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hizBALLIN
United States163 Posts
On July 04 2010 21:38 Licmyobelisk wrote: No, you're thinking of May KeeL Lee, Michael Mann is the guy who was a judged that died in 1998. No, you're thinking of Michael Torphy. Michael Mann is the guy who was the last head of state in the USSR. | ||
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angelicfolly
United States292 Posts
On July 04 2010 21:29 KlaCkoN wrote: As I see it the choice is pretty clear cut, act as if the threat of global warming was real and in the extremely unlikely event that it's not then we will have invested tons of money in shit that's extremely useful anyways. Then if you are against the Iraq war DO NOT make a deal out of it. You cannot say it was wrong if everything turns out right. (point to take into account) We have also investment more money into things that would be useless. People like Al Gore would of gotten rich off of fear mongering and lies. A whole industry which happens to want control of counties and the way they do things (to the extent of hampering other developing countries) would of existing because of lie. The scientific community will take a huge hit to credibility also in the eyes of a lot of people. It is not a no-loss situation. | ||
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KlaCkoN
Sweden1661 Posts
On July 04 2010 22:53 angelicfolly wrote: Then if you are against the Iraq war DO NOT make a deal out of it. You cannot say it was wrong if everything turns out right. (point to take into account) We have also investment more money into things that would be useless. People like Al Gore would of gotten rich off of fear mongering and lies. A whole industry which happens to want control of counties and the way they do things (to the extent of hampering other developing countries) would of existing because of lie. The scientific community will take a huge hit to credibility also in the eyes of a lot of people. It is not a no-loss situation. And the consequences if it is true and we do nothing will be many, many times worse. political decisions needs to be made now (well they needed to be made 20 years ago). Gambling the future of our civilization on the off chance that the guys on the fringe are right for once would be criminally stupid. | ||
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angelicfolly
United States292 Posts
On July 04 2010 20:20 Maji wrote: And the consequences if it is true and we do nothing will be many, many times worse. political decisions needs to be made now (well they needed to be made 20 years ago). Gambling the future of our civilization on the off chance that the guys on the fringe are right for once would be criminally stupid. Which one would be worse? Man-made or normal nature? So you want political decisions to made in the heart of the moment instead of considering everything like whats happening now? Didn't such fervor get us into Iraq? Climate gate, has a problem with this. Go after the information not the person. It doesn't work to marginalize somebody by calling them fringe, when one the information may very well be correct, and two credibility has already been questioned by one side. | ||
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Maji
Australia82 Posts
On July 04 2010 21:29 KlaCkoN wrote: Really? Do you have actual proof for that? Of course you don't but if you did you'd have a couple of 1000 of citations within the year and most likely a proffesorship at Harvard to boot, just saying. Yeah there are scientists who don't believe in the current theory of global warming. There are also highly respected matemathicians arguing for the existance of a biggest natural number. Point being that there will always be guys on the fringe, guys who disagree (And that's a very good thing) In 99.9% of cases they are wrong and either forgotten or ridiculed. In the remaing cases they get to name a new era. It is very likely that humans burning hydrocarbons on a large scale has increased the concentration of CO2 in the atmoshpere. It is also very likely that this has lead to and will lead to an increase in the average temperature on earth. It is a fact that _if_ the temperature rises to levels were the ice caps start melting enough for the oceans to rise appcreciably our civalization will be in huge trouble. Imagine cities like New York, Shanghai, all of the Netherlands etc under water. Not to mention that melting glaciers could lead to a huge shortage of drinking water in China (That's a pretty good reason to start a desperation war if there ever was one) If the current theories are completly wrong what's the worst case scenario? We find ourselves having invested billions in energy sources not based on hydrocarbons? Well that's not a particularly bad scenario anyway since we need them for tons of other stuff and just burning them is a huge waste of resources. Not to mention all the other forms of pollution (proven and beyond a doubt real) that comes from running an economy based on burning oil and coal that we will suddenly be rid of. As I see it the choice is pretty clear cut, act as if the threat of global warming was real and in the extremely unlikely event that it's not then we will have invested tons of money in shit that's extremely useful anyways. I said as it been presented which is now also being exposed with the climategate scandal... I will clarify I am not saying that CO2 does not affect atmosphere but what I am saying is that there is more to this than what people being told, the actually statistics for human impact on the gobal warming impact 'climate changing' is actually 14% that leaves a uncounted for 86% in which there is people aware of what the other 86% is and we cant stop it there is nothing we can do to prevent it. Wars will be part of it but so will vistors take opportunitys to preserve life as well as take control themself, bio-organic technology what you call biology is a precious resource it will be harvested before the end that is certain you will see a massive amount of ufo activity in following years in which may be also a contact, I will give you a warning thou the ones who come to make contact do so for their own gain the belevonant races are on a non interference agreement in which does allow preservance of dna 'hence the Ark in your bible storys' what humanity doesnt known is their is greater communitys in which when a civilisation reachs a specific point that if it doesnt destroy itself they can be welcomed into, other wise the planet itself immune system kicks into effect and cleanses herself I do know the events which are to occur and reasons why in which reasons I know these things you would not understand so no point explaining it too you. There is plans against you in which I will not speak about now as it is off topic, but those responsible are as you view the concept 'Evil'. You are killing your world and because of this she is about to elimate your species, you have less time than you think and these cycles and effect of them will be determined by your worlds state of consciousness as it approaches the moment of transition. The creator has sent embassitors of light to try to awaken your world they are incarnated amongst your species known as 'starseeds' your state of mind as a gobal consciousness is what is most important for you because the dimensions barriors will lift for a short period which can allow for a crossing into a higher dimension of the earth in which the earth herself is going to move and leave behind the corspe to be reborn like the phoenix. Your evidence is all through your history in your ancient cultures all prophercys and information contained and past on by all cultures of your world is refering to a specific moment, in bible you call this time the 'Harvest' the return of Christ they are one and the same but as it spoke when Christ came second time it would be as a lion that the fury of the creator would be unleashed on the wicked 'this translations represents what the earth is about to do to you and the opportunity of ascension approaching' Rapture represents a moment in which those ready in correct frequecy 'vibration' can untilize a rare quantum event in which a kinetic wave allows for transferance of consciousness to new vesels waiting in parrarel dimension at higher octave of density dimensions, those left behind will experience as expected the apocalyse which will indeed include war famine desease in which preparations have been occuring hence the growing troubles, those left behind deserve it, it the collection of their multidimensional karma in which was not absolved and must play out in a acelerated experience hence a catalyst is a opportunity of growth. How many make it is open most of your species is distracted, has no ideas of your own reality origin of your being or destination at death, nor do you understand truely what your reality is you have a basis but it is flawed in many ways. Point in revealing this to you now is to show you the issues occuring like gobal warming is part of something bigger it is signs that those with the wisdom will figure out. good luck on your puzzle. | ||
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KlaCkoN
Sweden1661 Posts
And the consequences if it is true and we do nothing will be many, many times worse. political decisions needs to be made now (well they needed to be made 20 years ago). Gambling the future of our civilization on the off chance that the guys on the fringe are right for once would be criminally stupid.[/QUOTE] Which one would be worse? Man-made or normal nature? So you want political decisions to made in the heart of the moment instead of considering everything like whats happening now? Didn't such fervor get us into Iraq? Climate gate, has a problem with this. Go after the information not the person. It doesn't work to marginalize somebody by calling them fringe, when one the information may very well be correct, and two credibility has already been questioned by one side. [/QUOTE] I don't think anyone knows why exactly the US comanders choose to invade Iraq so whether or not they achieved their goals is equally unknown. I also don't see what this has got to do with anything. Honestly I don't really understand the point of your post at all, what exactly are you trying to say? | ||
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KlaCkoN
Sweden1661 Posts
On July 05 2010 00:17 Maji wrote: I said as it been presented which is now also being exposed with the climategate scandal... I will clarify I am not saying that CO2 does not affect atmosphere but what I am saying is that there is more to this than what people being told, the actually statistics for human impact on the gobal warming impact 'climate changing' is actually 14% that leaves a uncounted for 86% in which there is people aware of what the other 86% is and we cant stop it there is nothing we can do to prevent it. .... . Source please. (peer reviewed journal) I honestly don't think there is a consensus of just _how_ much the earth is warming for there to be percentages that specific about anything. | ||
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BottleAbuser
Korea (South)1888 Posts
And yet all we ever hear about is CO2. | ||
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Maji
Australia82 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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KlaCkoN
Sweden1661 Posts
On July 05 2010 00:39 Maji wrote: do your own homework or you never learn, that is the point... perhaps we revealed more to it than you realize let wait and see how many look up all archives later once 'proof' is there reality...It now logged on this forum isnt it... I am not saying that changing to be more greener is a bad thing what I am telling you is it is to late, humanity is about to be tested in a karmatic experience in which nature, alien and humanity will all play a part in. Aka you are just posting random semi religious crap? Good to know. | ||
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BottleAbuser
Korea (South)1888 Posts
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Maji
Australia82 Posts
I ask you this question why is it that certain familys in your world have all the wealth and power while rest of you struggle to makes a living in a system which creates debt constantly so much that you cant ever pay back physically in money what it is writen in electronic debt. You not considered why their is actually only certain familys and groups and a hierachy structure like a pyramind running your world and who is really pulling the strings of the governments cooperations and religions of this world? | ||
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Maji
Australia82 Posts
Hence what we are telling you is this as well magnetic fields are very important to all forms of matter and are also adjusted via infuelences which affect such fields, example is your scientists are curious how evolution functions but do not understand what causes it to occur I do know answer to this as well but that is enough for now. | ||
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JayDee_
548 Posts
On July 04 2010 11:49 rich- wrote: No, you're thinking of Michael Scott. Michael Mann played for the Chicago Bulls and is generally considered one of the best basketball players of all time. No you are thinking of Michael Jordan. Michael Mann was a nun-chuck wielding Ninja Turtle. | ||
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Simplistik
2005 Posts
On July 05 2010 01:04 JayDee_ wrote: No you are thinking of Michael Jordan. Michael Mann was a nun-chuck wielding Ninja Turtle. No, you are thinking of Michelangelo, Michael Mann is one of the world's best selling musician. Now deceased, his claims to fame include albums "Thriller" and "Bad". | ||
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angelicfolly
United States292 Posts
On July 04 2010 20:20 Maji wrote: I don't think anyone knows why exactly the US comanders choose to invade Iraq so whether or not they achieved their goals is equally unknown. I also don't see what this has got to do with anything. Honestly I don't really understand the point of your post at all, what exactly are you trying to say? Which part don't you understand? I'm taking it being about the similarity of doing something under false pretense. We went into Iraq because of WMDs, turns out the intelligence was wrong. Now the question because of the war being started over something that was wrong to begin with, does that make it right? Since you made the statment "the end justifies the means" you could not have a double standard for other such events. This also includes whatever reason you think the Us went to war with Iraq. Because the official reason was WMDs. Note also the "commanders" which I'm guessing your referring to the military leadership and not the President, do not have the power to "go to war". About calling someone "fringe", ever hear of the boy who cried wolf? Know how it ends? Congress should NOT act like this is impending doom, doing so does more harm then good, and same lesson applies here, with what happen when we went to war with Iraq, fear and vengeance got the best after 9/11 and clouded judgement. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
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goldenkrnboi
United States3104 Posts
On July 05 2010 01:12 Simplistik wrote: No, you are thinking of Michelangelo, Michael Mann is one of the world's best selling musician. Now deceased, his claims to fame include albums "Thriller" and "Bad". No, you're thinking of Michael Jackson. Michael Mann was the infamous heavyweight champion who had a habit of biting people's ears off | ||
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Helios.Star
United States548 Posts
On July 05 2010 01:49 goldenkrnboi wrote: No, you're thinking of Michael Jackson. Michael Mann was the infamous heavyweight champion who had a habit of biting people's ears off No, youre thinking of Mike Tyson. Michael Mann are those little oranges you buy in crates like 4 dozen at a time. | ||
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goldenkrnboi
United States3104 Posts
On July 05 2010 01:53 Helios.Star wrote: No, youre thinking of Mike Tyson. Michael Mann are those little oranges you buy in crates like 4 dozen at a time. No, you're thinking of mandarins. Michael Mann is the quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts. Oh wait, or was it the New York Giants? | ||
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