to think, if he put half the effort into real life as he did into that game -_- he could be the next halliburton CEO.
froZen_wYnd
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada270 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-28 17:23:41
February 28 2005 17:23 GMT
#48
good read, i can't believe i finished that
poor poor hardhead though... i feel sorry for the guy

he didn't only lose his money, but a guy he thought was his 'friend'
Sharkey
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
668 Posts
March 01 2005 10:56 GMT
#49
Was thinking about it and I came to realize this wasn't the biggest scam I have heard about. My friend's friend played Ultima Online (sp?). His character was a theif of sorts. So one day he did something (can't remember what) and he stole someone's special item. He later sold that item on ebay for $500. The very next day a new patch came out that eliminated his chances of doing the same thing again.
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LUEigi
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada148 Posts
March 01 2005 11:00 GMT
#50
I read this quite some time ago. It's pretty amusing! =D
I lost my quote in a boating accident.
mahc
Profile Joined November 2004
United States874 Posts
March 01 2005 12:10 GMT
#51
id say it was pretty kool lol

I think hardhead shoulda gotten the money too.
Messiah]Coon[
Profile Joined July 2004
United States326 Posts
March 01 2005 13:41 GMT
#52
I wonder what his IRL friend did with his share.

And it would be funny if the guy who he gave the money to was just some newbie who got bored of the game after a week and never logs on anymore. The things people will do for money.
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Smurg
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3818 Posts
March 01 2005 15:50 GMT
#53
That story is crazy shit, one of the best scams I've ever seen pulled off in a game. I used to scam people all the time on Ultima Online, good times...good times.

He has a good writing style, I like his inclusion of many analogies that help his descriptions.

"mining in Eve Online is about as fun as fucking a fat chick's festering corpse."

Or:

"In Eve Online, your lifepod is the final string in the cold vacuum of space which keeps you in the world of the living. Unfortunately, it’s about as strong as an anorexic midget in a world of steroid-laced giants."

This was such a cool thing to do, although the ending was the hugest anti-climax of all. I mean what ever became of Frostt? Did he know the amount of money he now had was the biggest he was ever likely to get? Did he just play for a while then log out forever?

Great read. <3

tehredbandit
Profile Joined June 2004
United States77 Posts
March 01 2005 15:55 GMT
#54
that was a very good read, funny, nice story line. it kept me very interested the whole time. i felt very sorry for hardhead. would be awsome if it was really a true story.

it was also very funny, i laughed out loud a lot and everyone kept asking what i was laughing at wile i was reading.

go read it now if you havent, you will be impressed.
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
March 01 2005 16:09 GMT
#55
it is a true story
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
Smurg
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3818 Posts
March 01 2005 16:12 GMT
#56
Yeah, redbandit...it's a true story...:/ Don't know why you thought it wasn't.
Rayzorblade
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1172 Posts
March 01 2005 16:41 GMT
#57
After wasting about fifteen minutes of my time reading that story, which was pretty interesting to say the least, those people are:

FUCKING GEEKS ofmasdkfjsdogjas;jk lololol.

Man, hilarious story. It's a little ironic how the narrator calls "Thoggins" the "fat slob without a girlfriend," while he creates this huge elaborate scheme of deception in order to receive millions in virtual currency, lolol. Oh man, priceless.

There's this kid who I work with that always talks about this game Eve and at work, in his free time, he logs onto the forums constantly and is giggling in his little cubicle like a maniacal little imp, murmuring things like, "OMG DESE NUBS SUX," while nursing his .jpg collection of ships.

It's really reallllly quite sad.
Klasskamp
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden54 Posts
March 01 2005 16:59 GMT
#58
it's not sad, after all the difference betweed real life and an mmorpg isnt that big, only some rules differ and mmog's aren't as complicated as real life. after all, we don't even know what "the real world" actually is.
stfu, noob
SnZ
Profile Joined September 2004
Australia122 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-03-01 17:15:24
March 01 2005 17:13 GMT
#59
The fact that he scammed them for in-game cash... makes the whole scam seem pretty weak.
I mean he got nothing out of it...
Wasted all that time and effort posting/chatting and then he ends up giving the dough to some new player...
He should've sold the online cash for USD, and buy himself a nice new computer chair to sit his fat mmorpg-playing ass on...
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yeehaw
Profile Joined October 2004
San Marino888 Posts
March 01 2005 19:02 GMT
#60
LoL at everyone, except for frost.
G_G
Anal_Ripper
Profile Joined December 2002
Russian Federation1233 Posts
March 01 2005 19:11 GMT
#61
I feel sorta bad for those people especially this Hardhead guy
and lol at author btw - calling someone and ubernerd whilst getting up at fucking 6:00 just to make some money in a game is just plain pathetic
Better to fast than eat of every meat, better to live alone than mate with all
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
March 01 2005 21:18 GMT
#62
Well written. I was pretty sad by the end.
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
March 01 2005 22:12 GMT
#63
I read this a while ago. Hardhead should have gotten the money.
rpf289
Profile Joined October 2004
United States3524 Posts
March 02 2005 02:38 GMT
#64
I think this was a great story. I still felt bad for HH though. =(
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
March 02 2005 03:51 GMT
#65
Great story, fucking great.

Scamming HH was brutal, but certainly adds to the story, good stuff.

Can't believe I read all that.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
March 03 2005 00:57 GMT
#66
On February 28 2005 17:15 n00bsaibot wrote:
*** SPOILERS ****

For anyone too lazy to finish the story, like me, it sounds like basically he scammed some people out of some fake online game money by creating multiple accounts and having conversations with himself to boost popularity, and ultimately in the end couldnt live with his treachery and ended up giving away his earnings to a random player to make up for it.

It's hillarious when he threatens to kill thoggins.
And then envisions him being shot by cops.
After giving him the phone number to a god damn library (called from there too).
H i l l a r i o u s.

On a more serious note:

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CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
March 03 2005 00:59 GMT
#67
This tale of deceipt, treachery and power hunger have inspired me to buy eve online and give it a try.
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
March 03 2005 01:00 GMT
#68
On March 01 2005 00:19 [ErOs]~InCoGniTo wrote:
i havent even read the actual story yet since i caught the "spoiler" in someones post, so i cant honestly compare but we used to scam people so much on ultima online like 5 years ago...i used to run that game.

I bet you are from sicili
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
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