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Please guys, stay on topic.

This thread is about the situation in Iraq and Syria.
ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
August 21 2013 06:18 GMT
#1241
UPDATE:
213 people die in nerve gas attack by Assad forces in Damascus, Syrian activists and medical source say - @Reuters

Yes im
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 06:22:56
August 21 2013 06:22 GMT
#1242
nvm
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
August 21 2013 07:48 GMT
#1243
The death toll climbs to 635, source.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 07:55:52
August 21 2013 07:54 GMT
#1244
I don't understand why would Assad's forces use chemical weapons when the only way they can lose the war is if US/UN get involved.Also the timing with UN chemical weapons team being in the country. Makes no sense. Someone trying to frame Assad?
ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 07:56:11
August 21 2013 07:55 GMT
#1245
So basically the US tries to frame Assad for using chemical weapons? Would not surprise me to see the US hit major cities with chemical weaponry and then blame it on Assad.

On August 21 2013 16:54 zezamer wrote:
I don't understand why would Assad's forces use chemical weapons when the only way they can lose the war is if US/UN get involved.Also the timing with UN chemical weapons team being in the country. Makes no sense.



This is so spot-on ^



User was temp banned for this post.
"In the name of Holy Terra I challenge, Take up arms, for the Emperor’s Justice falls on you!"
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
August 21 2013 08:01 GMT
#1246
You guys are conspiracy theory touting loonies.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
deichkind
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden347 Posts
August 21 2013 08:11 GMT
#1247
On August 21 2013 17:01 Ghanburighan wrote:
You guys are conspiracy theory touting loonies.


what has it been? 1 day since CIA admitted staging the coup in Iran to put the shah back in power and overthrow the elected offical? if you said that before you were also a "conspiracy theory touting loony".
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
August 21 2013 08:29 GMT
#1248
On August 21 2013 03:23 imperator-xy wrote:
Large quantity of cannabis destroyed when Mujahideen liberated an area controlled by Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) militias.


Okay, now they crossed my red line.


consider my support withdrawn. barbarians!
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 08:29:56
August 21 2013 08:29 GMT
#1249
It's sad how liberal and incorrectly people throw around the term 'conspiracy theorist', when most of the time it's deducing possibilities from circumstantial evidence/facts.

I also am scratching my head at not only the timing of these chemical based attacks, but its purpose(other than the obvious).
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5748 Posts
August 21 2013 09:48 GMT
#1250
On August 21 2013 17:01 Ghanburighan wrote:
You guys are conspiracy theory touting loonies.


Because, clearly, the enemies of Syria and Iran didn't use false flag operations, assasinations, coup d'etats and terrorism to achieve their goals, right?

The situation is really fishy. I have serious doubts that Assad is behind this. He's not some irrational North Korean leader.
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
August 21 2013 09:51 GMT
#1251
Conspiracy theorists? Please, saying that Assad is being "framed" is down right stupid.

The chemical attacks have been going on for several months:

Source
FYI this is probably the most important french daily newspaper.

There is no other reason than Assad was loosing ground against the rebels and used all the weapons he had at his disposals, knowing that the international community would never have the balls to go up against Russia.



Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 09:55:04
August 21 2013 09:54 GMT
#1252
On August 21 2013 18:48 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 17:01 Ghanburighan wrote:
You guys are conspiracy theory touting loonies.


Because, clearly, the enemies of Syria and Iran didn't use false flag operations, assasinations, coup d'etats and terrorism to achieve their goals, right?

The situation is really fishy. I have serious doubts that Assad is behind this. He's not some irrational North Korean leader.


Have you even seen what's been going on???? Not as irrational??? The guy is a fuckin barbarian, and probably didn't even blink when he asked the military police to kidnap, toture or the regular army to shoot civilians, while his spolied wife goes out to shop gucci all fuckin' day.

Really guys, being suspicious of the info. we get through regular media is one thing, but you're being downright stupid here.

Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2709 Posts
August 21 2013 09:59 GMT
#1253
I'm with the suspicious crowd actually.
Assad has been making a lot of headway recently and wasn't the last "chemical attack" also really fishy?

Why the hell start now when your winning? It makes no sense, if you really want to kill a lot of people you have air superiority and cluster bombs.
He's a brute but he's not a stupid brute. But Russia will likely call the UN on it if they try to act.
waaaaaaaaaaaooooow - Felicia, SPF2:T
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 10:03:59
August 21 2013 10:03 GMT
#1254
On August 21 2013 18:59 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
[...]
Why the hell start now when your winning?
[...]



As I wrote a little higher, the chemical weapons usage has been going on since the end of May (probably before), which was before Chiite help from Iran and Lebanon really came into the play and the rebellion was actually gaining ground.

Syria let UN inspectors in only now because they probably consider that there is no chance left of the insurrection of actually prevailing.
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
cem61
Profile Joined April 2013
Turkey18 Posts
August 21 2013 10:08 GMT
#1255
On August 21 2013 18:59 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
I'm with the suspicious crowd actually.
Assad has been making a lot of headway recently and wasn't the last "chemical attack" also really fishy?

Why the hell start now when your winning? It makes no sense, if you really want to kill a lot of people you have air superiority and cluster bombs.
He's a brute but he's not a stupid brute. But Russia will likely call the UN on it if they try to act.

I dont know why you think Assad was winning.He lost an important airport in Aleppo 2 weeks ago.
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
August 21 2013 10:11 GMT
#1256
On August 21 2013 19:08 cem61 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 18:59 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
I'm with the suspicious crowd actually.
Assad has been making a lot of headway recently and wasn't the last "chemical attack" also really fishy?

Why the hell start now when your winning? It makes no sense, if you really want to kill a lot of people you have air superiority and cluster bombs.
He's a brute but he's not a stupid brute. But Russia will likely call the UN on it if they try to act.

I dont know why you think Assad was winning.He lost an important airport in Aleppo 2 weeks ago.



Sadly, the help of Iran/Hezbollah has really hurt the Syrian Free Army... I'm pretty afraid that Asssad letting UN in is a sign of The insurrection being definitivily stopped.
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5748 Posts
August 21 2013 10:12 GMT
#1257
On August 21 2013 18:54 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 18:48 maybenexttime wrote:
On August 21 2013 17:01 Ghanburighan wrote:
You guys are conspiracy theory touting loonies.


Because, clearly, the enemies of Syria and Iran didn't use false flag operations, assasinations, coup d'etats and terrorism to achieve their goals, right?

The situation is really fishy. I have serious doubts that Assad is behind this. He's not some irrational North Korean leader.


Have you even seen what's been going on???? Not as irrational??? The guy is a fuckin barbarian, and probably didn't even blink when he asked the military police to kidnap, toture or the regular army to shoot civilians, while his spolied wife goes out to shop gucci all fuckin' day.

Really guys, being suspicious of the info. we get through regular media is one thing, but you're being downright stupid here.



Media are portraying it that way. The same media that lied about various American/Israeli operations or constantly misquoted Iran's president, and so on. I really doubt Assad is targeting actual civilians here. Foreign mercenary insurgents are not civilians, even if they're posing as such.

And if anyone is a barbarian here, it's the terrorist rebels that eat corpse of their enemies...
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 10:18:41
August 21 2013 10:17 GMT
#1258
On August 21 2013 19:12 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 18:54 Douillos wrote:
On August 21 2013 18:48 maybenexttime wrote:
On August 21 2013 17:01 Ghanburighan wrote:
You guys are conspiracy theory touting loonies.


Because, clearly, the enemies of Syria and Iran didn't use false flag operations, assasinations, coup d'etats and terrorism to achieve their goals, right?

The situation is really fishy. I have serious doubts that Assad is behind this. He's not some irrational North Korean leader.


Have you even seen what's been going on???? Not as irrational??? The guy is a fuckin barbarian, and probably didn't even blink when he asked the military police to kidnap, toture or the regular army to shoot civilians, while his spolied wife goes out to shop gucci all fuckin' day.

Really guys, being suspicious of the info. we get through regular media is one thing, but you're being downright stupid here.



Media are portraying it that way. The same media that lied about various American/Israeli operations or constantly misquoted Iran's president, and so on. I really doubt Assad is targeting actual civilians here. Foreign mercenary insurgents are not civilians, even if they're posing as such.

And if anyone is a barbarian here, it's the terrorist rebels that eat corpse of their enemies...


Hahaha You sound like Assad's Propaganda manager! Mind if I call you Goebels from now on? It'll suit your perfectly.

Cut the crap man, stories of the political prisons of Assad's Regime have been around for years. Why the fuck did the revolution start in the first place?

Please, just 'cause your learnt where Syria is a month ago, doesn't mean you should participate in discussions about the real world.


Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5748 Posts
August 21 2013 10:28 GMT
#1259
On August 21 2013 19:17 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 19:12 maybenexttime wrote:
On August 21 2013 18:54 Douillos wrote:
On August 21 2013 18:48 maybenexttime wrote:
On August 21 2013 17:01 Ghanburighan wrote:
You guys are conspiracy theory touting loonies.


Because, clearly, the enemies of Syria and Iran didn't use false flag operations, assasinations, coup d'etats and terrorism to achieve their goals, right?

The situation is really fishy. I have serious doubts that Assad is behind this. He's not some irrational North Korean leader.


Have you even seen what's been going on???? Not as irrational??? The guy is a fuckin barbarian, and probably didn't even blink when he asked the military police to kidnap, toture or the regular army to shoot civilians, while his spolied wife goes out to shop gucci all fuckin' day.

Really guys, being suspicious of the info. we get through regular media is one thing, but you're being downright stupid here.



Media are portraying it that way. The same media that lied about various American/Israeli operations or constantly misquoted Iran's president, and so on. I really doubt Assad is targeting actual civilians here. Foreign mercenary insurgents are not civilians, even if they're posing as such.

And if anyone is a barbarian here, it's the terrorist rebels that eat corpse of their enemies...


Hahaha You sound like Assad's Propaganda manager! Mind if I call you Goebels from now on? It'll suit your perfectly.

Cut the crap man, stories of the political prisons of Assad's Regime have been around for years. Why the fuck did the revolution start in the first place?

Please, just 'cause your learnt where Syria is a month ago, doesn't mean you should participate in discussions about the real world.




And you sound like a useful idiot brainwashed by pro-American media. Revolution? What revolution? It's an insurgency carried out, for the most part, by non-Syrian mercenaries, and sponsored by the USA-Israel coalition, which wants to destabilize Syria in order to have an easier time invading Iran.

And since there's no bottom-up revolution in the first place, I disregard its proclaimed motives.
cem61
Profile Joined April 2013
Turkey18 Posts
August 21 2013 10:32 GMT
#1260
On August 21 2013 19:28 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 19:17 Douillos wrote:
On August 21 2013 19:12 maybenexttime wrote:
On August 21 2013 18:54 Douillos wrote:
On August 21 2013 18:48 maybenexttime wrote:
On August 21 2013 17:01 Ghanburighan wrote:
You guys are conspiracy theory touting loonies.


Because, clearly, the enemies of Syria and Iran didn't use false flag operations, assasinations, coup d'etats and terrorism to achieve their goals, right?

The situation is really fishy. I have serious doubts that Assad is behind this. He's not some irrational North Korean leader.


Have you even seen what's been going on???? Not as irrational??? The guy is a fuckin barbarian, and probably didn't even blink when he asked the military police to kidnap, toture or the regular army to shoot civilians, while his spolied wife goes out to shop gucci all fuckin' day.

Really guys, being suspicious of the info. we get through regular media is one thing, but you're being downright stupid here.



Media are portraying it that way. The same media that lied about various American/Israeli operations or constantly misquoted Iran's president, and so on. I really doubt Assad is targeting actual civilians here. Foreign mercenary insurgents are not civilians, even if they're posing as such.

And if anyone is a barbarian here, it's the terrorist rebels that eat corpse of their enemies...


Hahaha You sound like Assad's Propaganda manager! Mind if I call you Goebels from now on? It'll suit your perfectly.

Cut the crap man, stories of the political prisons of Assad's Regime have been around for years. Why the fuck did the revolution start in the first place?

Please, just 'cause your learnt where Syria is a month ago, doesn't mean you should participate in discussions about the real world.




And you sound like a useful idiot brainwashed by pro-American media. Revolution? What revolution? It's an insurgency carried out, for the most part, by non-Syrian mercenaries, and sponsored by the USA-Israel coalition, which wants to destabilize Syria in order to have an easier time invading Iran.

And since there's no bottom-up revolution in the first place, I disregard its proclaimed motives.

Thats so wrong a lot of turkish live reporters who was in syria are saying that there is no support from Usa and Europe or Israel.You are brainwashed having no idea still thinking the West is supporting the rebells thats just a lie,why else Usa didnt attack Usa syria or you think they need realy a reason to attack.
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