EPTFirefighters let house burn due no fee payment - Page 16
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
Under the current conditions the fire figther acted correctly. You could say the same thing for an executioner (just doing his job). | ||
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GrazerRinge
999 Posts
btw i thought firefighter belongs to government and not run by private corp. | ||
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Crais
Canada2136 Posts
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ghermination
United States2851 Posts
Really, those conservative Christians are just so charitable and live by the words of their own vaunted book. | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9377 Posts
Watching as someone losses his possessions and not lift a finger? are you fucking serious? for 75$?. Way to call yourself a greedy motherfucker. Fuck those firefighters. It seems to me that this is wrong on so many society levels. I mean, he didn't pay the fee, he offered to pay whatever they asked, and yet they stood around and laughed and whatnot. Are you serious? talk about killing humanity with a flawed system. Fuck yeah America! | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4769 Posts
On October 05 2010 23:24 Impervious wrote: You get taxed for that. The guy that had his house burned down doesn't. It is a separate fee, and he did not pay it. Therefore, they didn't provide the service..... Personally, I find this entire situation disgusting. The protection should be mandatory. But, because it isn't, the firefighters did the right thing. I'm a believer that true capitalism screws the individual, and that true socialism ends up being stagnant, so a mix of the two is necessary for society to thrive. This type of situation simply reaffirms that belief, and lets me know that the USA is too capitalist still..... So they do not have taxes in US? I bet they do. And this is exactly that kind of service You would expect is covered in taxes. For me its double paymen, once to governamnt in taxes and once in special fee to private contractor. Someone is getting screwed here (not that its something strange, its in the nature of government to screw people). Still i feel like its better to support the ones screwed by government rather than bashing someone for not paying even when we do not know anything about his situation and reasons behind it. I think anyone supporting this kind of behavior (not helping while You could) should feel ashamed. | ||
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Amestir
Netherlands2126 Posts
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
Fun fact, I'm in Nevada, but my mom was born in Fulton, Ky(fulton ky, and south fulton are on the border, main street divides them). VERY small town now, completely dead since the trains don't come through there anymore, they probably have a tough time keeping that fire department maintained, most of the properties are empty, and people there are generally really old.. most of the young people have moved away | ||
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encorp
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On October 05 2010 23:50 Amestir wrote: Sure they may be legaly right. But moraly its so so wrong. Don't even bother bringing this up, it's a waste of time and a foolhardy argument. Also, I have no problem with the firefighters letting the man's house burn down. Like hey let's not pay until we absolutely need it, sorry but that's not how it works. Why? Because the 75 bucks that you didn't pay means that's 75 bucks less the fire dept. had to work with for other fires. You don't get to leech until you can't anymore. | ||
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Squallcloud
France466 Posts
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sk`
Japan442 Posts
On October 05 2010 22:13 Seam wrote: Then they would be treating the fire as if it was a wild fire, in which case they would put it out; for free, by default. I mean, I'm pretty sure I've seen countless news stories about firefighters battling raging wild fires. I've never seen any news stories about firewatches doing so; thus, my original assessment of their profession stands.I was under the impression it doesn't take a firefighter to open a door and let animals out of a house. They were there incase the person next to him's house caught fire. If they weren't there, and the person next door's house caught fire, when he paid, then it would be an issue. The original information doesn't say anything about neighbors, and since it is a deep rural it is more likely no neighbors would be in immediate threat. The neighbor idea is something people have made up to support their douchbag stance of agreeing with the firewatchers. Either way, I first posted that I was glad I don't live in the states anymore; I'm still very glad. | ||
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
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ArbAttack
Canada198 Posts
Poll: Should the firefighters have let the house burn? Legally no, morally no (17) Legally yes, morally no (9) Legally yes, morally yes (7) Legally no, morally yes (1) Others (0) 34 total votes Your vote: Should the firefighters have let the house burn? (Vote): Legally yes, morally yes | ||
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yarkO
Canada810 Posts
USA! USA! USA! USA! -.-;; For some reason, I don't really see this happening in other parts of the civilized world...... | ||
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NukeTheBunnys
United States1004 Posts
In most places I know of in the US the fire department is covered by local property taxes, but apparently in this area they elected to have lower property taxes at the expense of not having fire protection services. What many people do no realize is there is a LONG history of fire departments like this, hundreds of years. This is how fire departments originally operated. If your house was on fire, and didn't have the right fire department plaque, they would sit out side your house and watch it burn. If the fire started to spread to someone who was covered they would take care of them, but still let the original house burn to the ground. Cities would frequently have multiple fire departments and being covered with one, did not mean it was covered by another. Object on what ever moral grounds you may have, go on thinking that these people are scum for not putting out this fire, but at the end of the day you aren't going to go charging into a burning building, so at least realize what a hypocrite you are for judging people who do risk their lives for others on an occupational or volunteer basis. | ||
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HeadhunteR
Argentina1258 Posts
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
This is a pretty fucked up incident. It's also an example of a pretty fucked up system. On October 06 2010 00:00 sk` wrote: Either way, I first posted that I was glad I don't live in the states anymore; I'm still very glad. Hey, I was going to say that. | ||
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Cloud
Sexico5880 Posts
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