• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:17
CET 20:17
KST 04:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners10Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!40$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship6[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win10
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon! Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close"
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1749 users

climatologist mann cleared of misconduct charges - Page 3

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 Next All
hizBALLIN
Profile Joined June 2010
United States163 Posts
July 04 2010 13:39 GMT
#41
On July 04 2010 21:38 Licmyobelisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 17:16 Ideas wrote:
On July 04 2010 15:29 TOloseGT wrote:
On July 04 2010 12:42 De4ngus wrote:
On July 04 2010 12:33 Kentor wrote:
On July 04 2010 12:29 dcberkeley wrote:
On July 04 2010 12:19 Tadzio wrote:
On July 04 2010 12:19 BlackJack wrote:
On July 04 2010 12:13 Manifesto7 wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:49 rich- wrote:
[quote]
No, you're thinking of Michael Scott. Michael Mann played for the Chicago Bulls and is generally considered one of the best basketball players of all time.

No, you're thinking of Michael Jordan. Michael Mann is the turtle with the orange headband who uses nunchaku and coined the popular 80's phrase "kawabunga".


No, you're thinking of Michaelangelo. Michael Mann was a famous Italian Rennaisance painter/sculptor.



No, you're thinking of Michelangelo. Michael Mann was the 1929 Nobel Prize winning German novelist.

No, you're thinking of Thomas Mann. Michael Mann is a vast geographic region in Northeast Asia and is the traditional homeland of the Xianbei.

No, you're thinking of Manchuria. Michael Mann is the TL user who is supposed to danced to Bo Peep a long time ago.

No, you're thinking of Michael Yu. Michael Mann molested little boys.


No, you're thinking of Michael Jackson. Michael Mann was the oldest brother of Lucifer, Gabriel and Raphael.


No, you're thinking of Michael the Archangel. Michael Mann is the guy who deserves #1 on the Power Rank. (I guess i did it wrong but so did someone else -_-) the world's most famous dog-fighter.



No, you're thinking of May KeeL Lee, Michael Mann is the guy who was a judged that died in 1998.


No, you're thinking of Michael Torphy. Michael Mann is the guy who was the last head of state in the USSR.
That which is overdesigned, too highly specific, anticipates outcomes; the anticipation of outcome guarantees, if not failure, the absence of grace.
angelicfolly
Profile Joined June 2010
United States292 Posts
July 04 2010 13:53 GMT
#42
On July 04 2010 21:29 KlaCkoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 20:20 Maji wrote:
Gobal Warming as it is presented by .... scientists is untrue however . ....


As I see it the choice is pretty clear cut, act as if the threat of global warming was real and in the extremely unlikely event that it's not then we will have invested tons of money in shit that's extremely useful anyways.


Then if you are against the Iraq war DO NOT make a deal out of it. You cannot say it was wrong if everything turns out right. (point to take into account)

We have also investment more money into things that would be useless. People like Al Gore would of gotten rich off of fear mongering and lies.

A whole industry which happens to want control of counties and the way they do things (to the extent of hampering other developing countries) would of existing because of lie.

The scientific community will take a huge hit to credibility also in the eyes of a lot of people.

It is not a no-loss situation.





KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
July 04 2010 14:17 GMT
#43
On July 04 2010 22:53 angelicfolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 21:29 KlaCkoN wrote:
On July 04 2010 20:20 Maji wrote:
Gobal Warming as it is presented by .... scientists is untrue however . ....


As I see it the choice is pretty clear cut, act as if the threat of global warming was real and in the extremely unlikely event that it's not then we will have invested tons of money in shit that's extremely useful anyways.


Then if you are against the Iraq war DO NOT make a deal out of it. You cannot say it was wrong if everything turns out right. (point to take into account)

We have also investment more money into things that would be useless. People like Al Gore would of gotten rich off of fear mongering and lies.

A whole industry which happens to want control of counties and the way they do things (to the extent of hampering other developing countries) would of existing because of lie.

The scientific community will take a huge hit to credibility also in the eyes of a lot of people.

It is not a no-loss situation.






And the consequences if it is true and we do nothing will be many, many times worse.
political decisions needs to be made now (well they needed to be made 20 years ago). Gambling the future of our civilization on the off chance that the guys on the fringe are right for once would be criminally stupid.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
angelicfolly
Profile Joined June 2010
United States292 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 14:56:41
July 04 2010 14:53 GMT
#44
On July 04 2010 20:20 Maji wrote:



And the consequences if it is true and we do nothing will be many, many times worse.
political decisions needs to be made now (well they needed to be made 20 years ago). Gambling the future of our civilization on the off chance that the guys on the fringe are right for once would be criminally stupid.


Which one would be worse? Man-made or normal nature?

So you want political decisions to made in the heart of the moment instead of considering everything like whats happening now? Didn't such fervor get us into Iraq?

Climate gate, has a problem with this.

Go after the information not the person. It doesn't work to marginalize somebody by calling them fringe, when one the information may very well be correct, and two credibility has already been questioned by one side.



Maji
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia82 Posts
July 04 2010 15:17 GMT
#45
On July 04 2010 21:29 KlaCkoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 20:20 Maji wrote:
Gobal Warming as it is presented by .... scientists is untrue however . ....


Really? Do you have actual proof for that? Of course you don't but if you did you'd have a couple of 1000 of citations within the year and most likely a proffesorship at Harvard to boot, just saying.

Yeah there are scientists who don't believe in the current theory of global warming. There are also highly respected matemathicians arguing for the existance of a biggest natural number.
Point being that there will always be guys on the fringe, guys who disagree (And that's a very good thing) In 99.9% of cases they are wrong and either forgotten or ridiculed.
In the remaing cases they get to name a new era.

It is very likely that humans burning hydrocarbons on a large scale has increased the concentration of CO2 in the atmoshpere. It is also very likely that this has lead to and will lead to an increase in the average temperature on earth.

It is a fact that _if_ the temperature rises to levels were the ice caps start melting enough for the oceans to rise appcreciably our civalization will be in huge trouble. Imagine cities like New York, Shanghai, all of the Netherlands etc under water. Not to mention that melting glaciers could lead to a huge shortage of drinking water in China (That's a pretty good reason to start a desperation war if there ever was one)

If the current theories are completly wrong what's the worst case scenario? We find ourselves having invested billions in energy sources not based on hydrocarbons? Well that's not a particularly bad scenario anyway since we need them for tons of other stuff and just burning them is a huge waste of resources. Not to mention all the other forms of pollution (proven and beyond a doubt real) that comes from running an economy based on burning oil and coal that we will suddenly be rid of.

As I see it the choice is pretty clear cut, act as if the threat of global warming was real and in the extremely unlikely event that it's not then we will have invested tons of money in shit that's extremely useful anyways.


I said as it been presented which is now also being exposed with the climategate scandal... I will clarify I am not saying that CO2 does not affect atmosphere but what I am saying is that there is more to this than what people being told, the actually statistics for human impact on the gobal warming impact 'climate changing' is actually 14% that leaves a uncounted for 86% in which there is people aware of what the other 86% is and we cant stop it there is nothing we can do to prevent it.

Wars will be part of it but so will vistors take opportunitys to preserve life as well as take control themself, bio-organic technology what you call biology is a precious resource it will be harvested before the end that is certain you will see a massive amount of ufo activity in following years in which may be also a contact, I will give you a warning thou the ones who come to make contact do so for their own gain the belevonant races are on a non interference agreement in which does allow preservance of dna 'hence the Ark in your bible storys' what humanity doesnt known is their is greater communitys in which when a civilisation reachs a specific point that if it doesnt destroy itself they can be welcomed into, other wise the planet itself immune system kicks into effect and cleanses herself I do know the events which are to occur and reasons why in which reasons I know these things you would not understand so no point explaining it too you.

There is plans against you in which I will not speak about now as it is off topic, but those responsible are as you view the concept 'Evil'.

You are killing your world and because of this she is about to elimate your species, you have less time than you think and these cycles and effect of them will be determined by your worlds state of consciousness as it approaches the moment of transition. The creator has sent embassitors of light to try to awaken your world they are incarnated amongst your species known as 'starseeds' your state of mind as a gobal consciousness is what is most important for you because the dimensions barriors will lift for a short period which can allow for a crossing into a higher dimension of the earth in which the earth herself is going to move and leave behind the corspe to be reborn like the phoenix.

Your evidence is all through your history in your ancient cultures all prophercys and information contained and past on by all cultures of your world is refering to a specific moment, in bible you call this time the 'Harvest' the return of Christ they are one and the same but as it spoke when Christ came second time it would be as a lion that the fury of the creator would be unleashed on the wicked 'this translations represents what the earth is about to do to you and the opportunity of ascension approaching' Rapture represents a moment in which those ready in correct frequecy 'vibration' can untilize a rare quantum event in which a kinetic wave allows for transferance of consciousness to new vesels waiting in parrarel dimension at higher octave of density dimensions, those left behind will experience as expected the apocalyse which will indeed include war famine desease in which preparations have been occuring hence the growing troubles, those left behind deserve it, it the collection of their multidimensional karma in which was not absolved and must play out in a acelerated experience hence a catalyst is a opportunity of growth.

How many make it is open most of your species is distracted, has no ideas of your own reality origin of your being or destination at death, nor do you understand truely what your reality is you have a basis but it is flawed in many ways.

Point in revealing this to you now is to show you the issues occuring like gobal warming is part of something bigger it is signs that those with the wisdom will figure out.

good luck on your puzzle.
Life is alll Lessons
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
July 04 2010 15:18 GMT
#46
On July 04 2010 23:53 angelicfolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 20:20 Maji wrote:



And the consequences if it is true and we do nothing will be many, many times worse.
political decisions needs to be made now (well they needed to be made 20 years ago). Gambling the future of our civilization on the off chance that the guys on the fringe are right for once would be criminally stupid.[/QUOTE]

Which one would be worse? Man-made or normal nature?

So you want political decisions to made in the heart of the moment instead of considering everything like whats happening now? Didn't such fervor get us into Iraq?

Climate gate, has a problem with this.

Go after the information not the person. It doesn't work to marginalize somebody by calling them fringe, when one the information may very well be correct, and two credibility has already been questioned by one side.



[/QUOTE]

I don't think anyone knows why exactly the US comanders choose to invade Iraq so whether or not they achieved their goals is equally unknown. I also don't see what this has got to do with anything.

Honestly I don't really understand the point of your post at all, what exactly are you trying to say?
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
July 04 2010 15:23 GMT
#47
On July 05 2010 00:17 Maji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 21:29 KlaCkoN wrote:
On July 04 2010 20:20 Maji wrote:
Gobal Warming as it is presented by .... scientists is untrue however . ....


Really? Do you have actual proof for that? Of course you don't but if you did you'd have a couple of 1000 of citations within the year and most likely a proffesorship at Harvard to boot, just saying.

Yeah there are scientists who don't believe in the current theory of global warming. There are also highly respected matemathicians arguing for the existance of a biggest natural number.
Point being that there will always be guys on the fringe, guys who disagree (And that's a very good thing) In 99.9% of cases they are wrong and either forgotten or ridiculed.
In the remaing cases they get to name a new era.

It is very likely that humans burning hydrocarbons on a large scale has increased the concentration of CO2 in the atmoshpere. It is also very likely that this has lead to and will lead to an increase in the average temperature on earth.

It is a fact that _if_ the temperature rises to levels were the ice caps start melting enough for the oceans to rise appcreciably our civalization will be in huge trouble. Imagine cities like New York, Shanghai, all of the Netherlands etc under water. Not to mention that melting glaciers could lead to a huge shortage of drinking water in China (That's a pretty good reason to start a desperation war if there ever was one)

If the current theories are completly wrong what's the worst case scenario? We find ourselves having invested billions in energy sources not based on hydrocarbons? Well that's not a particularly bad scenario anyway since we need them for tons of other stuff and just burning them is a huge waste of resources. Not to mention all the other forms of pollution (proven and beyond a doubt real) that comes from running an economy based on burning oil and coal that we will suddenly be rid of.

As I see it the choice is pretty clear cut, act as if the threat of global warming was real and in the extremely unlikely event that it's not then we will have invested tons of money in shit that's extremely useful anyways.


I said as it been presented which is now also being exposed with the climategate scandal... I will clarify I am not saying that CO2 does not affect atmosphere but what I am saying is that there is more to this than what people being told, the actually statistics for human impact on the gobal warming impact 'climate changing' is actually 14% that leaves a uncounted for 86% in which there is people aware of what the other 86% is and we cant stop it there is nothing we can do to prevent it.
....
.

Source please. (peer reviewed journal) I honestly don't think there is a consensus of just _how_ much the earth is warming for there to be percentages that specific about anything.

"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
July 04 2010 15:33 GMT
#48
I do think there's a real deficiency in public understanding of climate change. Take for example the fact that although CO2 is produced in larger quantities than other gases, it isn't a spectacular greenhouse gas. Methane, on the other hand, is produced in lesser (but still significant) amounts and turns out to be about 50 times better at trapping heat. On the whole, it contributes about the same amount as CO2. And there are others.

And yet all we ever hear about is CO2.
Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
Maji
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia82 Posts
July 04 2010 15:39 GMT
#49
do your own homework or you never learn, that is the point... perhaps we revealed more to it than you realize let wait and see how many look up all archives later once 'proof' is there reality...It now logged on this forum isnt it... I am not saying that changing to be more greener is a bad thing what I am telling you is it is to late, humanity is about to be tested in a karmatic experience in which nature, alien and humanity will all play a part in.



User was warned for this post
Life is alll Lessons
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
July 04 2010 15:40 GMT
#50
On July 05 2010 00:39 Maji wrote:
do your own homework or you never learn, that is the point... perhaps we revealed more to it than you realize let wait and see how many look up all archives later once 'proof' is there reality...It now logged on this forum isnt it... I am not saying that changing to be more greener is a bad thing what I am telling you is it is to late, humanity is about to be tested in a karmatic experience in which nature, alien and humanity will all play a part in.


Aka you are just posting random semi religious crap?
Good to know.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
July 04 2010 15:45 GMT
#51
Dude, didn't you get it when he started talking about alien visitors and a female deity that will destroy mankind because we aren't taking care of the planet?
Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
Maji
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia82 Posts
July 04 2010 15:47 GMT
#52
No your response just then is your conditioning this is more than any religion this is to do with the purpose of your creation, you dont think that higher intelligences couldnt help terraform a planet and create life through assisting natural order of development, perhaps some who came and are to come are protecting their assets but perhaps others seek to enslave you further than you already have been.

I ask you this question why is it that certain familys in your world have all the wealth and power while rest of you struggle to makes a living in a system which creates debt constantly so much that you cant ever pay back physically in money what it is writen in electronic debt.

You not considered why their is actually only certain familys and groups and a hierachy structure like a pyramind running your world and who is really pulling the strings of the governments cooperations and religions of this world?
Life is alll Lessons
Maji
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia82 Posts
July 04 2010 15:51 GMT
#53
I will also give you a higher understanding of knowledge just as a gift, matter is formed based on the specific magnetic conditions of its enviroment, certain matter can only be formed under specific magnetic conditions the most powerful conditions are at centre of your planet your core in which their is combinations of matter which is not possible to be generated without those same conditions 'Her Heart'.

Hence what we are telling you is this as well magnetic fields are very important to all forms of matter and are also adjusted via infuelences which affect such fields, example is your scientists are curious how evolution functions but do not understand what causes it to occur I do know answer to this as well but that is enough for now.
Life is alll Lessons
JayDee_
Profile Joined June 2010
548 Posts
July 04 2010 16:04 GMT
#54
On July 04 2010 11:49 rich- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 11:45 TheMango wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:41 ZaplinG wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:37 JackMcCoy wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:35 Kennigit wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:31 BroOd wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:30 baller wrote:
On July 03 2010 13:50 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Michael Mann is a famous climatologist who has done a lot of research into global warming.

EmeraldSparks you are thinking of Michael Bailey. Michael Mann is the young actor who starred in Arrested Development and Superbad.

No, you are thinking of Michael Cera, Michael Mann is the director of Fahrenheit 911 and Roger & Me.

No, you're thinking of Michael Moore, Michael Mann is Director of Transformers/Bad Boys Series and is a huge fan of slow motion, large explosions and riveting plots.

No, you're thinking of Michael Bay. Michael Mann is the star of Teen Wolf and Back to the Future.


No, you're thinking of Michael Fox. Michael Mann is the late actor from the 50's who played the space visitor Klaatu in the 1951 classic science fiction film The Day the Earth Stood Still.


No, you're thinking of Michael Rennie. Michael Mann is the manager of Dunder Mifflin Scranton.

No, you're thinking of Michael Scott. Michael Mann played for the Chicago Bulls and is generally considered one of the best basketball players of all time.


No you are thinking of Michael Jordan. Michael Mann was a nun-chuck wielding Ninja Turtle.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2093 Posts
July 04 2010 16:12 GMT
#55
On July 05 2010 01:04 JayDee_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 11:49 rich- wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:45 TheMango wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:41 ZaplinG wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:37 JackMcCoy wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:35 Kennigit wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:31 BroOd wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:30 baller wrote:
On July 03 2010 13:50 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Michael Mann is a famous climatologist who has done a lot of research into global warming.

EmeraldSparks you are thinking of Michael Bailey. Michael Mann is the young actor who starred in Arrested Development and Superbad.

No, you are thinking of Michael Cera, Michael Mann is the director of Fahrenheit 911 and Roger & Me.

No, you're thinking of Michael Moore, Michael Mann is Director of Transformers/Bad Boys Series and is a huge fan of slow motion, large explosions and riveting plots.

No, you're thinking of Michael Bay. Michael Mann is the star of Teen Wolf and Back to the Future.


No, you're thinking of Michael Fox. Michael Mann is the late actor from the 50's who played the space visitor Klaatu in the 1951 classic science fiction film The Day the Earth Stood Still.


No, you're thinking of Michael Rennie. Michael Mann is the manager of Dunder Mifflin Scranton.

No, you're thinking of Michael Scott. Michael Mann played for the Chicago Bulls and is generally considered one of the best basketball players of all time.


No you are thinking of Michael Jordan. Michael Mann was a nun-chuck wielding Ninja Turtle.


No, you are thinking of Michelangelo, Michael Mann is one of the world's best selling musician. Now deceased, his claims to fame include albums "Thriller" and "Bad".
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
angelicfolly
Profile Joined June 2010
United States292 Posts
July 04 2010 16:25 GMT
#56
On July 04 2010 20:20 Maji wrote:




I don't think anyone knows why exactly the US comanders choose to invade Iraq so whether or not they achieved their goals is equally unknown. I also don't see what this has got to do with anything.

Honestly I don't really understand the point of your post at all, what exactly are you trying to say?


Which part don't you understand?

I'm taking it being about the similarity of doing something under false pretense. We went into Iraq because of WMDs, turns out the intelligence was wrong. Now the question because of the war being started over something that was wrong to begin with, does that make it right? Since you made the statment "the end justifies the means" you could not have a double standard for other such events.

This also includes whatever reason you think the Us went to war with Iraq. Because the official reason was WMDs. Note also the "commanders" which I'm guessing your referring to the military leadership and not the President, do not have the power to "go to war".

About calling someone "fringe", ever hear of the boy who cried wolf? Know how it ends?

Congress should NOT act like this is impending doom, doing so does more harm then good, and same lesson applies here, with what happen when we went to war with Iraq, fear and vengeance got the best after 9/11 and clouded judgement.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 04 2010 16:47 GMT
#57
This thread is so good, page 1 and 2 are gold.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
July 04 2010 16:49 GMT
#58
On July 05 2010 01:12 Simplistik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 01:04 JayDee_ wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:49 rich- wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:45 TheMango wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:41 ZaplinG wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:37 JackMcCoy wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:35 Kennigit wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:31 BroOd wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:30 baller wrote:
On July 03 2010 13:50 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Michael Mann is a famous climatologist who has done a lot of research into global warming.

EmeraldSparks you are thinking of Michael Bailey. Michael Mann is the young actor who starred in Arrested Development and Superbad.

No, you are thinking of Michael Cera, Michael Mann is the director of Fahrenheit 911 and Roger & Me.

No, you're thinking of Michael Moore, Michael Mann is Director of Transformers/Bad Boys Series and is a huge fan of slow motion, large explosions and riveting plots.

No, you're thinking of Michael Bay. Michael Mann is the star of Teen Wolf and Back to the Future.


No, you're thinking of Michael Fox. Michael Mann is the late actor from the 50's who played the space visitor Klaatu in the 1951 classic science fiction film The Day the Earth Stood Still.


No, you're thinking of Michael Rennie. Michael Mann is the manager of Dunder Mifflin Scranton.

No, you're thinking of Michael Scott. Michael Mann played for the Chicago Bulls and is generally considered one of the best basketball players of all time.


No you are thinking of Michael Jordan. Michael Mann was a nun-chuck wielding Ninja Turtle.


No, you are thinking of Michelangelo, Michael Mann is one of the world's best selling musician. Now deceased, his claims to fame include albums "Thriller" and "Bad".


No, you're thinking of Michael Jackson. Michael Mann was the infamous heavyweight champion who had a habit of biting people's ears off
Helios.Star
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States548 Posts
July 04 2010 16:53 GMT
#59
On July 05 2010 01:49 goldenkrnboi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 01:12 Simplistik wrote:
On July 05 2010 01:04 JayDee_ wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:49 rich- wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:45 TheMango wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:41 ZaplinG wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:37 JackMcCoy wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:35 Kennigit wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:31 BroOd wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:30 baller wrote:
[quote]
EmeraldSparks you are thinking of Michael Bailey. Michael Mann is the young actor who starred in Arrested Development and Superbad.

No, you are thinking of Michael Cera, Michael Mann is the director of Fahrenheit 911 and Roger & Me.

No, you're thinking of Michael Moore, Michael Mann is Director of Transformers/Bad Boys Series and is a huge fan of slow motion, large explosions and riveting plots.

No, you're thinking of Michael Bay. Michael Mann is the star of Teen Wolf and Back to the Future.


No, you're thinking of Michael Fox. Michael Mann is the late actor from the 50's who played the space visitor Klaatu in the 1951 classic science fiction film The Day the Earth Stood Still.


No, you're thinking of Michael Rennie. Michael Mann is the manager of Dunder Mifflin Scranton.

No, you're thinking of Michael Scott. Michael Mann played for the Chicago Bulls and is generally considered one of the best basketball players of all time.


No you are thinking of Michael Jordan. Michael Mann was a nun-chuck wielding Ninja Turtle.


No, you are thinking of Michelangelo, Michael Mann is one of the world's best selling musician. Now deceased, his claims to fame include albums "Thriller" and "Bad".


No, you're thinking of Michael Jackson. Michael Mann was the infamous heavyweight champion who had a habit of biting people's ears off


No, youre thinking of Mike Tyson. Michael Mann are those little oranges you buy in crates like 4 dozen at a time.
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 16:55:52
July 04 2010 16:55 GMT
#60
On July 05 2010 01:53 Helios.Star wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 01:49 goldenkrnboi wrote:
On July 05 2010 01:12 Simplistik wrote:
On July 05 2010 01:04 JayDee_ wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:49 rich- wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:45 TheMango wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:41 ZaplinG wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:37 JackMcCoy wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:35 Kennigit wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:31 BroOd wrote:
[quote]
No, you are thinking of Michael Cera, Michael Mann is the director of Fahrenheit 911 and Roger & Me.

No, you're thinking of Michael Moore, Michael Mann is Director of Transformers/Bad Boys Series and is a huge fan of slow motion, large explosions and riveting plots.

No, you're thinking of Michael Bay. Michael Mann is the star of Teen Wolf and Back to the Future.


No, you're thinking of Michael Fox. Michael Mann is the late actor from the 50's who played the space visitor Klaatu in the 1951 classic science fiction film The Day the Earth Stood Still.


No, you're thinking of Michael Rennie. Michael Mann is the manager of Dunder Mifflin Scranton.

No, you're thinking of Michael Scott. Michael Mann played for the Chicago Bulls and is generally considered one of the best basketball players of all time.


No you are thinking of Michael Jordan. Michael Mann was a nun-chuck wielding Ninja Turtle.


No, you are thinking of Michelangelo, Michael Mann is one of the world's best selling musician. Now deceased, his claims to fame include albums "Thriller" and "Bad".


No, you're thinking of Michael Jackson. Michael Mann was the infamous heavyweight champion who had a habit of biting people's ears off


No, youre thinking of Mike Tyson. Michael Mann are those little oranges you buy in crates like 4 dozen at a time.


No, you're thinking of mandarins. Michael Mann is the quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts. Oh wait, or was it the New York Giants?
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
LAN Event
18:00
Stellar Fest: Day 2
Lambo vs Clem
Scarlett vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs TBD
Zoun vs TBD
ComeBackTV 850
UrsaTVCanada514
IndyStarCraft 176
EnkiAlexander 54
Liquipedia
IPSL
18:00
Ro24 Group B
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
Liquipedia
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
16:55
FSL teamleague IC vs RR week17
Freeedom26
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ROOTCatZ 258
IndyStarCraft 176
BRAT_OK 73
MindelVK 35
Vindicta 27
Railgan 4
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 2443
EffOrt 312
Hyun 87
Backho 57
Rock 43
HiyA 14
Dota 2
qojqva3418
Dendi1240
League of Legends
KnowMe125
Counter-Strike
kRYSTAL_36
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor524
Liquid`Hasu154
Other Games
Beastyqt755
Grubby241
Fuzer 219
ArmadaUGS121
goatrope53
ViBE48
Trikslyr29
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick626
Counter-Strike
PGL107
Other Games
BasetradeTV56
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 61
• davetesta11
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• Airneanach45
• HerbMon 31
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2687
• Ler69
• lizZardDota251
League of Legends
• Nemesis2710
• imaqtpie1291
Other Games
• Shiphtur269
• tFFMrPink 12
Upcoming Events
BSL 21
43m
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs OyAji
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
Replay Cast
3h 43m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
14h 43m
WardiTV Korean Royale
16h 43m
LAN Event
19h 43m
IPSL
22h 43m
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
1d
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
1d 13h
Wardi Open
1d 16h
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.