Just for the record, I'm sure this has been brought up before, but nonetheless, the similarities between the Libyan and Syrian "uprisings" are remarkable.
On August 28 2013 11:34 Nachtwind wrote: i don´t even believe that either of both sides are responsible for this.
Yes, it's also possible that the CIA or Mossad secret agents did it. Or Saudi Arabia. Maybe Canada. Or was it Jamaica? Perhaps it was the illuminati, or aliens.
Joking, but on a more serious note, one lacking component in identifying that chemical weapons were used is that it doesn't definitively reveal who was responsibile. Each side blames one another and onlookers all have their own opinions on who else it might have been. The best route seems like it's waiting for a UN team to assess all the facts and to form a conclusion from there, which if done properly is the closest anyone can come to knowing what happened/who did it
Yes, that sounds reasonable... but thats not what the US is doing. They are claiming they already have proof Assad did this and they are preparing an attack.
What you are saying is the response of someone looking to gather information, the US is acting like its got its mind made up.
Its almost like this was the opportunity the US was looking for... they seem rather eager to get involved.
It all seems like poor stage play to me. Fool me once.....
I can see all that, but what would the US gain...not oil, not stability, not fighting terrorism. I'm not arguing they wouldn't orchestrate this after all the times they have, but I can't see the benefit of an attack/invasion.
There is no reason to bring in anti-Semitic conspiracy theories into this. Unless you were posting this as an example of propaganda -- and of a hot girl.
Wow, so there are still people who accuse everyone who critizises Israel and their controversial policies of being anti-Semitic.
No. But there are people who recognize that the claim 'Syria is being attacked because its central bank is state owned and not owned by the Jew Rothschild scum" is anti-Semitic.
'jew scum' would be the anti-semitic part of that sentence, which you injected on your own. the mind reels.
No, the whole of it is anti-Semitic, and if you don't understand why, then you don't know enough about the origin and evolution of "NWO" "central bank" conspiracy theories, probably because you have not had enough exposure to the people who advocate such theories. Lucky you.
What they mean when they say "NWO" is "Jews." What they mean when they say "central banks" is "Jews." What they mean when they rant about fiat currency or fractional reserve banking is "Jewish usurers."
The mind does reel when people act like taking the prime anti-Semitic conspiracy theory of the last 200 years and replacing the word "Jews" with "NWO" means that it is no longer anti-Semitic. You're being taken for a ride nunez, how can you not notice the swastika hood ornament?
dsousa Sorry for being sarcastic, but this is a perfect example of how the story gets tilted. Every counter point can be dismissed as lack of proof, or questionable source, etc..... but when NATO says something they get the benefit of the doubt from the public despite having a serious credibility problem in recent history (NSA, Iraq, etc).
What world do you live in? Have you even read any of this thread at all? Around half the posters here dismiss anything anti-Assad because it's "US" or "UK" or "Israeli" and obviously lies because imperialism blah blah blah, while propaganda coming out of the Kremlin basement is linked as if it were holy writ.
On August 28 2013 11:34 Nachtwind wrote: i don´t even believe that either of both sides are responsible for this.
Yes, it's also possible that the CIA or Mossad secret agents did it. Or Saudi Arabia. Maybe Canada. Or was it Jamaica? Perhaps it was the illuminati, or aliens.
Joking, but on a more serious note, one lacking component in identifying that chemical weapons were used is that it doesn't definitively reveal who was responsibile. Each side blames one another and onlookers all have their own opinions on who else it might have been. The best route seems like it's waiting for a UN team to assess all the facts and to form a conclusion from there, which if done properly is the closest anyone can come to knowing what happened/who did it
Yes, that sounds reasonable... but thats not what the US is doing. They are claiming they already have proof Assad did this and they are preparing an attack.
What you are saying is the response of someone looking to gather information, the US is acting like its got its mind made up.
Its almost like this was the opportunity the US was looking for... they seem rather eager to get involved.
It all seems like poor stage play to me. Fool me once.....
I can see all that, but what would the US gain...not oil, not stability, not fighting terrorism. I'm not arguing they wouldn't orchestrate this after all the times they have, but I can't see the benefit of an attack/invasion.
There is no reason to bring in anti-Semitic conspiracy theories into this. Unless you were posting this as an example of propaganda -- and of a hot girl.
Wow, so there are still people who accuse everyone who critizises Israel and their controversial policies of being anti-Semitic.
No. But there are people who recognize that the claim 'Syria is being attacked because its central bank is state owned and not owned by the Jew Rothschild scum" is anti-Semitic.
'jew scum' would be the anti-semitic part of that sentence, which you injected on your own. the mind reels.
No, the whole of it is anti-Semitic, and if you don't understand why, then you don't know enough about the origin and evolution of "NWO" "central bank" conspiracy theories, probably because you have not had enough exposure to the people who advocate such theories. Lucky you.
What they mean when they say "NWO" is "Jews." What they mean when they say "central banks" is "Jews." What they mean when they rant about fiat currency or fractional reserve banking is "Jewish usurers."
The mind does reel when people act like taking the prime anti-Semitic conspiracy theory of the last 200 years and replacing the word "Jews" with "NWO" means that it is no longer anti-Semitic. You're being taken for a ride nunez, how can you not notice the swastika hood ornament?
Check out this anti-semite.
You see what anyone who has alternate opinions is dealing with here. Half the people will defend the US blindly because of patriotism and another large group will call you racist or anti-semitic if you question anything that Israel does.
They've constructed a box for you and the mindless help maintain its borders.
On August 28 2013 11:45 FallDownMarigold wrote: [quote] Yes, it's also possible that the CIA or Mossad secret agents did it. Or Saudi Arabia. Maybe Canada. Or was it Jamaica? Perhaps it was the illuminati, or aliens.
Joking, but on a more serious note, one lacking component in identifying that chemical weapons were used is that it doesn't definitively reveal who was responsibile. Each side blames one another and onlookers all have their own opinions on who else it might have been. The best route seems like it's waiting for a UN team to assess all the facts and to form a conclusion from there, which if done properly is the closest anyone can come to knowing what happened/who did it
Yes, that sounds reasonable... but thats not what the US is doing. They are claiming they already have proof Assad did this and they are preparing an attack.
What you are saying is the response of someone looking to gather information, the US is acting like its got its mind made up.
Its almost like this was the opportunity the US was looking for... they seem rather eager to get involved.
It all seems like poor stage play to me. Fool me once.....
I can see all that, but what would the US gain...not oil, not stability, not fighting terrorism. I'm not arguing they wouldn't orchestrate this after all the times they have, but I can't see the benefit of an attack/invasion.
There is no reason to bring in anti-Semitic conspiracy theories into this. Unless you were posting this as an example of propaganda -- and of a hot girl.
Wow, so there are still people who accuse everyone who critizises Israel and their controversial policies of being anti-Semitic.
No. But there are people who recognize that the claim 'Syria is being attacked because its central bank is state owned and not owned by the Jew Rothschild scum" is anti-Semitic.
'jew scum' would be the anti-semitic part of that sentence, which you injected on your own. the mind reels.
No, the whole of it is anti-Semitic, and if you don't understand why, then you don't know enough about the origin and evolution of "NWO" "central bank" conspiracy theories, probably because you have not had enough exposure to the people who advocate such theories. Lucky you.
What they mean when they say "NWO" is "Jews." What they mean when they say "central banks" is "Jews." What they mean when they rant about fiat currency or fractional reserve banking is "Jewish usurers."
The mind does reel when people act like taking the prime anti-Semitic conspiracy theory of the last 200 years and replacing the word "Jews" with "NWO" means that it is no longer anti-Semitic. You're being taken for a ride nunez, how can you not notice the swastika hood ornament?
I wasn't aware that George H.W. Bush was a believer in the theory of a conspiracy of aristocratic European bloodlines claiming to trace their heritage back to the Roman emperors (and back even farther to the mythical God-Kings of Sumer) and reptile lizard aliens to control humanity through central banking, but thanks for playing "Spot the kook!" You won. Your prize is a lifetime of frustration at not having your ridiculous conspiracy theories accepted by anyone.
dsousa Seriously, stop and think. What if we aren't the good guys?
Being the bad guy is more fun?
Seriously guys, stop and think about my mind-numbingly banal question.
Yo, back on topic, guys. We don't care who is or isn't anti-semitic. It's a crucial time for the Syrian Civil war with a UK UNSC proposal being rejected by Russia and a State Dept brief, yet you babble about GWBsr.
On August 28 2013 11:34 Nachtwind wrote: i don´t even believe that either of both sides are responsible for this.
Yes, it's also possible that the CIA or Mossad secret agents did it. Or Saudi Arabia. Maybe Canada. Or was it Jamaica? Perhaps it was the illuminati, or aliens.
Joking, but on a more serious note, one lacking component in identifying that chemical weapons were used is that it doesn't definitively reveal who was responsibile. Each side blames one another and onlookers all have their own opinions on who else it might have been. The best route seems like it's waiting for a UN team to assess all the facts and to form a conclusion from there, which if done properly is the closest anyone can come to knowing what happened/who did it
Yes, that sounds reasonable... but thats not what the US is doing. They are claiming they already have proof Assad did this and they are preparing an attack.
What you are saying is the response of someone looking to gather information, the US is acting like its got its mind made up.
Its almost like this was the opportunity the US was looking for... they seem rather eager to get involved.
It all seems like poor stage play to me. Fool me once.....
I can see all that, but what would the US gain...not oil, not stability, not fighting terrorism. I'm not arguing they wouldn't orchestrate this after all the times they have, but I can't see the benefit of an attack/invasion.
There is no reason to bring in anti-Semitic conspiracy theories into this. Unless you were posting this as an example of propaganda -- and of a hot girl.
Wow, so there are still people who accuse everyone who critizises Israel and their controversial policies of being anti-Semitic.
No. But there are people who recognize that the claim 'Syria is being attacked because its central bank is state owned and not owned by the Jew Rothschild scum" is anti-Semitic.
'jew scum' would be the anti-semitic part of that sentence, which you injected on your own. the mind reels.
No, the whole of it is anti-Semitic, and if you don't understand why, then you don't know enough about the origin and evolution of "NWO" "central bank" conspiracy theories, probably because you have not had enough exposure to the people who advocate such theories. Lucky you.
What they mean when they say "NWO" is "Jews." What they mean when they say "central banks" is "Jews." What they mean when they rant about fiat currency or fractional reserve banking is "Jewish usurers."
The mind does reel when people act like taking the prime anti-Semitic conspiracy theory of the last 200 years and replacing the word "Jews" with "NWO" means that it is no longer anti-Semitic. You're being taken for a ride nunez, how can you not notice the swastika hood ornament?
dsousa Sorry for being sarcastic, but this is a perfect example of how the story gets tilted. Every counter point can be dismissed as lack of proof, or questionable source, etc..... but when NATO says something they get the benefit of the doubt from the public despite having a serious credibility problem in recent history (NSA, Iraq, etc).
What world do you live in? Have you even read any of this thread at all? Around half the posters here dismiss anything anti-Assad because it's "US" or "UK" or "Israeli" and obviously lies because imperialism blah blah blah, while propaganda coming out of the Kremlin basement is linked as if it were holy writ.
That kind of logic is terrible. So no-one is allowed to engage in this kind of conspiracy theorizing without being anti-semitic? To be honest i usually completely ignore most allegations of anti-semitism because i have seen it used so recklessly so many times that the whole thing is now just a total joke. Joseph Campbell, the world renowned mythologist, was subject to these allegations of anti-semitism because some jews didn't like him saying that their God was a myth. These allegations were delivered through the medium of newspaper articles all over the world. I'm not anti-semitic, but anyone who levels that accusation without real proof and personal experience is total dick.
In other words, its an easy, lazy way to dismiss something without having to have a brain cell to be able to do it properly.
EDIT: obviously allegations of anti-semitism aren't always this kind of lazy thinking, but when applied to huge groups of people and whole ways of thinking then they usually are.
On August 29 2013 02:58 Sabu113 wrote: Yeah... Depleted Uranium isn't some unique Israeli invention/tool. I think a lot of our tanks fire depleted uranium shells. Think that's also what goes in a warthog's cannon
Yep. The US massively used depleted uranium weapons in Iraq. Here a nice video about depleted uranium: + Show Spoiler +
On August 28 2013 11:45 FallDownMarigold wrote: [quote] Yes, it's also possible that the CIA or Mossad secret agents did it. Or Saudi Arabia. Maybe Canada. Or was it Jamaica? Perhaps it was the illuminati, or aliens.
Joking, but on a more serious note, one lacking component in identifying that chemical weapons were used is that it doesn't definitively reveal who was responsibile. Each side blames one another and onlookers all have their own opinions on who else it might have been. The best route seems like it's waiting for a UN team to assess all the facts and to form a conclusion from there, which if done properly is the closest anyone can come to knowing what happened/who did it
Yes, that sounds reasonable... but thats not what the US is doing. They are claiming they already have proof Assad did this and they are preparing an attack.
What you are saying is the response of someone looking to gather information, the US is acting like its got its mind made up.
Its almost like this was the opportunity the US was looking for... they seem rather eager to get involved.
It all seems like poor stage play to me. Fool me once.....
I can see all that, but what would the US gain...not oil, not stability, not fighting terrorism. I'm not arguing they wouldn't orchestrate this after all the times they have, but I can't see the benefit of an attack/invasion.
There is no reason to bring in anti-Semitic conspiracy theories into this. Unless you were posting this as an example of propaganda -- and of a hot girl.
Wow, so there are still people who accuse everyone who critizises Israel and their controversial policies of being anti-Semitic.
No. But there are people who recognize that the claim 'Syria is being attacked because its central bank is state owned and not owned by the Jew Rothschild scum" is anti-Semitic.
'jew scum' would be the anti-semitic part of that sentence, which you injected on your own. the mind reels.
No, the whole of it is anti-Semitic, and if you don't understand why, then you don't know enough about the origin and evolution of "NWO" "central bank" conspiracy theories, probably because you have not had enough exposure to the people who advocate such theories. Lucky you.
What they mean when they say "NWO" is "Jews." What they mean when they say "central banks" is "Jews." What they mean when they rant about fiat currency or fractional reserve banking is "Jewish usurers."
The mind does reel when people act like taking the prime anti-Semitic conspiracy theory of the last 200 years and replacing the word "Jews" with "NWO" means that it is no longer anti-Semitic. You're being taken for a ride nunez, how can you not notice the swastika hood ornament?
dsousa Sorry for being sarcastic, but this is a perfect example of how the story gets tilted. Every counter point can be dismissed as lack of proof, or questionable source, etc..... but when NATO says something they get the benefit of the doubt from the public despite having a serious credibility problem in recent history (NSA, Iraq, etc).
What world do you live in? Have you even read any of this thread at all? Around half the posters here dismiss anything anti-Assad because it's "US" or "UK" or "Israeli" and obviously lies because imperialism blah blah blah, while propaganda coming out of the Kremlin basement is linked as if it were holy writ.
That kind of logic is terrible. So no-one is allowed to engage in this kind of conspiracy theorizing without being anti-semitic? To be honest i usually completely ignore most allegations of anti-semitism because i have seen it used so recklessly so many times that the whole thing is now just a total joke. Joseph Campbell, the world renowned mythologist, was subject to these allegations of anti-semitism because some jews didn't like him saying that their God was a myth. These allegations were delivered through the medium of newspaper articles all over the world. I'm not anti-semitic, but anyone who levels that accusation without real proof and personal experience is total dick.
In other words, its an easy, lazy way to dismiss something without having to have a brain cell to be able to do it properly.
EDIT: obviously allegations of anti-semitism aren't always this kind of lazy thinking, but when applied to huge groups of people and whole ways of thinking then they usually are.
I sometimes dont understand people. "Someone I respect was being labeled anti-Semitic, therefore it is always wrong to label anyone anti-Semitic and I wont examine the actual claims of anti-Semitism here because its obviously wrong." Claiming that Syria is under attack because the Rothschild family of bankers want the Syrian bank to become 'owned by them' instead of 'owned by the Syrian state' is an anti-Semitic trope and has been one for a hundred years or so. For example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rothschilds_(film).
On August 28 2013 11:45 FallDownMarigold wrote: [quote] Yes, it's also possible that the CIA or Mossad secret agents did it. Or Saudi Arabia. Maybe Canada. Or was it Jamaica? Perhaps it was the illuminati, or aliens.
Joking, but on a more serious note, one lacking component in identifying that chemical weapons were used is that it doesn't definitively reveal who was responsibile. Each side blames one another and onlookers all have their own opinions on who else it might have been. The best route seems like it's waiting for a UN team to assess all the facts and to form a conclusion from there, which if done properly is the closest anyone can come to knowing what happened/who did it
Yes, that sounds reasonable... but thats not what the US is doing. They are claiming they already have proof Assad did this and they are preparing an attack.
What you are saying is the response of someone looking to gather information, the US is acting like its got its mind made up.
Its almost like this was the opportunity the US was looking for... they seem rather eager to get involved.
It all seems like poor stage play to me. Fool me once.....
I can see all that, but what would the US gain...not oil, not stability, not fighting terrorism. I'm not arguing they wouldn't orchestrate this after all the times they have, but I can't see the benefit of an attack/invasion.
There is no reason to bring in anti-Semitic conspiracy theories into this. Unless you were posting this as an example of propaganda -- and of a hot girl.
Wow, so there are still people who accuse everyone who critizises Israel and their controversial policies of being anti-Semitic.
No. But there are people who recognize that the claim 'Syria is being attacked because its central bank is state owned and not owned by the Jew Rothschild scum" is anti-Semitic.
'jew scum' would be the anti-semitic part of that sentence, which you injected on your own. the mind reels.
No, the whole of it is anti-Semitic, and if you don't understand why, then you don't know enough about the origin and evolution of "NWO" "central bank" conspiracy theories, probably because you have not had enough exposure to the people who advocate such theories. Lucky you.
What they mean when they say "NWO" is "Jews." What they mean when they say "central banks" is "Jews." What they mean when they rant about fiat currency or fractional reserve banking is "Jewish usurers."
The mind does reel when people act like taking the prime anti-Semitic conspiracy theory of the last 200 years and replacing the word "Jews" with "NWO" means that it is no longer anti-Semitic. You're being taken for a ride nunez, how can you not notice the swastika hood ornament?
dsousa Sorry for being sarcastic, but this is a perfect example of how the story gets tilted. Every counter point can be dismissed as lack of proof, or questionable source, etc..... but when NATO says something they get the benefit of the doubt from the public despite having a serious credibility problem in recent history (NSA, Iraq, etc).
What world do you live in? Have you even read any of this thread at all? Around half the posters here dismiss anything anti-Assad because it's "US" or "UK" or "Israeli" and obviously lies because imperialism blah blah blah, while propaganda coming out of the Kremlin basement is linked as if it were holy writ.
That kind of logic is terrible. So no-one is allowed to engage in this kind of conspiracy theorizing without being anti-semitic? To be honest i usually completely ignore most allegations of anti-semitism because i have seen it used so recklessly so many times that the whole thing is now just a total joke. Joseph Campbell, the world renowned mythologist, was subject to these allegations of anti-semitism because some jews didn't like him saying that their God was a myth. These allegations were delivered through the medium of newspaper articles all over the world. I'm not anti-semitic, but anyone who levels that accusation without real proof and personal experience is total dick.
In other words, its an easy, lazy way to dismiss something without having to have a brain cell to be able to do it properly.
In the adult world anti-Semitism is still taken seriously so your opinion that it is a total joke is really meaningless. Ignore it all you like, doesn't matter.
If you are so ignorant as to not know that the NWO conspiracy theory is just a slight revision of the Jewish World Domination conspiracy theory, then sure, you're not an anti-semite. But that is what it is, and people who do know that have no excuse whatsoever for advocating it.
I don't know if you're anti-Semitic, but there's a real easy way to figure out. Do you believe in the NWO? Do you believe that central banking is a conspiracy to rule the world from behind the scenes? Do you think that fractional reserve banking is a conspiracy to enslave modern man? If you do, guess what, you're promulgating anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, you are a useful idiot being used by anti-Semites who find it very amusing and useful that there are people like you out there to argue oh no it's not anti-Semitic at all, and if you get pissed off at being called out on it, tough shit. And if you don't care that you're promulgating anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, then yes, you are an anti-Semite.
Your comment about logic is a demonstration of your ignorance, which of course means your own logic could be airtight but it doesn't matter, your premises are crap so it's wrong anyway.
When they say the NWO what they mean is Jews. Get all pissy at the people who have fooled you into believing their fairy tales about evil Jews aren't really about evil Jews just because they don't say evil Jews.
The only difference between NWO conspiracy theory and Protocols of Elders of Zion conspiracy theory = NWO conspiracy theory doesn't say "Jews." That's it. Other than that they are the same conspiracy theory.
EDIT: obviously allegations of anti-semitism aren't always this kind of lazy thinking, but when applied to huge groups of people and whole ways of thinking then they usually are.
EDIT: obviously you know very little if anything of the history of the NWO conspiracy theory, and so the champion of lazy thinking for this 15 minutes would be... you. Also, speaking in generalities, "usually" that's a sign of a weaksauce argument. Like yours.
No. But there are people who recognize that the claim 'Syria is being attacked because its central bank is state owned and not owned by the Jew Rothschild scum" is anti-Semitic.
Lose the "Jew", and then what ?
I hope you do realize that Jewish scumbags are scumbags because they are *drumroll*.....scumbags. Not because they are Jews.
If you believe that Syria is attacked because Jewish owned central banks of the world want to take over the bank of syria you are an anti-Semite, expressing a piece of propaganda that is almost as old as the protocols of the elders of zion. People who hold this view do in fact believe that 'Jewish' and 'scumbag' are synonymous because they are Jews.
Yes, that sounds reasonable... but thats not what the US is doing. They are claiming they already have proof Assad did this and they are preparing an attack.
What you are saying is the response of someone looking to gather information, the US is acting like its got its mind made up.
Its almost like this was the opportunity the US was looking for... they seem rather eager to get involved.
It all seems like poor stage play to me. Fool me once.....
I can see all that, but what would the US gain...not oil, not stability, not fighting terrorism. I'm not arguing they wouldn't orchestrate this after all the times they have, but I can't see the benefit of an attack/invasion.
There is no reason to bring in anti-Semitic conspiracy theories into this. Unless you were posting this as an example of propaganda -- and of a hot girl.
Wow, so there are still people who accuse everyone who critizises Israel and their controversial policies of being anti-Semitic.
No. But there are people who recognize that the claim 'Syria is being attacked because its central bank is state owned and not owned by the Jew Rothschild scum" is anti-Semitic.
'jew scum' would be the anti-semitic part of that sentence, which you injected on your own. the mind reels.
No, the whole of it is anti-Semitic, and if you don't understand why, then you don't know enough about the origin and evolution of "NWO" "central bank" conspiracy theories, probably because you have not had enough exposure to the people who advocate such theories. Lucky you.
What they mean when they say "NWO" is "Jews." What they mean when they say "central banks" is "Jews." What they mean when they rant about fiat currency or fractional reserve banking is "Jewish usurers."
The mind does reel when people act like taking the prime anti-Semitic conspiracy theory of the last 200 years and replacing the word "Jews" with "NWO" means that it is no longer anti-Semitic. You're being taken for a ride nunez, how can you not notice the swastika hood ornament?
dsousa Sorry for being sarcastic, but this is a perfect example of how the story gets tilted. Every counter point can be dismissed as lack of proof, or questionable source, etc..... but when NATO says something they get the benefit of the doubt from the public despite having a serious credibility problem in recent history (NSA, Iraq, etc).
What world do you live in? Have you even read any of this thread at all? Around half the posters here dismiss anything anti-Assad because it's "US" or "UK" or "Israeli" and obviously lies because imperialism blah blah blah, while propaganda coming out of the Kremlin basement is linked as if it were holy writ.
That kind of logic is terrible. So no-one is allowed to engage in this kind of conspiracy theorizing without being anti-semitic? To be honest i usually completely ignore most allegations of anti-semitism because i have seen it used so recklessly so many times that the whole thing is now just a total joke. Joseph Campbell, the world renowned mythologist, was subject to these allegations of anti-semitism because some jews didn't like him saying that their God was a myth. These allegations were delivered through the medium of newspaper articles all over the world. I'm not anti-semitic, but anyone who levels that accusation without real proof and personal experience is total dick.
In other words, its an easy, lazy way to dismiss something without having to have a brain cell to be able to do it properly.
EDIT: obviously allegations of anti-semitism aren't always this kind of lazy thinking, but when applied to huge groups of people and whole ways of thinking then they usually are.
I sometimes dont understand people. "Someone I respect was being labeled anti-Semitic, therefore it is always wrong to label anyone anti-Semitic and I wont examine the actual claims of anti-Semitism here because its obviously wrong." Claiming that Syria is under attack because the Rothschild family of bankers want the Syrian bank to become 'owned by them' instead of 'owned by the Syrian state' is an anti-Semitic trope and has been one for a hundred years or so. For example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rothschilds_(film).
I actually agree with you, if you focus on the fact that its a "Rothchilds" owned central bank, howvever, if you look at from purely a banking perspective it is still relevant.
To what degree the Rothchilds are involved in central banking I have no idea.
But currencies and the IMF are big deals and they help maintain a US dollar domination of the worlds financial system. That is a very big deal. Petrodollars are a big deal and something that the beneficiaries would surely fight for.
Perhaps when she talks about the Rothchilds I dismiss it too quickly and you focus on it too much. The Rothchilds did dominate banking for centuries, they even invented fraction reserve banking. I though she made 8 strong points, but perhaps you are not wrong in saying the first could be construed as anti-semitic. I didn't immediately see it that way, but I could see how someone would.
On August 28 2013 11:45 FallDownMarigold wrote: [quote] Yes, it's also possible that the CIA or Mossad secret agents did it. Or Saudi Arabia. Maybe Canada. Or was it Jamaica? Perhaps it was the illuminati, or aliens.
Joking, but on a more serious note, one lacking component in identifying that chemical weapons were used is that it doesn't definitively reveal who was responsibile. Each side blames one another and onlookers all have their own opinions on who else it might have been. The best route seems like it's waiting for a UN team to assess all the facts and to form a conclusion from there, which if done properly is the closest anyone can come to knowing what happened/who did it
Yes, that sounds reasonable... but thats not what the US is doing. They are claiming they already have proof Assad did this and they are preparing an attack.
What you are saying is the response of someone looking to gather information, the US is acting like its got its mind made up.
Its almost like this was the opportunity the US was looking for... they seem rather eager to get involved.
It all seems like poor stage play to me. Fool me once.....
I can see all that, but what would the US gain...not oil, not stability, not fighting terrorism. I'm not arguing they wouldn't orchestrate this after all the times they have, but I can't see the benefit of an attack/invasion.
There is no reason to bring in anti-Semitic conspiracy theories into this. Unless you were posting this as an example of propaganda -- and of a hot girl.
Wow, so there are still people who accuse everyone who critizises Israel and their controversial policies of being anti-Semitic.
No. But there are people who recognize that the claim 'Syria is being attacked because its central bank is state owned and not owned by the Jew Rothschild scum" is anti-Semitic.
'jew scum' would be the anti-semitic part of that sentence, which you injected on your own. the mind reels.
i did watch the video already! figured it was anti-zionist not anti-semitic...
When the first claim of the video is a line by line recitation of claims made against Jews by Czarist and Nazi propaganda its not anti-Zionist, its anti-Semitic.
I can see all that, but what would the US gain...not oil, not stability, not fighting terrorism. I'm not arguing they wouldn't orchestrate this after all the times they have, but I can't see the benefit of an attack/invasion.
There is no reason to bring in anti-Semitic conspiracy theories into this. Unless you were posting this as an example of propaganda -- and of a hot girl.
Wow, so there are still people who accuse everyone who critizises Israel and their controversial policies of being anti-Semitic.
No. But there are people who recognize that the claim 'Syria is being attacked because its central bank is state owned and not owned by the Jew Rothschild scum" is anti-Semitic.
'jew scum' would be the anti-semitic part of that sentence, which you injected on your own. the mind reels.
No, the whole of it is anti-Semitic, and if you don't understand why, then you don't know enough about the origin and evolution of "NWO" "central bank" conspiracy theories, probably because you have not had enough exposure to the people who advocate such theories. Lucky you.
What they mean when they say "NWO" is "Jews." What they mean when they say "central banks" is "Jews." What they mean when they rant about fiat currency or fractional reserve banking is "Jewish usurers."
The mind does reel when people act like taking the prime anti-Semitic conspiracy theory of the last 200 years and replacing the word "Jews" with "NWO" means that it is no longer anti-Semitic. You're being taken for a ride nunez, how can you not notice the swastika hood ornament?
dsousa Sorry for being sarcastic, but this is a perfect example of how the story gets tilted. Every counter point can be dismissed as lack of proof, or questionable source, etc..... but when NATO says something they get the benefit of the doubt from the public despite having a serious credibility problem in recent history (NSA, Iraq, etc).
What world do you live in? Have you even read any of this thread at all? Around half the posters here dismiss anything anti-Assad because it's "US" or "UK" or "Israeli" and obviously lies because imperialism blah blah blah, while propaganda coming out of the Kremlin basement is linked as if it were holy writ.
That kind of logic is terrible. So no-one is allowed to engage in this kind of conspiracy theorizing without being anti-semitic? To be honest i usually completely ignore most allegations of anti-semitism because i have seen it used so recklessly so many times that the whole thing is now just a total joke. Joseph Campbell, the world renowned mythologist, was subject to these allegations of anti-semitism because some jews didn't like him saying that their God was a myth. These allegations were delivered through the medium of newspaper articles all over the world. I'm not anti-semitic, but anyone who levels that accusation without real proof and personal experience is total dick.
In other words, its an easy, lazy way to dismiss something without having to have a brain cell to be able to do it properly.
EDIT: obviously allegations of anti-semitism aren't always this kind of lazy thinking, but when applied to huge groups of people and whole ways of thinking then they usually are.
I sometimes dont understand people. "Someone I respect was being labeled anti-Semitic, therefore it is always wrong to label anyone anti-Semitic and I wont examine the actual claims of anti-Semitism here because its obviously wrong." Claiming that Syria is under attack because the Rothschild family of bankers want the Syrian bank to become 'owned by them' instead of 'owned by the Syrian state' is an anti-Semitic trope and has been one for a hundred years or so. For example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rothschilds_(film).
I actually agree with you, if you focus on the fact that its a "Rothchilds" owned central bank, howvever, if you look at from purely a banking perspective it is still relevant.
To what degree the Rothchilds are involved in central banking I have no idea.
But currencies and the IMF are big deals and they help maintain a US dollar domination of the worlds financial system. That is a very big deal. Petrodollars are a big deal and something that the beneficiaries would surely fight for.
Perhaps when she talks about the Rothchilds I dismiss it too quickly and you focus on it too much. I though she made 8 strong points, but perhaps you are not wrong in saying the first could be construed as anti-semitic. I didn't immediately see it that way, but I could see how someone would.
What did you think of her other 7 points?
The 7 other points are all out of the same anti-Semitic conspiracy theory, if she doesn't think it's the Jews she's a useful idiot for anti-Semites, if she does, she's an anti-Semite herself.
There is no reason to bring in anti-Semitic conspiracy theories into this. Unless you were posting this as an example of propaganda -- and of a hot girl.
Wow, so there are still people who accuse everyone who critizises Israel and their controversial policies of being anti-Semitic.
No. But there are people who recognize that the claim 'Syria is being attacked because its central bank is state owned and not owned by the Jew Rothschild scum" is anti-Semitic.
'jew scum' would be the anti-semitic part of that sentence, which you injected on your own. the mind reels.
No, the whole of it is anti-Semitic, and if you don't understand why, then you don't know enough about the origin and evolution of "NWO" "central bank" conspiracy theories, probably because you have not had enough exposure to the people who advocate such theories. Lucky you.
What they mean when they say "NWO" is "Jews." What they mean when they say "central banks" is "Jews." What they mean when they rant about fiat currency or fractional reserve banking is "Jewish usurers."
The mind does reel when people act like taking the prime anti-Semitic conspiracy theory of the last 200 years and replacing the word "Jews" with "NWO" means that it is no longer anti-Semitic. You're being taken for a ride nunez, how can you not notice the swastika hood ornament?
dsousa Sorry for being sarcastic, but this is a perfect example of how the story gets tilted. Every counter point can be dismissed as lack of proof, or questionable source, etc..... but when NATO says something they get the benefit of the doubt from the public despite having a serious credibility problem in recent history (NSA, Iraq, etc).
What world do you live in? Have you even read any of this thread at all? Around half the posters here dismiss anything anti-Assad because it's "US" or "UK" or "Israeli" and obviously lies because imperialism blah blah blah, while propaganda coming out of the Kremlin basement is linked as if it were holy writ.
That kind of logic is terrible. So no-one is allowed to engage in this kind of conspiracy theorizing without being anti-semitic? To be honest i usually completely ignore most allegations of anti-semitism because i have seen it used so recklessly so many times that the whole thing is now just a total joke. Joseph Campbell, the world renowned mythologist, was subject to these allegations of anti-semitism because some jews didn't like him saying that their God was a myth. These allegations were delivered through the medium of newspaper articles all over the world. I'm not anti-semitic, but anyone who levels that accusation without real proof and personal experience is total dick.
In other words, its an easy, lazy way to dismiss something without having to have a brain cell to be able to do it properly.
EDIT: obviously allegations of anti-semitism aren't always this kind of lazy thinking, but when applied to huge groups of people and whole ways of thinking then they usually are.
I sometimes dont understand people. "Someone I respect was being labeled anti-Semitic, therefore it is always wrong to label anyone anti-Semitic and I wont examine the actual claims of anti-Semitism here because its obviously wrong." Claiming that Syria is under attack because the Rothschild family of bankers want the Syrian bank to become 'owned by them' instead of 'owned by the Syrian state' is an anti-Semitic trope and has been one for a hundred years or so. For example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rothschilds_(film).
I actually agree with you, if you focus on the fact that its a "Rothchilds" owned central bank, howvever, if you look at from purely a banking perspective it is still relevant.
To what degree the Rothchilds are involved in central banking I have no idea.
But currencies and the IMF are big deals and they help maintain a US dollar domination of the worlds financial system. That is a very big deal. Petrodollars are a big deal and something that the beneficiaries would surely fight for.
Perhaps when she talks about the Rothchilds I dismiss it too quickly and you focus on it too much. I though she made 8 strong points, but perhaps you are not wrong in saying the first could be construed as anti-semitic. I didn't immediately see it that way, but I could see how someone would.
What did you think of her other 7 points?
The 7 other points are all out of the same anti-Semitic conspiracy theory, if she doesn't think it's the Jews she's a useful idiot for anti-Semites, if she does, she's an anti-Semite herself.
Sounds like a wonderful PRISM from which to view the world.
On August 28 2013 13:09 Sub40APM wrote: [quote]There is no reason to bring in anti-Semitic conspiracy theories into this. Unless you were posting this as an example of propaganda -- and of a hot girl.
Wow, so there are still people who accuse everyone who critizises Israel and their controversial policies of being anti-Semitic.
No. But there are people who recognize that the claim 'Syria is being attacked because its central bank is state owned and not owned by the Jew Rothschild scum" is anti-Semitic.
'jew scum' would be the anti-semitic part of that sentence, which you injected on your own. the mind reels.
No, the whole of it is anti-Semitic, and if you don't understand why, then you don't know enough about the origin and evolution of "NWO" "central bank" conspiracy theories, probably because you have not had enough exposure to the people who advocate such theories. Lucky you.
What they mean when they say "NWO" is "Jews." What they mean when they say "central banks" is "Jews." What they mean when they rant about fiat currency or fractional reserve banking is "Jewish usurers."
The mind does reel when people act like taking the prime anti-Semitic conspiracy theory of the last 200 years and replacing the word "Jews" with "NWO" means that it is no longer anti-Semitic. You're being taken for a ride nunez, how can you not notice the swastika hood ornament?
dsousa Sorry for being sarcastic, but this is a perfect example of how the story gets tilted. Every counter point can be dismissed as lack of proof, or questionable source, etc..... but when NATO says something they get the benefit of the doubt from the public despite having a serious credibility problem in recent history (NSA, Iraq, etc).
What world do you live in? Have you even read any of this thread at all? Around half the posters here dismiss anything anti-Assad because it's "US" or "UK" or "Israeli" and obviously lies because imperialism blah blah blah, while propaganda coming out of the Kremlin basement is linked as if it were holy writ.
That kind of logic is terrible. So no-one is allowed to engage in this kind of conspiracy theorizing without being anti-semitic? To be honest i usually completely ignore most allegations of anti-semitism because i have seen it used so recklessly so many times that the whole thing is now just a total joke. Joseph Campbell, the world renowned mythologist, was subject to these allegations of anti-semitism because some jews didn't like him saying that their God was a myth. These allegations were delivered through the medium of newspaper articles all over the world. I'm not anti-semitic, but anyone who levels that accusation without real proof and personal experience is total dick.
In other words, its an easy, lazy way to dismiss something without having to have a brain cell to be able to do it properly.
EDIT: obviously allegations of anti-semitism aren't always this kind of lazy thinking, but when applied to huge groups of people and whole ways of thinking then they usually are.
I sometimes dont understand people. "Someone I respect was being labeled anti-Semitic, therefore it is always wrong to label anyone anti-Semitic and I wont examine the actual claims of anti-Semitism here because its obviously wrong." Claiming that Syria is under attack because the Rothschild family of bankers want the Syrian bank to become 'owned by them' instead of 'owned by the Syrian state' is an anti-Semitic trope and has been one for a hundred years or so. For example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rothschilds_(film).
I actually agree with you, if you focus on the fact that its a "Rothchilds" owned central bank, howvever, if you look at from purely a banking perspective it is still relevant.
To what degree the Rothchilds are involved in central banking I have no idea.
But currencies and the IMF are big deals and they help maintain a US dollar domination of the worlds financial system. That is a very big deal. Petrodollars are a big deal and something that the beneficiaries would surely fight for.
Perhaps when she talks about the Rothchilds I dismiss it too quickly and you focus on it too much. I though she made 8 strong points, but perhaps you are not wrong in saying the first could be construed as anti-semitic. I didn't immediately see it that way, but I could see how someone would.
What did you think of her other 7 points?
The 7 other points are all out of the same anti-Semitic conspiracy theory, if she doesn't think it's the Jews she's a useful idiot for anti-Semites, if she does, she's an anti-Semite herself.
Sounds like a wonderful PRISM from which to view the world.
Well if you have anything like actual facts to back you up, let us know please.
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