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Qiin
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia102 Posts
August 27 2010 00:00 GMT
#1
"A Japanese research team said Thursday it had developed the world's first 3D television system that allows users to touch, pinch or poke images floating in front of them."

Source: http://www.physorg.com/news202021302.html?utm_source=KurzweilAI Daily Newsletter&utm_campaign=e16fe0d37d-UA-946742-1&utm_medium=email

Very cool, i wonder how long it will take to implement this into video games and home theaters :O

I doubt it is as good as it sounds.... just like 3D tvs right now...
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The_Pacifist
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States540 Posts
August 27 2010 00:06 GMT
#2
"You can have the sense of touch like poking a rubber ball or stretching a sticky rice cake" when manipulating images"

What? Do they mean you can actually "feel" the sensation of touch as the nerves in your fingertips interact with the images or do they mean that it looks and seems so real, considering the accurate reactions of touching the images, that it seems like you can actually feel something?

I highly doubt it's the former, but the article should have clarified better. Sounds like Microsoft's Kinect mixed in with a 3D TV.
Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1259 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 00:12:08
August 27 2010 00:10 GMT
#3
Brace for those Star Trek "Holodecks"?

This is freaking awesome. It does say "You can have the sense of touch like poking a rubber ball or stretching a sticky rice cake" so it may actually be the sense of touch on the users side.
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Adila
Profile Joined April 2010
United States874 Posts
August 27 2010 00:12 GMT
#4
Otaku must be screaming in joy...
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
August 27 2010 00:13 GMT
#5
On August 27 2010 09:12 Adila wrote:
Otaku must be screaming in joy...



literally the first thing I thought too
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 00:16:50
August 27 2010 00:16 GMT
#6

On August 27 2010 09:12 Adila wrote:
Otakus must be screaming in joy...





At least use proper grammar D: come on now.
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Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
August 27 2010 00:17 GMT
#7
This will bring joy to otaku. Especially those who love eroge games.
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
NIJ
Profile Joined March 2010
1012 Posts
August 27 2010 00:19 GMT
#8
Lol ero games.

And lol at ppl who bought 3dtvs. If they have to upgrade yet again.
Act of thinking logically cannot possibly be natural to the human mind. If it were, then mathematics would be everybody's easiest course at school and our species would not have taken several millennia to figure out the scientific method -NDT
Qiin
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia102 Posts
August 27 2010 00:21 GMT
#9
On August 27 2010 09:19 NIJ wrote:
Lol ero games.

And lol at ppl who bought 3dtvs. If they have to upgrade yet again.


ha ha yes, my friend bought a 3d TV yesterday and i just told him the news... he wasn't very happy to say the least :p
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Batch
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden692 Posts
August 27 2010 00:27 GMT
#10
I have actually used similar systems using haptic interfaces when I took a course in multimodal interfaces. One system was a simulator used to train surgeons doing laparoscopy. You got your visual input from a screen showing what the cameras would have shown in a real situation and did the surgery with tools connected to a machine giving you haptic feedback and giving you the ability to feel how it feels to touch someones guts.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
August 27 2010 00:28 GMT
#11
The japanese would be the first to think about this...

Japan- the worldwide leader in 3d pornography
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RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
August 27 2010 00:29 GMT
#12
If they actually created something like this, I would buy it the day it comes out, regardless of cost or demand. Assuming it works, of course.
Alexstrasas
Profile Joined August 2010
302 Posts
August 27 2010 00:38 GMT
#13
Japan making yet another step into locking down geeks inside their houses
kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
August 27 2010 00:45 GMT
#14
i can see that porn is going 4d lol
대지따라 돌린게 시간이다.. 흘러가고 돌아오지도 않고..
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
August 27 2010 00:47 GMT
#15
This is what happens when HK decides to compete with Japan in the porn industry, they just get outdone 100x
NIJ
Profile Joined March 2010
1012 Posts
August 27 2010 00:51 GMT
#16
I think its no coincidence that first two touch they mention feels like a

"Soft rubber ball"
"Sticky ricecake"

lol I'm still at work and bored to death. And I can't get my mind off the gutter at this topic.
Act of thinking logically cannot possibly be natural to the human mind. If it were, then mathematics would be everybody's easiest course at school and our species would not have taken several millennia to figure out the scientific method -NDT
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
August 27 2010 00:54 GMT
#17
Ah those crafty japanese...
Gecko
Profile Joined August 2010
United States519 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 00:55:41
August 27 2010 00:54 GMT
#18
This sounds awesome, The 3D out now is kinda lame. i tried it a 3D tv at best buy and i was not impressed.
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
August 27 2010 00:55 GMT
#19
On August 27 2010 09:12 Adila wrote:
Otaku must be screaming in joy...


LOLLLLLLLLLLLL
Qiin
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia102 Posts
August 27 2010 00:55 GMT
#20
On August 27 2010 09:54 Gecko wrote:
Landover baptist is a joke site, kinda like the onion. The sad thing is that many people are fooled and believe the stuff posted



wrong thread buddy!
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Gecko
Profile Joined August 2010
United States519 Posts
August 27 2010 00:56 GMT
#21
On August 27 2010 09:55 Qiin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 09:54 Gecko wrote:
Landover baptist is a joke site, kinda like the onion. The sad thing is that many people are fooled and believe the stuff posted



wrong thread buddy!


I know, i edited it out . thats what i get for browsing TL in multiple tabs
ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
August 27 2010 01:00 GMT
#22
Japan, always putting so much sweat and hard work into technology. To provide us with better porn.
Hi!
Kishkumen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States650 Posts
August 27 2010 01:04 GMT
#23
On August 27 2010 09:16 Monokeros wrote:

Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 09:12 Adila wrote:
Otakus must be screaming in joy...





At least use proper grammar D: come on now.


Well, the plural form of the original word is the same as the singular (since Japanese doesn't normally distinguish singular and plural). I see no problem with this.
Weird, last time I checked the UN said you need to have at least 200 APM and be rainbow league to be called human. —Liquid`TLO
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
August 27 2010 01:31 GMT
#24
this sounds so promising.
POGGERS
MadVillain
Profile Joined June 2010
United States402 Posts
August 27 2010 01:33 GMT
#25
Kinda disappointed that they don't explain further how it works. Nonetheless it is going to be a very long time before stuff like this hits the market for consumer use, right now it just isn't practical albeit very entertaining.
For The Swarm!
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
August 27 2010 01:54 GMT
#26
On August 27 2010 09:51 NIJ wrote:
I think its no coincidence that first two touch they mention feels like a

"Soft rubber ball"
"Sticky ricecake"

lol I'm still at work and bored to death. And I can't get my mind off the gutter at this topic.


That's pretty funny actually
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
NeCroPoTeNce
Profile Joined July 2009
United States513 Posts
August 27 2010 02:06 GMT
#27
That's hella legit. Boggles my mind how this would work.
zerg all the way! Lee Jaedong hwaiting
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 02:13:57
August 27 2010 02:08 GMT
#28
On August 27 2010 09:45 kaleidoscope wrote:
i can see that porn is going 4d lol

Reading article now, but yeah, this is the first thing I thought.

I like touching art. Haha, last year I was checking out the Toronto Museum of Arts and Stuff and I was putting my fingers close to all the paintings to kinda inspect them, and then these big bodyguards came by and were like "hey you! don't be touching our paintings, they be worth more than I make in a millenias". And then I wanted to tell them that I was just looking but was afraid they'd beat me with a stick. the ones shaped like this |-

Then later I actually did touch one of the artworks, it was an abstract black sculpture, and the guard caught me. I was so sad that I got caught. The guard could be like "haha! I caught a guy touching the art! See guys, I'm not useless".

Whenever I try to visualize something I often use my hands to try to shape it. So being able to touch art would be awesome.

okuraku
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States210 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 02:12:39
August 27 2010 02:11 GMT
#29
This looks a lot like the "photoelasticity" research they were doing at the university where I studied in Tokyo..

http://www.vogue.is.uec.ac.jp/PET/

Video there shows how this tech probably works if it's not the exact same research group

And yeah, the first time I saw this I immediately thought of Japan's obsession with dating simulators like Love Plus+
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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 27 2010 02:13 GMT
#30
...xD It's really funny coincidence this technology is from Japan; gives additional element of potential hilarity to otherwise significant advance in TV technology.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
August 27 2010 02:13 GMT
#31
Just imagine how it could become in the future... :p no more rapes just someone with wild minds getting satisfied once and for all and everyone is happy ~ oh god. I'm thinking too much T_T
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
August 27 2010 02:14 GMT
#32
Or kill a person without actually killing it. The world would become better, but with many hidden bad thoughts. Take it leave it ? T_T
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51497 Posts
August 27 2010 02:19 GMT
#33
On August 27 2010 09:28 ZlaSHeR wrote:
The japanese would be the first to think about this...

Japan- the worldwide leader in 3d pornography


yes those naughty Japanese.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BeJe77
Profile Joined April 2006
United States377 Posts
August 27 2010 02:19 GMT
#34
So basically this is almost every Otaku's dream come true. After this I predict the entire Japanese society going downhill

EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
August 27 2010 02:20 GMT
#35
I gotta get one of these sets when they become commercially available :3

TvZ, the next great MMO. You can even feel the zergling blood!
Kishkumen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States650 Posts
August 27 2010 03:32 GMT
#36
On August 27 2010 11:19 BeJe77 wrote:
So basically this is almost every Otaku's dream come true. After this I predict the entire Japanese society going downhill



I don't think their society needs the help. Their economy has been slowly deflating for over 20 years.
Weird, last time I checked the UN said you need to have at least 200 APM and be rainbow league to be called human. —Liquid`TLO
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
August 27 2010 08:01 GMT
#37
On August 27 2010 09:47 Chairman Ray wrote:
This is what happens when HK decides to compete with Japan in the porn industry, they just get outdone 100x

HK has a p0rn industry? i have to say Japan hands down PWNS the industry. i mean... theres some genres of p0rn in Japan that there isnt even a word in English for it.
...from the land of imba
Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
August 27 2010 08:03 GMT
#38
On August 27 2010 17:01 dybydx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 09:47 Chairman Ray wrote:
This is what happens when HK decides to compete with Japan in the porn industry, they just get outdone 100x

HK has a p0rn industry? i have to say Japan hands down PWNS the industry. i mean... theres some genres of p0rn in Japan that there isnt even a word in English for it.


Must agree with you there.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 27 2010 08:11 GMT
#39
Screw the otakus, I'M screaming in joy. I hope this means I can have proper swordfights in my living room. Like an integrated first person version of Soul Calibur, where you could duke it out with Ivy or Taki or Sophitia and then when you've won you can moles... Heeey how'd I end up down here?
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
August 27 2010 08:23 GMT
#40
On August 27 2010 09:16 Monokeros wrote:

Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 09:12 Adila wrote:
Otakus must be screaming in joy...





At least use proper grammar D: come on now.



because in japanese you add "s" to pluralize words, right?
HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 08:38:19
August 27 2010 08:31 GMT
#41
Sweet virgin mary on a stick, this is too good to be true...
The future is upon us, and all I have to say is "Make it so, number one."


Also it's quite clear from reading how they worded it that you actually can't feel the images, but you can manipulate them. Perhaps it's possible to fool your brain though, I really don't know.

Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
August 27 2010 08:41 GMT
#42
On August 27 2010 09:00 Qiin wrote:


Very cool, i wonder how long it will take to implement this into video games and home theaters :O




It's japanese, they're going to put in porn asap.
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Doctorasul
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Romania1145 Posts
August 27 2010 10:30 GMT
#43
If you can only manipulate the images but not feel them, how is that any news? We can already manipulate images, the only difference would be the interface is gestures instead of a mouse and keyboard.

But the article is so vague that you can't really say for sure. It's possible there's actually no news and they're just making it sound new and awesome when it actually isn't. So either the article is misleading or it is too light on actually reporting stuff.
"I believe in Spinoza's god who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but not in a god who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings." - Albert Einstein
Qiin
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia102 Posts
August 27 2010 10:38 GMT
#44
On August 27 2010 19:30 Doctorasul wrote:
If you can only manipulate the images but not feel them, how is that any news? We can already manipulate images, the only difference would be the interface is gestures instead of a mouse and keyboard.

But the article is so vague that you can't really say for sure. It's possible there's actually no news and they're just making it sound new and awesome when it actually isn't. So either the article is misleading or it is too light on actually reporting stuff.


the article itself is pretty vague but the source is reliable. Physorg is a very good and reliable website
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Badjas
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Netherlands2038 Posts
August 27 2010 10:41 GMT
#45
no tactile feedback = no touch sensation = bullshit.

This is just interacting by hand waving gestures in the air. Perhaps in a really good resolution.

It would be interesting to find out how the setup is. If users have to have a static predefined point of view for the illusion to work and how much gear would possibly be in the way.
I <3 the internet, I <3 you
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-27 11:40:52
August 27 2010 11:40 GMT
#46
On August 27 2010 17:31 HeIios wrote:
Also it's quite clear from reading how they worded it that you actually can't feel the images, but you can manipulate them. Perhaps it's possible to fool your brain though, I really don't know.


Yeah but what about this statement,

This technology could create a virtual museum where visitors, including vision-impaired people, can put their hands on valuable sculptures that are usually untouchable

1. Why would I want to touch a sculpture if I couldn't actually feel it?
2. And why would a freakin' blind person want to touch it if he can't feel it!?

This article is annoying me.
HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
August 27 2010 17:12 GMT
#47
On August 27 2010 20:40 hifriend wrote:

2. And why would a freakin' blind person want to touch it if he can't feel it!?

This article is annoying me.


Now that's a VERY good question. If anyone can fill us in on this when they release more information, that would be fantastic.
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
August 27 2010 17:14 GMT
#48
Ruh roh, here come the Feelies from Brave New World.
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