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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 16 2017 11:32 GMT
#2601
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8962 Posts
August 16 2017 12:34 GMT
#2602
I need some deep space science news soon. This is getting so routine, it's almost boring. I need some Gundam action or something.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 16 2017 13:26 GMT
#2603
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
August 16 2017 16:06 GMT
#2604
On August 16 2017 21:34 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
I need some deep space science news soon. This is getting so routine, it's almost boring. I need some Gundam action or something.

Then go look for it? There's plenty of news out there for the taking, it's just not SpaceX related. Follow the developments of New Horizons or Curiosity or something. The Parker Solar Probe is coming in the not-too-distant future, that's also exciting. James Webb Telescope is also something. Couple of Moon missions here and there, SLS is coming fairly soon, and so on.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8962 Posts
August 16 2017 18:39 GMT
#2605
That's all we have are moments to wait for. I know where and how to look for them. I'm talking actual video of this stuff happening.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
August 16 2017 18:42 GMT
#2606
Go watch NASA TV if you want video. Spoiler alert, science is 99% tedium; if you don't find the majority of "Deep Space" work interesting then that's on you.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8962 Posts
August 16 2017 18:44 GMT
#2607
On August 17 2017 03:42 LegalLord wrote:
Go watch NASA TV if you want video. Spoiler alert, science is 99% tedium; if you don't find the majority of "Deep Space" work interesting then that's on you.

You know what I mean. But yeah, I check out NASA website every once in a while and come here to get most of the latest updates. I try to roll over to some tech sites (i hate reddit with a burning passion of a 1000 suns).
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
August 16 2017 19:04 GMT
#2608
Honestly what it sounds like you're trying to say is, "I wish there were more cool flashy space videos to watch that are something other than launches." Is that not the case?
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8962 Posts
August 16 2017 22:50 GMT
#2609
Oh far from it. More of the scientific study of how we would attempt deep space from contemporaries that aren't all in astrophysics high language. A video of them explaining it.

Do you remember the "Mars" discovery channel show? Something like that.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-16 23:23:06
August 16 2017 22:55 GMT
#2610
Ah. Well that might be a problem because NASA hasn't been doing too great on that front. Their "documentary" videos are not particularly inspiring.

I'd link a few Roscosmos videos that are more along the lines of what you're looking for but that comes with a language barrier. I'll take a look and see if there is anything that comes with subs.

A few gems on the ESA YouTube page if you're up for some digging.

History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8962 Posts
August 16 2017 23:46 GMT
#2611
Thanks. I think I can find a pretty good rabbit hole to fall into with these.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
August 17 2017 01:28 GMT
#2612
Proton-M launch about three hours ago, completed nominally. Was a military sat, so probably nothing further to report since they tend to keep those launches secret.

Here's to hoping that they fixed the rocket.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
thePunGun
Profile Blog Joined January 2016
598 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-17 01:45:16
August 17 2017 01:44 GMT
#2613
On August 17 2017 07:55 LegalLord wrote:
Ah. Well that might be a problem because NASA hasn't been doing too great on that front. Their "documentary" videos are not particularly inspiring.

I'd link a few Roscosmos videos that are more along the lines of what you're looking for but that comes with a language barrier. I'll take a look and see if there is anything that comes with subs.

A few gems on the ESA YouTube page if you're up for some digging.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ0fP453PnQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amYK5voqLSk

Can't wait for the first moon tourism commercial featuring "the Moon Village People" performing YMMA* available on Mtunes and don't forget to visit their moonsite: mww.ymma.moo


(*Young Men's Moon Association, because let's face it, the moon is bigger than Jesus)
"You cannot teach a man anything, you can only help him find it within himself."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
August 17 2017 03:04 GMT
#2614
Space tourism is strongly limited by the dearth of rich people willing to die when things go wrong on a notoriously finicky piece of technology.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 17 2017 12:19 GMT
#2615


One longtime Torrance defense contractor is shedding almost 100 jobs, while a SpaceX spin-off that could create up to 300 jobs within three years is in talks to move to the South Bay’s largest city, company and municipal officials have confirmed.

Chemring Energetic Devices, which makes missile components, radar detection systems and other defense-related products, has notified the state Employment Development Department as required by law of its plans to lay off 93 of its workers at its Lomita Boulevard plant as manufacturing winds down there by mid-2018.

The company, which purchased Hi-Shear Technology Corp., in 2009 for $132 million, announced two years ago it was consolidating manufacturing operations at its Downers Grove, Illinois, facility for economic and logistical reasons, said company spokesman Rupert Pittman. Hi-Shear had been in business 55 years, according to Chemring’s website.

“The decision to do so was driven by the need to remain competitive in the marketplace, and the significant savings that could be realized by operating out of one site, rather than two,” Pittman said via email. “At the time the announcement was made in August 2015, there were around 110 employees at Torrance. A number of people were offered relocation packages to move to the Downers Grove site, but only a few were willing to make that move.”

The Illinois location also had the capability to handle and store twice as much explosive material as the Torrance plant did because of federal regulations and its close proximity to residential homes, he said.

A clean-up crew will remain at the site until the lease expires in December 2018.

Fran Fulton, Torrance’s economic development manager, said officials knew about the 2015 plant closure announcement and worked to retain the company, but were unsuccessful.

SPACEX STARTUP

However, in a move demonstrating the cyclical nature of the aerospace industry, Fulton said a SpaceX startup she could not name was in discussions to move to Torrance and hire as many as 200 employees within three years. SpaceX is expanding rapidly at its home base in nearby Hawthorne.

Torrance is benefiting from a tighter commercial office market and higher lease costs in cities like El Segundo

“We’re hearing from companies that are looking at El Segundo and they’re not liking the price,” Fulton said. “We’re still a little bit cheaper down here.”

Indeed, a trio of small aerospace companies— including Microcosm Inc., and Scorpius Space Launch Co. — recently relocated to Torrance from Hawthorne, bringing about 25 jobs, Fulton said. They were displaced from a building soon to be occupied by the headquarters of Urth Caffe, which is relocating from smaller quarters in downtown Los Angeles.

Meanwhile, acres of new commercial space is set to open up in Torrance, as Toyota and its thousands of employees begin heading to its new North American headquarters in Texas from its sprawling local campus.

Negotiations with a real estate developer expected to buy the entire 2 million square feet of office space spread across 110 acres are ongoing, Fulton said.

“They’re going to develop a plan for the entire campus to redevelop it,” she said. “It’s not going to be (bought by) one big company.”


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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8962 Posts
August 17 2017 13:40 GMT
#2616
Keep forgetting that I need to get Eclipse glasses. The path of totality is crossing directly over Kansas City, MO and guess where I'm at? Yep. I'm gonna be 7 all over again when I first saw the eclipse in elementary school. I wonder if my phone can take pictures of it, or if it'll be damaged.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
August 17 2017 13:44 GMT
#2617
I highly doubt the picture will come out well. It's something that really just has to be seen.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8962 Posts
August 17 2017 13:49 GMT
#2618
You're probably right. Camera phones suck for far distance photography. I'll give it a shot anyway though. I'll be outside staring at it until it's over. Hopefully my doctor appointment doesn't take all damn day. Completely forgot about it.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 18 2017 22:54 GMT
#2619
Confirming rumors and suspicions that SpaceX is adjusting its plans to begin dispatching robotic landers to Mars, NASA officials said the commercial space company has informed the agency that it has put its Red Dragon program on the back burner.

Under the terms of a Space Act Agreement between NASA and SpaceX, the government agreed to provide navigation and communications services for the Red Dragon mission, which originally aimed to deliver an unpiloted lander to Mars in 2018. SpaceX confirmed earlier this year the launch of the experimental lander on a Falcon Heavy rocket had slipped to 2020.

But Elon Musk, SpaceX’s founder and chief executive, said last month that the company is redesigning its next-generation Dragon capsule, a craft designed to carry astronauts to the International Space Station, to do away with the capability for propulsive, precision helicopter-like landings as originally envisioned. Returning space crews will instead splash down in the ocean under parachutes.

The Red Dragon is a robotic, unoccupied version of the Crew Dragon capsule. The concept publicized by SpaceX called for it to use side-mounted jet packs to slow down in the Martian atmosphere, then brake for a rocket-assisted touchdown.

But with that capability removed from the Crew Dragon, outsiders raised questions about the Red Dragon initiative. Musk has not specifically addressed the future of Red Dragon, and a SpaceX spokesperson did not respond to questions on the matter.

Jim Green, head of NASA’s planetary science division, told Spaceflight Now in an interview that SpaceX has told the agency that it has “put Red Dragon back on the back burner.”

“We’re available to talk to Elon when he’s ready to talk to us … and we’re not pushing him in any way,” Green said. “It’s really up to him. Through the Space Act Agreement, we’d agreed to navigate to Mars, get him to the top of the atmosphere, and then it was up to him to land. That’s a pretty good deal, I think.”

NASA officials said last year that the agency expected to spend about $32 million to support the Red Dragon program over a four-year period. That was expected to be around 10 percent of the total cost of the first Red Dragon mission, one NASA official familiar with the agreement said last year.

The Red Dragons would have delivered cargo and experiments to the Martian surface and tested supersonic retro-propulsion in the planet’s rarefied atmosphere for the first time. NASA engineers say a rocket-braking mechanism like the Dragon’s SuperDraco thrusters is needed to safely land heavy supply ships and crew vehicles on Mars.

The space agency signed up to support the privately-developed Red Dragon project to gather data on supersonic retro-propulsion officials said NASA would be unable to obtain until at least the late 2020s with a government-managed mission.

Musk wrote in a tweet that SpaceX has not abandoned supersonic retro-propulsion at Mars.

“Plan is to do powered landings on Mars for sure, but with a vastly bigger ship,” he tweeted last month after the announcement that SpaceX is abandoning propulsive landings on the Crew Dragon.

Musk said his team at SpaceX is refining how the company could send people to Mars, eventually to settle there. He revealed a Mars transportation architecture in a speech at the 67th International Astronautical Congress in Guadalajara, Mexico, last year, but the outline has since changed.

A vision for gigantic interplanetary transporters Musk presented last year has been downsized, he said.

Musk said he will unveil the changes during a presentation in September at this year’s International Astronautical Congress in Adelaide, Australia.

Launch opportunities from Earth to Mars come every 26 months or so, when the planets are aligned in their orbits around the sun to allow for a direct interplanetary trip.

“What I’ve said is, I’m ready,” Green said. “When they contact us and say, ‘Green, start a solution for going from here to Mars in 20-whatever,’ then I’ll do that.”


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 19 2017 21:40 GMT
#2620
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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