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mindspike
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1902 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-09-24 16:28:08
September 24 2004 16:26 GMT
#1
heh funny rip at all the no manner newbies out there

http://www.wcreplays.com/articles.php?get=174

also he says bw>wc3 which should make u guys happy
zerg/human - vancouver, canada
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 24 2004 16:31 GMT
#2
I follow WC more than I do SC/BW now (yes, I know it's probably not a good idea to admit that here on this forum, but hey --)

For all that MaDFroG has accomplished, he says to the public that he is good. "I am a great player, and with all the time I spent on this game it would be a shame if I wasn't." And from that one statement spawns a number of retorts calling FroG "arrogant" and "no manners". Is it really that bad when a player admits to everyone that, "hey, I'm as good as all my fans claim I am."?
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-09-24 17:12:52
September 24 2004 16:33 GMT
#3
That's in response to this:
http://www.wcreplays.com/articles.php?get=173

and SkNuke responded to both of those articles with this: http://www.wcreplays.com/articles.php?get=175
AUSSIESCUM
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Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
September 24 2004 16:37 GMT
#4
Hahaha yeah those were funny. RaGe once again trying to sound smart and be an attentionwhore, but as usual he gets verbally raped.

On a sidenote; don't you just love the way SK.NuKe handles his players in public time after time after time.

And about WC3 dying, I doubt it. The game has its ups and downs, now it is just experiencing a down with both Dsky and aT going down.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 24 2004 16:40 GMT
#5
With both DSky and aT gone, there are a few good European WC players just floating around. It'll be interesting to see which teams pick up which players. Too bad some players like aT-InToX have lost the desire to play anymore.
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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
September 24 2004 17:00 GMT
#6
Rage is a fucking idiot.

Gg.
why so 진지해?
MaTRiX[SiN]
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden1282 Posts
September 24 2004 17:14 GMT
#7
lmao even the wc3 players admits that its a bad game ^^
aka StormtoSS
Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
September 24 2004 17:37 GMT
#8
the game is not bad ... it's just different from broodwar and that's what you don't get.
MaTRiX[SiN]
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden1282 Posts
September 24 2004 17:42 GMT
#9
yes it is bad and its different in a way that makes it worse yes...i understand perfectly
aka StormtoSS
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
September 24 2004 17:59 GMT
#10
MadFrog says the real problem with War3. The game just isnt balanced.And will never be with all this new heroes they add. The balance is the main thing in a RTS game. I really dont think that war3 is dying though.
DaZe
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden2111 Posts
September 24 2004 18:02 GMT
#11
gg
chicken`
Profile Joined January 2004
Germany3478 Posts
September 24 2004 18:04 GMT
#12
On September 25 2004 01:31 NeoIllusions wrote:
I follow WC more than I do SC/BW now (yes, I know it's probably not a good idea to admit that here on this forum, but hey --)



i fuckin hate you !!!!

:D
jeremy clarkson = god
TvP On Guillo
Profile Joined April 2004
Denmark646 Posts
September 24 2004 18:29 GMT
#13
I don't know why he even responded to that mail/article. He must be getting alot of hatemail, what makes statements like "These top players are just a bunch of ungrateful nerds who take everything they have for granted." worthy of a serious response, is a mystery to me.
Deeply earnest and thoughtful people stand on shaky footing with the public - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Beast_Bg
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria1623 Posts
September 24 2004 18:47 GMT
#14
My new quote ! ;D
MadFrog : In my opinion, the biggest reason why WC3 is dying is because it is not such a great game as Brood War is.
Ziggy(TE)
Profile Joined June 2004
Norway115 Posts
September 24 2004 20:10 GMT
#15
If he doesn't care about the money so much, and he's all mannered. How come shut down his computer when he was losing versus Dayfly at WCG? For those who didn't know, he won the two next matches versus dayfly. Madfrog came #2 and Heman #1, in a tournement where Dayfly was favored.

I heard that koreans were pretty pissed off after this.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
September 24 2004 20:19 GMT
#16
So that's 1-2 for madfrog? I mean, that shutdown thing, counted as a loss right?
Ziggy(TE)
Profile Joined June 2004
Norway115 Posts
September 24 2004 21:01 GMT
#17
No, Dayfly was leading 1-0, then in the second match, Dayfly had the upper hand. Madfrog saw he was losing( bc, he's experienced) and shut down his computer, he demanded a rematch. With alot of people behind his back Dayfly had to rematch him. making it a 1-2 instead of 2-0. Tillerman wrote a long report on this I remember.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
September 24 2004 21:07 GMT
#18
Oh I think I remember that, madfrog should've been disqualified, and banned from every future wc3 tournament. That was soooooooo fucking pathetic. ( IF he did it on purpose)

I haven't seen the rep of that or something... but how much of an advantage did Dayfly have? And who was the referee who ruled in madfrog's favor?
Ziggy(TE)
Profile Joined June 2004
Norway115 Posts
September 24 2004 21:11 GMT
#19
They didn't rule in his favor, they ruled a rematch. Since there was no rules concerning this sort of problems, something Madfrog probably knew. From what I remember it was a long game, no one had any gold left, so the man with the best heros would win, and Dayfly had better heros.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
September 24 2004 21:14 GMT
#20
So what did madfrog do ? Just pull out the cable or what? No1 saw it or something?
Gp.Lao
Profile Joined April 2004
Belgium445 Posts
September 24 2004 21:19 GMT
#21
hahaha hilarious, yet sad
aka sunsHine
niklasTHEfro
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden419 Posts
September 24 2004 21:26 GMT
#22
rage uses the word communist like it's a random insult
moron
Make7UpYours
Profile Joined October 2003
893 Posts
September 24 2004 21:30 GMT
#23
On September 25 2004 06:14 Frits wrote:
So what did madfrog do ? Just pull out the cable or what? No1 saw it or something?


He kicked the cable underneath the computer so no, no one would have seen it.
niklasTHEfro
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden419 Posts
September 24 2004 21:31 GMT
#24
On September 25 2004 06:01 Ziggy(TE) wrote:
No, Dayfly was leading 1-0, then in the second match, Dayfly had the upper hand. Madfrog saw he was losing( bc, he's experienced) and shut down his computer, he demanded a rematch. With alot of people behind his back Dayfly had to rematch him. making it a 1-2 instead of 2-0. Tillerman wrote a long report on this I remember.


"he shut down his computer"
what the fuck do you know about that? nothing, so i think you should shut up
dont answer
Make7UpYours
Profile Joined October 2003
893 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-09-24 22:07:52
September 24 2004 21:33 GMT
#25
EDIT: St3mor's telling is more accurate.
SpuniasauR
Profile Joined September 2003
Australia1500 Posts
September 24 2004 21:58 GMT
#26
i honestly think alot of the warcraft players are more immature, i've been following warcraft scene for a while, and they are on the whole younger, and because of that they tend to bitch about alot from what i've seen.

I think rage has something to what he said, but on the other hand they just need to be patient, im not sure IF warcraft will die, but im willing to swap over to dawn of war if its multiplayer is as long-lasting as i hope
A firebat to your Zergling.
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
September 24 2004 22:03 GMT
#27
I'll try to explain what i remember from that game (I was obsing in a TV outside of the event (eswc 2003)):

it was roc game in Gnoll Wood i think dayfly spawned at 8 and frog at 5. dayfly opened with farseer and a barrack to tier2 and merc strategy while frog went the usual dk + go-to-tier3 etc etc.

after a long game in was like main goldmines depleted and dayfly had 2 great halls and was taking gold while madfrog was not taking any gold, heroes were something like fs6(or5)+tc(4-5)+blademaster(1-2) vs frogs dk(lvl 6 or 7) and lvl5 lich.

frog had only a few buildings left in his main base and started a necropolis at 2 but the problem is that he could not really leave his buildings because thoy would easily have been destroyed with no units (only few mercs dayfly) and no gold income by madfrog, i really think it was only a matter of time, frog could not leave his buildings and dayfly could just massed potions or rebuild a bit and send non-stop shit to destroy frogs buildings.

i may be a little wrong but that's what i remember, i don't know if he did it on purpose or not, hard decision for the admins, but well, shit happens.
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
Make7UpYours
Profile Joined October 2003
893 Posts
September 24 2004 22:06 GMT
#28
Wow, my version is way off :/
wtfwjd
Profile Joined April 2004
United States226 Posts
September 24 2004 22:28 GMT
#29
they put the goddamn power strip under the table. It was very obvious that all he did was step on it. Thats happened to me so many times that I can understand this to be a probable accident.
The magnitude of your illegitimate rise will parallel that of your fall
iLoveLulu
Profile Joined August 2004
Venezuela457 Posts
September 24 2004 22:53 GMT
#30
On September 25 2004 03:04 chicken` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2004 01:31 NeoIllusions wrote:
I follow WC more than I do SC/BW now (yes, I know it's probably not a good idea to admit that here on this forum, but hey --)



i fuckin hate you !!!!

:D
{

I fucking hate him too !!
Go to: Op NoLT, Op ToT) All in Europe ;D!
iLoveLulu
Profile Joined August 2004
Venezuela457 Posts
September 24 2004 23:12 GMT
#31
Erverybody that plays war3, says that BW > War3 ^^:D
Go to: Op NoLT, Op ToT) All in Europe ;D!
Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
September 24 2004 23:33 GMT
#32
rage's letter makes him look like an idiot.

i don't know anything about madfrog/nuke though
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Bobo_XIII
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States429 Posts
September 24 2004 23:44 GMT
#33
On September 25 2004 06:58 SpuniasauR wrote:
i honestly think alot of the warcraft players are more immature, i've been following warcraft scene for a while, and they are on the whole younger, and because of that they tend to bitch about alot from what i've seen.

I think rage has something to what he said, but on the other hand they just need to be patient, im not sure IF warcraft will die, but im willing to swap over to dawn of war if its multiplayer is as long-lasting as i hope


Yep, it's like a virtual middle school on War3 bnet. So much bickering, arguing, flaming, etc... I've gone through all that shit years back, and don't want to go back to it, either. It's amazing at how long people will hold grudges over others over a damn internet game.

The community is one of the main reasons why I'm coming back to the BW scene (the other half is the insane repetitiveness that War3 is)
There's a hole in the world like a great black pit, and the vermin of the world inhabit it... and its morals aren't worth what a pig could spit, and it goes by the name of Reddit.
Ziggy(TE)
Profile Joined June 2004
Norway115 Posts
September 24 2004 23:45 GMT
#34
Maybe he didn't shut it down. But hey! Madfrog was losing, and I think he knew that very well deep inside, why didn't he give Dayfly the victory?
Bobo_XIII
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States429 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-09-25 00:13:02
September 24 2004 23:52 GMT
#35
4k.Grubby made a series of comments about the Madfrog-Dayfly incident.

http://www.wcreplays.com/articles.php?get=133

Scroll down to a little bit past the halfway mark (Grub posts under the name IQ -55). Don't read the other comments, they rot your brain
There's a hole in the world like a great black pit, and the vermin of the world inhabit it... and its morals aren't worth what a pig could spit, and it goes by the name of Reddit.
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-09-25 00:01:04
September 24 2004 23:59 GMT
#36
Madfrog has probably invested countless hours into warcraft, had he worked a normal job he would of made alot more money and received a lot less stress for his effort. Madfrog owes nothing to no one. He has a right to demand money and if he does not get it he has the right to tell his "team" to fuck off.

People who think that he should be eternally grateful for being succesful are so fucking diluted in their thinking. He worked hard for being the level that he is at. He sacrificed years of his life to achieve what he did.
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
September 25 2004 00:31 GMT
#37
If madfrog intentionally kicked the cord then he wouldn't be as famous right now. Because he won that semi final vs DayFly, he was ensured top 2, and later OGN made statement that top 2 from eswc was invited to Korea to play in their league. Then Madfrog gets so many hours of quality practice (i don't think anyone can argue that being able to practice like that in Korea won't make you extremely better) and becomes a star. Maybe Madfrog has skill, but his international fame was due to the comp shutdown incident (whether it was intentional or not).

Anyway.. most top american players agree this game is dying. And a lot of people are quitting too, Aether, aT-LwL (so aT die T_T), before dayfly...even I quit this game i've trained 2 hard years on because blizzard has this game no where near balance after about 15 patches.
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
September 25 2004 00:42 GMT
#38
btw whos rage?
troi oi thang map nai!!!
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
September 25 2004 00:46 GMT
#39
On September 25 2004 09:42 Dangster wrote:
btw whos rage?


American with the IQ of -30 that got kicked as squadmanager from [pG] because he's a racist idiot. Somewhere along the lines he got dropped as a baby.
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Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
September 25 2004 01:02 GMT
#40
On September 25 2004 06:58 SpuniasauR wrote:
i honestly think alot of the warcraft players are more immature, i've been following warcraft scene for a while, and they are on the whole younger, and because of that they tend to bitch about alot from what i've seen.

I think rage has something to what he said, but on the other hand they just need to be patient, im not sure IF warcraft will die, but im willing to swap over to dawn of war if its multiplayer is as long-lasting as i hope
You are probably right. I remember back in vanilla WC3 when my friend beat some 15yearold that was ranked #1 on the gamingeye ladder. The kid freaked out screaming "smurf!!!" and "hacker!!!" ect and bitched as much as he could. And he's faar from alone. WC3 manner level is like WGT or even worse.
I have the best fucking lawyers in the country including the man they call the Malmis.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
September 25 2004 01:14 GMT
#41
Reading about so much wc3 stuff makes me want to play wc3!
Never Knows Best.
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5446 Posts
September 25 2004 01:51 GMT
#42
i wouldn't say war3 is dying, i logged on the other day to see the most players i had ever seen playing war3, which was only like 60 000 but that's still a lot more than say about half-full year ago
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
September 25 2004 01:56 GMT
#43
On September 25 2004 10:51 SoleSteeler wrote:
i wouldn't say war3 is dying, i logged on the other day to see the most players i had ever seen playing war3, which was only like 60 000 but that's still a lot more than say about half-full year ago


We're talking about "pro-scene" and related stuff though, not about masses.
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likeboxer
Profile Joined December 2003
Korea (South)465 Posts
September 25 2004 04:04 GMT
#44
On September 25 2004 05:10 Ziggy(TE) wrote:
If he doesn't care about the money so much, and he's all mannered. How come shut down his computer when he was losing versus Dayfly at WCG? For those who didn't know, he won the two next matches versus dayfly. Madfrog came #2 and Heman #1, in a tournement where Dayfly was favored.

I heard that koreans were pretty pissed off after this.


yeah, all korean w3 fans were pissed off. but after he came in korea all the people liked madfrog cause he's the top w3 gamer and first foreign gamer in korean w3 scene.
and he showed some amazing games. btw it was quite scary to see a talented gamer growing really fast in progaming world.
too bad he couldn't adapt to korea.:[
oh and w3 is dying in korea too.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 25 2004 04:58 GMT
#45
On September 25 2004 07:53 iLoveLulu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2004 03:04 chicken` wrote:
On September 25 2004 01:31 NeoIllusions wrote:
I follow WC more than I do SC/BW now (yes, I know it's probably not a good idea to admit that here on this forum, but hey --)



i fuckin hate you !!!!

:D
{

I fucking hate him too !!


Haha. I'll say that BW is a better game than WC. I just lack the time to be good in BW. The rate I improve in WC is faster than that in BW. Better I get -> more wins per game -> more enjoyment I get from the game. I don't see how people can argue with that. ^^
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Tossim1
Profile Joined June 2004
714 Posts
September 25 2004 05:20 GMT
#46
good, rage is a fucking moron shitface loser anyway
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
September 25 2004 05:40 GMT
#47
Haha... rage...

Even though I don't like WC3, the fact that people think it is dying saddens me. And this is the first time hearing about the whole powercord incident. Haha... that's actually quite amusing for something like that to happen.
LetMeBeWithYou
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada4254 Posts
September 25 2004 06:11 GMT
#48
You are telling me I am not special, well I've got news for you - I am

hahahahah
All Those beneath an angry star
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
September 25 2004 06:20 GMT
#49
Oh my god, that rocks :D
River me timbers.
SpiriT-DemoN-
Profile Joined January 2003
United States684 Posts
September 25 2004 07:11 GMT
#50
On September 25 2004 15:20 Muhweli wrote:
Oh my god, that rocks :D


I'll 2nd that
An eye for an eye only makes the whole world blind - Gandhi
KiLLme1st
Profile Joined December 2003
United States1824 Posts
September 25 2004 07:33 GMT
#51
RaGe just continously proves how ridiculously retarded he is. I don't see how someone can continue to make a fool out of themselves and not realize how fucking stupid they are.
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Tossim1
Profile Joined June 2004
714 Posts
September 25 2004 07:36 GMT
#52
well
he is fucking stupid
therefore
he is unable to realize that he is fucking stupid
Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
September 25 2004 07:47 GMT
#53
The first guy who mentioned the power cord incident had no idea what he's talking about, he didn't even have the event right.

St3mor (too lazy to scroll up, sorry if I spelled your name wrong), and Panorama posted pretty much all you need to know.
We cant give up just because things arent the way we want them to be.
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