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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8978 Posts
January 29 2022 02:03 GMT
#4241
On January 29 2022 10:36 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2022 01:46 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
All I see with Radian is the space industry version of Nikola motors. I tried to picture it taking off and landing and...didn't work. Design looks cool.

sorry for missing this the first time.

I can see this working kinda. A reuseable jet powered craft flying remotely I could see being easier to land with a runway that you can make to spec. The run times on modern jets are measured in the ten thousands of hours. Making a craft that doesn't have to survive such a sharp angle to leave the earth. China uses a russian plane I think to launch satellites. and that claims a lot more space and weight then a falcon heavy, not to mention that they're developing an even bigger one.

who knows tho I'm sure the russian super designs had a lot of issues that took decades to figure out. I doubt that making one from scratch will work.

I don't think it's never been done from a lack of trying. I just think when they get down to it, it's just not feasible. You're talking about a massive plane. That will take how long to reach the stratosphere? It's just going to be coasting on an incline burn and then what? At least with the rockets it's more or less straight up and out. I'm more interested in the quiet Sonic aircraft NASA is developing. That seems to have a lot more practical application.

Same reason I don't see the SpaceX Starship being used for point to point travel as many would hope. It would look dope, but I can't see it being more fuel efficient than an airplane (and those are getting closer to green technology everyday).
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 29 2022 15:53 GMT
#4242
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13883 Posts
January 29 2022 23:11 GMT
#4243
On January 29 2022 11:03 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2022 10:36 Sermokala wrote:
On January 20 2022 01:46 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
All I see with Radian is the space industry version of Nikola motors. I tried to picture it taking off and landing and...didn't work. Design looks cool.

sorry for missing this the first time.

I can see this working kinda. A reuseable jet powered craft flying remotely I could see being easier to land with a runway that you can make to spec. The run times on modern jets are measured in the ten thousands of hours. Making a craft that doesn't have to survive such a sharp angle to leave the earth. China uses a russian plane I think to launch satellites. and that claims a lot more space and weight then a falcon heavy, not to mention that they're developing an even bigger one.

who knows tho I'm sure the russian super designs had a lot of issues that took decades to figure out. I doubt that making one from scratch will work.

I don't think it's never been done from a lack of trying. I just think when they get down to it, it's just not feasible. You're talking about a massive plane. That will take how long to reach the stratosphere? It's just going to be coasting on an incline burn and then what? At least with the rockets it's more or less straight up and out. I'm more interested in the quiet Sonic aircraft NASA is developing. That seems to have a lot more practical application.

Same reason I don't see the SpaceX Starship being used for point to point travel as many would hope. It would look dope, but I can't see it being more fuel efficient than an airplane (and those are getting closer to green technology everyday).

The idea is that you get the craft as high up in the air as possible before using its rocket boosters. So that you utilize jet thrust for the first stage instead of rocket thrust. The Chinese claim to be able to do it with a much larger payload into the stratosphere and that the craft from there has a much easier time with thinner air to push aside.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 30 2022 02:44 GMT
#4244
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 30 2022 23:38 GMT
#4245
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 31 2022 21:30 GMT
#4246
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 02 2022 21:36 GMT
#4247
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 03 2022 23:43 GMT
#4248
Starship update incoming.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States830 Posts
February 04 2022 01:57 GMT
#4249
https://twitter.com/sciguyspace/status/1489274659367530511?s=21

https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/02/spacexs-falcon-9-rocket-has-set-a-record-for-most-consecutive-successes/

112 consecutive successful Falcon 9 launches. Also, cannot wait for the Starship official update event. I want interior renders, or some proper fuel depot info.
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 04 2022 19:39 GMT
#4250
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 04 2022 23:09 GMT
#4251
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 05 2022 15:39 GMT
#4252
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 05 2022 20:09 GMT
#4253
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-05 21:03:37
February 05 2022 20:23 GMT
#4254


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-06 01:02:53
February 06 2022 01:01 GMT
#4255
Heads up we might see the Chopsticks lift up the top portion of Starship to start stacking, when I don't know.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8978 Posts
February 06 2022 01:04 GMT
#4256
On February 06 2022 10:01 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Heads up we might see the Chopsticks lift up the top portion of Starship to start stacking, when I don't know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

Man. As much as I would love to watch this, I ain't got time for that. I'll catch the highlights lol.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 06 2022 01:26 GMT
#4257
welp, it is a crane instead.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 06 2022 23:22 GMT
#4258
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 07 2022 17:49 GMT
#4259
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 09 2022 01:50 GMT
#4260
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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