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Chibi[OWNS]
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United Kingdom10597 Posts
May 10 2004 09:17 GMT
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Pumpkin
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United States1141 Posts
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BeJJeLove
Niv)Mutal
Profile Joined April 2004
United States65 Posts
May 10 2004 09:20 GMT
#3
What if the filter is infested?
sups
Pumpkin
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United States1141 Posts
May 10 2004 09:21 GMT
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BeJJeLove
Niv)Mutal
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United States65 Posts
May 10 2004 09:22 GMT
#5
On May 10 2004 18:21 Pumpkin wrote:
with an eyeball ?

Not a laughing matter!!!
sups
Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
May 10 2004 09:25 GMT
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Pumpkin
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United States1141 Posts
May 10 2004 09:33 GMT
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BeJJeLove
rplant
Profile Joined May 2003
United States1178 Posts
May 10 2004 09:40 GMT
#8
I think it's a lot worse. When you rip the filter off a Red it becomes almost impossible to smoke.
Believing in God is like believing in a teapot orbiting Mars (Edit: wow I was a douche in 2003)
Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
May 10 2004 09:47 GMT
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Chibi[OWNS]
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United Kingdom10597 Posts
May 10 2004 09:48 GMT
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beanmachine
Profile Joined December 2003
United States115 Posts
May 10 2004 09:50 GMT
#11
Umm don't you like your lungs? I would only smoke regularly (especially unfiltered) if I was fat and was never going to run again anyway.
Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
May 10 2004 09:59 GMT
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RuGbUg
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2347 Posts
May 10 2004 10:03 GMT
#13
On May 10 2004 18:17 Chibi[OWNS] wrote:
How bad is this exactly?

I only smoke for the taste and headrush, I'm not yet addicted afaik

But I never ever use filters. I found I don't get headrush if I do, but I smoke 2-6 a day.. How bad is this compared to smoking with filter?

i'd suggest stopping smoking soon if thats all your addicted too ("i wont stop because i still like the rush" wouldn't be a smart reason to keep smoking, and would hint at a possible addiction)

p.s. what is afaik?
anguish: its like that time i asked my bestfriend who happened to be black if his dick was bigger than mine anguish: he got angry anguish: and told me i was racist and gay
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
May 10 2004 10:05 GMT
#14
On May 10 2004 19:03 RuGbUg wrote:
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On May 10 2004 18:17 Chibi[OWNS] wrote:
How bad is this exactly?

I only smoke for the taste and headrush, I'm not yet addicted afaik

But I never ever use filters. I found I don't get headrush if I do, but I smoke 2-6 a day.. How bad is this compared to smoking with filter?

i'd suggest stopping smoking soon if thats all your addicted too ("i wont stop because i still like the rush" wouldn't be a smart reason to keep smoking, and would hint at a possible addiction)

p.s. what is afaik?


i won't stop because i stil like the rush is addiction.
:O
rplant
Profile Joined May 2003
United States1178 Posts
May 10 2004 10:05 GMT
#15
One of my friends rolls his own. Well, not really, he has some cheesy injector kit that he uses with "premium" tobacco because it comes out a lot cheaper than buying normal cigarettes. Those things are okay, and the tobacco tastes a lot better than the shit you pull out of a marlboro light if you want to roll a joint with hash+tobacco. They probably are harsher than the cigarettes I smoke, but nothing like filterless reds.
Believing in God is like believing in a teapot orbiting Mars (Edit: wow I was a douche in 2003)
Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
May 10 2004 10:09 GMT
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suLTan[CaN]
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada322 Posts
May 10 2004 10:23 GMT
#17
On May 10 2004 18:17 Chibi[OWNS] wrote:
How bad is this exactly?

I only smoke for the taste and headrush, I'm not yet addicted afaik

But I never ever use filters. I found I don't get headrush if I do, but I smoke 2-6 a day.. How bad is this compared to smoking with filter?


Please tell me you're talking about smoking pot
RuGbUg
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2347 Posts
May 10 2004 11:02 GMT
#18
On May 10 2004 19:09 Chibi[OWNS] wrote:
well afaik a sign of not being addicted is that you still feel a headrush

afaik = as far as i know

So when you stop getting a headrush you'll quit cause thats the only reason you're smoking, right? but wait! that means you're already addicted!
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dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
May 10 2004 11:09 GMT
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taeWook
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1367 Posts
May 10 2004 11:44 GMT
#20
Have you heard of herbal cigarrettes?

http://www.herbalcigarettes.co.uk/home.html

makes you quit, and its supposedly supposed to be healtier for you.

Anyone try this yet?
keep your friends close but your enemies closer.
Wing
Profile Joined March 2004
United States185 Posts
May 10 2004 16:34 GMT
#21
How anyone actually enjoys the "buzz" cigs give you is beyond me. That headrush and tingly sick feeling is nasty

Anyways, I think the majority of studies will tell you it's all about the same. Unfiltered smokers smoke less/take smaller "drags"/etc. in general than filtered smokers, regular filtered smokers smoke less/""/"" in general than "light" cigarette smokers, etc.

BlazeD
Profile Joined April 2004
Canada236 Posts
May 10 2004 16:49 GMT
#22
enjoy ur cancer + heart problems + yellow teeth + bad breath + many more diseases. it doesnt even get u high, i actually hope u smokers catch some disease so u will learn ur lesson
goin down around here nigga, get ur motherfuckin head bust, them motherfuckin street lights go out, them real niggerz come out, all the bitch niggerz go in the house, shit is not a game man, dont fuck around n lose ur brain - young buck
Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
May 10 2004 17:00 GMT
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Sirakor
Profile Joined April 2003
Great Britain455 Posts
May 10 2004 17:01 GMT
#24
On May 10 2004 18:17 Chibi[OWNS] wrote:
How bad is this exactly?

I only smoke for the taste and headrush, I'm not yet addicted afaik

But I never ever use filters. I found I don't get headrush if I do, but I smoke 2-6 a day.. How bad is this compared to smoking with filter?


slight contradiction there, dont u think?


On May 11 2004 01:49 BlazeD wrote:
enjoy ur cancer + heart problems + yellow teeth + bad breath + many more diseases.


Chibi u gotto know if thats worth it u know?

Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-05-10 17:36:29
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Ceril
Profile Joined April 2003
Sweden1343 Posts
May 10 2004 17:45 GMT
#26
Ciggaretts are nice :-)
Just because you can now store where everyone was and is, what they like, what they fear who they talk to and who they love. It does not mean we should so spy upon our fellow man in a dystopia far worse then 1984
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10678 Posts
May 10 2004 17:48 GMT
#27
On May 11 2004 01:49 BlazeD wrote:
enjoy ur cancer + heart problems + yellow teeth + bad breath + many more diseases. it doesnt even get u high, i actually hope u smokers catch some disease so u will learn ur lesson


enjoy your homosexuallity


i smoked for like 4 years like 1 or 2 daily (a pack on parties) but i was never addicted until a one month ago when i really smell the smoke and i carve for smokes
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MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
May 10 2004 19:26 GMT
#28
I think smoking is stupid.
MrEd
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia357 Posts
May 10 2004 19:41 GMT
#29
well look at it this way, by the end of a cig the filter is yellow, no filter means that yellow tar shit is going into ur lungs. but also even with a filter a shitload of crap goes into ur lungs. Try taking a drag with a tissue over the end...rotten
My cats breath smells like cat food
rplant
Profile Joined May 2003
United States1178 Posts
May 10 2004 19:46 GMT
#30
Cigarettes are great, especially after alcohol or weed. If you don't want to start smoking, don't ever light up when you're hammered/stoned, that's what did me in. They must have some good fatality figures on this stuff. I wonder what the average age is for males who die of smoking related diseases.
Believing in God is like believing in a teapot orbiting Mars (Edit: wow I was a douche in 2003)
JudasT
Profile Joined January 2003
Spain2226 Posts
May 10 2004 19:55 GMT
#31
I left smoking 5 months ago and I feel much better now ! ... I smoked like 4/5 cigarretes every week day, and like 50 on weekends when I went out, that was crazy GRRR.

Now, I only smoke ONE weed joint every friday/sat night while playing SC
Taking the time to have simple fun everyday is a must for a happy life.
TLKiD
Profile Joined May 2004
China1136 Posts
May 10 2004 20:07 GMT
#32
i think the filter is just a tool for not touching the inside of a cigrarret so it doesnt matter to my knowledge
My life is so hard :(
Plenty
Profile Joined September 2003
Australia130 Posts
May 11 2004 07:03 GMT
#33
Im a smoker of 5 years

Ive had some times with roll ups, id have to say roll up wins, but somehow i cbf rollin' em up when i want a cigarette. cigarettes is MORE harsher then roll ups IMO.

CHIBI, trust me, you'd look like a idiot if u smoked for headrushes & taste.. Taste? LoLZ, you meant about the quality of headrushes, well, go for the pot, dont bother thinkin about cigs cause its real fucked up a) its hard to stop when youre sick of it b) waste of money c) ETC

Manner yo~
The average blue whale ejaculates 400 gallons of sperm while mating. Yet, only about 10% of the sperm actually makes it into the female, leaving 360 gallons of unused sperm ... and people wonder why the ocean tastes salty
Plenty
Profile Joined September 2003
Australia130 Posts
May 11 2004 07:05 GMT
#34
BTW, to your question ' How bad is it without filter? No such thing, tobacco is tobacco w/ filter or w/o filter, same shit.
The average blue whale ejaculates 400 gallons of sperm while mating. Yet, only about 10% of the sperm actually makes it into the female, leaving 360 gallons of unused sperm ... and people wonder why the ocean tastes salty
ProtossPower
Profile Joined May 2004
United States55 Posts
May 11 2004 07:17 GMT
#35
Smoking cigarettes to get a buzz. *rolls eyes*
][-][eretic
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada395 Posts
May 11 2004 15:06 GMT
#36
How about smoking for the taste..... wow thats just fucking sick?
Hi :)
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10678 Posts
May 11 2004 18:33 GMT
#37
ofcourse its not the same, thats the function of a damn filter... to filter duh!, so it contains less toxic substances.

btw i dont know what you mean with the "head rush", its tabacoo dude, not hash -____________-;
Im back, in pog form!
Kpone
Profile Joined December 2003
France167 Posts
May 11 2004 20:05 GMT
#38
filter is dead in 4/5 blows, most of specialist says that filter is mostly something commercial just like "now you can smoke don't worry".

Oh and btw don't start smoking on a regular basis, tobacco is shit esp the one you smoke in cigs which is mixed with a lot of chemical stuff.
damn i fucked up this one...gg.....re?? ^^
Plenty
Profile Joined September 2003
Australia130 Posts
May 12 2004 03:58 GMT
#39
All First timer smokers get alot of headrushes, after few more cigs, u dont get en headrush no more. All i remember my first time with smokes for like 2 weeks, WHOA COOL HEADRUSHES!~~~~~ that was it. 4 years and 50weeks, no headrushes.
w/e
cigs own k
The average blue whale ejaculates 400 gallons of sperm while mating. Yet, only about 10% of the sperm actually makes it into the female, leaving 360 gallons of unused sperm ... and people wonder why the ocean tastes salty
Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
May 12 2004 04:03 GMT
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Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
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May 12 2004 04:04 GMT
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
May 12 2004 04:07 GMT
#42
I don't know if it was mentioned, but filters do nearly nothing. The only reason they were put there was to keep tabacco out of the smoker's mouth.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
May 12 2004 04:11 GMT
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choader
Profile Joined June 2003
United States487 Posts
May 12 2004 14:00 GMT
#44
I started smoking about 1 a day lately after work/before bed. The nicotine buzz really is pretty nice if I just smoke, come in, and lay down, but I don't like doing much of anything after a cigarette.

For those suggesting that he just smoke weed, you have to realize that's a completely different thing. Sometimes I feel like a little buzz to ease my nerves, but I don't feel like the long high or morning grogginess associated with weed. It's like if someone wanted a cookie and you told him to eat a hamburger or somethign instead. He wants a cookie, not a hamburger, dude

Oh, I just bought my first pack of cloves. They taste crazy good, but they're really long and cancer-filled. Sometimes I feel a little sick for a few minutes after just one.
Failure by design.
Amnesty
Profile Joined April 2003
United States2054 Posts
May 12 2004 16:00 GMT
#45
I started just like you, a few a day just for a rush.
And all i have to say is just stop right now. It will only escalate from their. You will regret it if you don't stop right now. I smoked for over a year, closer to two and I finally quit last fall. It sucked.

Tips for anyone here trying to kick it, i figured out-

Don't tell people 'I'm trying to quit' say I quit
Label yourself a non-smoker, not a smoker on the wagon.

I took like 3 advil a day for the first week. It helped cut the physical discomfort by a third. Head aches, general full-body ickyness feeling. Though the cravings are just as strong.

Identify hobbies and activities where time flies for you. When craving for a fag, your perception of time is greatly skewed as proven in tests. Time skewing is also one of the, if not most, effective torture techniques used today.
Do activities where you feel time flies in an attempt to equalize this effect. This effect is probably the only reason for addiction to cigs. As its torture to go without.

For me playing billards, cooking, watching movies from my personal top 3 list, jogging and sleep makes time fly for me. I engaged in thoose the greater part of the day for the first week of quiting.

Identify situtations where you tend to smoke more and avoid them for a while. When out on weekends playing cards, or at a bar, i would smoke one after the other. I passed on that for a few weekends.
When ever I drove around i wanted to smoke. I kept driving to a minimum. Avoid friends who smoke for a while. Nothing worse than seeing them lite up a yummy cigg.

Using those techniques i had a real easy time kicking it.
The sky just is, and goes on and on; and we play all our BW games beneath it.
Wing
Profile Joined March 2004
United States185 Posts
May 12 2004 16:22 GMT
#46
On May 12 2004 23:00 choader wrote:
It's like if someone wanted a cookie and you told him to eat a hamburger or somethign instead. He wants a cookie, not a hamburger, dude


lol cute analogy
BlazeD
Profile Joined April 2004
Canada236 Posts
May 12 2004 16:55 GMT
#47
u dont need a bunch of step by step ways to quit. god ur not a 2 year old child. just dont buy packs, and dont bum cigarettes. if u feel like u want to, just say to urself repeatedly in ur head, show a little self-respect/discipline. if u ever give in u should feel guilty n ashamed. after a week or two the cravings go away. problem solved. all those 'methods' are for weak minded/ or low iq idiots
goin down around here nigga, get ur motherfuckin head bust, them motherfuckin street lights go out, them real niggerz come out, all the bitch niggerz go in the house, shit is not a game man, dont fuck around n lose ur brain - young buck
rplant
Profile Joined May 2003
United States1178 Posts
May 12 2004 18:09 GMT
#48
Haha, ok blazed, I'm sure everyone who's ever had trouble quitting smoking has been an utter moron and should have consulted you to strengthen them and liberate them from their "weak mindedness."

Sickoflife: If they do nothing (I don't know that they don't) what is all that yellow crap that accumulates on used cigarette filters? Is that not toxic?

I think amnesty's post was pretty useful if you really want to quit, but who cares at this point? Over 70% of cigarette related fatalities occur in people over 65 I read yesterday. Cigarettes are too tasty to quit using until I'm a little older.

:7
Believing in God is like believing in a teapot orbiting Mars (Edit: wow I was a douche in 2003)
LazySCV
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
United States2942 Posts
May 12 2004 22:28 GMT
#49
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personaljesus
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada121 Posts
May 12 2004 22:37 GMT
#50
oh to be 14 again
what
LazySCV
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
United States2942 Posts
May 12 2004 22:42 GMT
#51
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draeger
Profile Joined July 2003
United States3256 Posts
May 12 2004 22:46 GMT
#52
On May 12 2004 13:03 Chibi[OWNS] wrote:
if i dont smoke a day and then smoke one i get super headrush. i've been smoking for 6 months. guess it depends on the person. but people who say 'headrush wtf??' are either unlucky or clueless.

search everything2.com, theres an article about how to smoke for headrush without getting addicted. it recommends no more than 2 per day. i chain smoke when i'm drinking and smoke occaisionally (at least 2 a day) otherwise. people in this thread have reminded me to cut back, thanks for that


You said you've been smoking for 6 months and you claim you're not addicted? Well, why not just stop right now and never smoke again. If you could not make that decision right now without hesitation, then you are addicted.

It took me abvout 6-8 months before I came to that realization myself. Everybody likes to think that it isn't them and that they will not get addicted. Well, it does happen and it has already happened to you.
t.t
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
May 12 2004 23:12 GMT
#53
On May 13 2004 07:42 LaZyScV wrote:
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On May 13 2004 07:37 personaljesus wrote:
oh to be 14 again





I'm 16, and I've smoked before. And just being around people that are smoking disgusts me. It has nothing to do with my age. =\


HAHAHAHAHA. Why is it whenever someone says that smoking is disgusting, someone assumes that they have A) never tried smoking, B) are younger than they are, and C) have never been around smoking, if they haven't smoked? I can't stand smoking, it tastes like shit. I hate the smell of it, too. My parents both smoke like chimneys, and I hate every second of it, and what it does to the smell of my clothes. The effects on the health of them, or myself mean little to me, but it's the smell I hate.

Secondly, I don't have any articles for the filter thing. I was told that in a class I took in school, by a teacher, and he had some paper, which I no longer have. I did, however, search google a bit for something, and found some stuff about them putting nicotine on the filters, and wrappers, and paper of the cigarette to get more nicotine into your body, and thus get a smoker addicted even more.

I don't even understand the addiction. People say, "Oh, I can't live without it." Then I say, "You're weak minded, the cigarette has no physical addiction to it." They then say, "Oh yes it does! Otherwise I'd quit!" When the truth of the matter is the smoker doesn't want to quit, or if they do they are too weak minded to.

I'm getting off topic, though, so I'll stop.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28785 Posts
May 12 2004 23:14 GMT
#54
um

nicotine is physically addictive..?

Moderator
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
May 13 2004 00:25 GMT
#55
On May 13 2004 08:14 Liquid`Drone wrote:
um

nicotine is physically addictive..?



Um, no? It's a mental addiction that cigarettes give you.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
May 13 2004 00:29 GMT
#56
Maybe you should just EAT the cigs
River me timbers.
BlazeD
Profile Joined April 2004
Canada236 Posts
May 13 2004 18:38 GMT
#57
''Haha, ok blazed, I'm sure everyone who's ever had trouble quitting smoking has been an utter moron and should have consulted you to strengthen them and liberate them from their "weak mindedness."

correct to some extent.
the correction to that statement is the following;
if u want to quit but can't then u are an 'utter moron' for not having the intelligence to find a formula that will get u to quit. i mean its not rocket science.
and yes it is a matter of 'weak mind' nobody is holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy or bum smokes. this behaviour is a choice, yes if u been smoking for some time it may be hard (u may give in at first) but ultimately it is just lack of self control. this is kind of like fat people. aside from rare occurences of gene factor (which is probably super super rare in smokers, being fat is an issue of poor nutrition / along with lack of exercise. its ur fault that u dont have the brains to eat properly / or exercise. blaming 'addiction' is just a fall back so u give urself an excuse to continue this behaviour. any intelligent person who wants to quit smoking or lose weight can do it, this isnt some complicated math problem. (the 'quitting guilds' as they call them are for the stupid people who are too stupid to figure out what they need to do themselves)
there is my psychological evaluation. feel free to consult me for advice -_-
goin down around here nigga, get ur motherfuckin head bust, them motherfuckin street lights go out, them real niggerz come out, all the bitch niggerz go in the house, shit is not a game man, dont fuck around n lose ur brain - young buck
amat
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1788 Posts
May 13 2004 18:43 GMT
#58
On May 13 2004 09:25 SickofLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2004 08:14 Liquid`Drone wrote:
um

nicotine is physically addictive..?



Um, no? It's a mental addiction that cigarettes give you.

It's physical and mental.
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7op
Profile Joined February 2004
Canada654 Posts
May 14 2004 14:34 GMT
#59
its good smoking makes you look cool
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10678 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-05-14 17:21:28
May 14 2004 17:20 GMT
#60
On May 13 2004 08:14 Liquid`Drone wrote:
um

nicotine is physically addictive..?


yes it is
Im back, in pog form!
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10678 Posts
May 14 2004 17:21 GMT
#61
cigarretes makes you cool, popular with women and also they maybe make you a cool cowboy
Im back, in pog form!
Mydnyte
Profile Joined October 2003
3306 Posts
May 14 2004 17:22 GMT
#62
MoooN
Profile Joined February 2003
Germany402 Posts
May 14 2004 17:24 GMT
#63
2-6 a day and ur not adicted??? dont lie to urself pls...

smoking without filter is MUCH worser
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