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EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
July 03 2010 04:50 GMT
#1
http://live.psu.edu/story/47378

University Park, Pa. — A panel of leading scholars has cleared a well-known Penn State climate scientist of research misconduct, following a four-month internal investigation by the University.

Penn State Professor Michael Mann has been cleared of any wrongdoing, according to a report of the investigation that was released today (July 1). Mann was under investigation for allegations of research impropriety that surfaced last year after thousands of stolen e-mails were published online. The e-mails were obtained from computer servers at the Climatic Research Unit of the University of East Anglia in England, one of the main repositories of information about climate change.

The panel of leading scholars from various research fields, all tenured professors at Penn State, began its work on March 4 to look at whether Mann had "engaged in, directly or indirectly, any actions that seriously deviated from accepted practices within the academic community for proposing, conducting or reporting research or other scholarly activities." Mann is one of the leading researchers studying climate change.

A full report on the findings of the committee can be viewed at "Final Investigation Report Involving Dr. Michael E. Mann."
Letter from Henry C. Foley, Vice President for Research, Penn State
to Graham B. Spanier, President, Penn State
Letter from Henry C. Foley, Vice President for Research, Penn State
to Michael E. Mann, Professor of Meteorology, Penn State
Letter from Henry C. Foley, Vice President for Research, Penn State
to James Kroll, Head Administrative Investigations, Office of the Inspector General, The National Science Foundation


The background:

Michael Mann is a famous climatologist who has done a lot of research into global warming. He, and everyone else who supports AGW, have been accused of fraud by global warming skeptics. The most notable accusation of fraud was that the "hockey stick" graph was a fraud (which was published in the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate chance report, as well as being well-publicized in Al Gore's documentary An Inconvenient Truth), because it was an artifact of his processing method, or because he and colleagues outright fabricated the data.

Most recently, he was accused of fraud after a hacker hacked into the email archives of the University of East Anglia's Climate Research Unit and released a huge number of emails, some of which were interpreted as being suggestive of fraud or other forms of professional misconduct. Well-known critics of AGW, skeptical and right-wing organizations, and a ridiculous number of netizens claimed many of these emails as being "smoking guns" indicative of fraud by the CRU, Mann, Jones, and a large number of other climate scientists, and reports of this were widely repeated in the media.

In response, each university initiated formal investigations into allegations of fraud. The CRU was cleared in April and now the results of Penn State's investigation into alleged academic misconduct by Michael Mann have come back clear.

Conclusion of the Investigatory Committee as to whether research misconduct occurred:

The Investigatory Committee, after careful review of all available evidence, determined that there is no substance to the allegation against Dr. Michael E. Mann, Professor, Department of Meteorology, The Pennsylvania State University.

More specifically, the Investigatory Committee determined that Dr. Michael E. Mann did not engage in, nor did he participate in, directly or indirectly, any actions that seriously deviated from accepted practices within the academic community for proposing, conducting, or reporting research, or other scholarly activities.

The decision of the Investigatory Committee was unanimous.

Naturally, the skeptics now claim that this, like the UEA's report, was a whitewash.

Further information in the matter is being reported in climate-related blogs. I recommend RealClimate. Your mileage may vary.

Why does this matter? It totally doesn't fucking matter, it's a huge tempest in a teacup (basically what we are seeing is the negation of allegations, which is mostly a non-story unless you were aware of the previous allegations, in which case you might have heard about this) but it is now being discussed around the climate-blog-related-intersphere-thing.
But why?
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
July 03 2010 04:52 GMT
#2
O_o.... PSU.....

I always hold high regards for PSU, even though it's not really top tier.

There is a University Professor at University of Toronto who graduated from PSU.
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
July 03 2010 05:09 GMT
#3
thanks emeraldsparks
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Number41
Profile Joined August 2008
United States130 Posts
July 03 2010 06:29 GMT
#4
Penn State has for a long time had a great meteorology department. I think they used to graduate about 800 students per year in that field.

Unfortunately, a "panel of leading scholars" from PSU clearing one of its own is like BP saying the oil spill has had minimal effect on the gulf. It's going to draw skepticism. I think they also have not cleared Mann of violating certain scientific standards. And if the standards were violated, what's the point of the rest of the work?

I suspect Mann was lazy in his work and record keeping; and regardless of whether his conclusions are correct, his work should be discarded.
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
July 03 2010 23:17 GMT
#5
I wonder what Monckton has to say about this. He is the candle in the darkness of the scientist's agenda.
Underwhelmed
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States207 Posts
July 04 2010 01:41 GMT
#6
On July 04 2010 08:17 Romantic wrote:
I wonder what Monckton has to say about this. He is the candle in the darkness of the scientist's agenda.

THE CANDLE IN THE DARKNESS, THE RALLYING LIGHT AGAINST THE FORCES OF SCIENTISTS' AGENDA, THE LAST HOPE AGAINST THE MENACING SPECTER OF BIG SCIENCE, THE UNSUNG HERO OF THE CRUSADE AGAINST LOWERED CO2 EMISSIONS LOL

I'm sorry, but regardless of whether or not you believe in anthropogenic global climate change, you have to agree this Manichean view is hilariously overblown and over-dramatic. We can do without your characterization of scientists as minions of the forces of darkness.
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
July 04 2010 02:29 GMT
#7
Scientific theories are refuted or proved wrong all the time by other scientists. Not every scientist is a genius that is always 100% right. Global Warming is still being substantiated by thousands of documents every year versus the couple of pdfs and emails you see every so often.
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baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
July 04 2010 02:30 GMT
#8
On July 03 2010 13:50 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Michael Mann is a famous climatologist who has done a lot of research into global warming.

EmeraldSparks you are thinking of Michael Bailey. Michael Mann is the young actor who starred in Arrested Development and Superbad.
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
July 04 2010 02:31 GMT
#9
On July 04 2010 11:30 baller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 13:50 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Michael Mann is a famous climatologist who has done a lot of research into global warming.

EmeraldSparks you are thinking of Michael Bailey. Michael Mann is the young actor who starred in Arrested Development and Superbad.

No, you are thinking of Michael Cera, Michael Mann is the director of Fahrenheit 911 and Roger & Me.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
July 04 2010 02:32 GMT
#10
On July 04 2010 10:41 Underwhelmed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 08:17 Romantic wrote:
I wonder what Monckton has to say about this. He is the candle in the darkness of the scientist's agenda.

THE CANDLE IN THE DARKNESS, THE RALLYING LIGHT AGAINST THE FORCES OF SCIENTISTS' AGENDA, THE LAST HOPE AGAINST THE MENACING SPECTER OF BIG SCIENCE, THE UNSUNG HERO OF THE CRUSADE AGAINST LOWERED CO2 EMISSIONS LOL

I'm sorry, but regardless of whether or not you believe in anthropogenic global climate change, you have to agree this Manichean view is hilariously overblown and over-dramatic. We can do without your characterization of scientists as minions of the forces of darkness.

I was just bumping the thread with a comment I thought people would be angry enough at to post.



Besides, we all know the scientists were involved in the moon landing hoax too.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
July 04 2010 02:35 GMT
#11
On July 04 2010 11:31 BroOd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 11:30 baller wrote:
On July 03 2010 13:50 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Michael Mann is a famous climatologist who has done a lot of research into global warming.

EmeraldSparks you are thinking of Michael Bailey. Michael Mann is the young actor who starred in Arrested Development and Superbad.

No, you are thinking of Michael Cera, Michael Mann is the director of Fahrenheit 911 and Roger & Me.

No, you're thinking of Michael Moore, Michael Mann is Director of Transformers/Bad Boys Series and is a huge fan of slow motion, large explosions and riveting plots.
JackMcCoy
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
165 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 02:37:12
July 04 2010 02:37 GMT
#12
On July 04 2010 11:35 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 11:31 BroOd wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:30 baller wrote:
On July 03 2010 13:50 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Michael Mann is a famous climatologist who has done a lot of research into global warming.

EmeraldSparks you are thinking of Michael Bailey. Michael Mann is the young actor who starred in Arrested Development and Superbad.

No, you are thinking of Michael Cera, Michael Mann is the director of Fahrenheit 911 and Roger & Me.

No, you're thinking of Michael Moore, Michael Mann is Director of Transformers/Bad Boys Series and is a huge fan of slow motion, large explosions and riveting plots.

No, you're thinking of Michael Bay. Michael Mann is the star of Teen Wolf and Back to the Future.
OBJECTION
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
July 04 2010 02:38 GMT
#13
On July 04 2010 11:37 JackMcCoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 11:35 Kennigit wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:31 BroOd wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:30 baller wrote:
On July 03 2010 13:50 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Michael Mann is a famous climatologist who has done a lot of research into global warming.

EmeraldSparks you are thinking of Michael Bailey. Michael Mann is the young actor who starred in Arrested Development and Superbad.

No, you are thinking of Michael Cera, Michael Mann is the director of Fahrenheit 911 and Roger & Me.

No, you're thinking of Michael Moore, Michael Mann is Director of Transformers/Bad Boys Series and is a huge fan of slow motion, large explosions and riveting plots.

No, you're thinking of Michael Bay. Michael Mann is the star of Teen Wolf and Back to the Future.


Holy Crap. You are Jack McCoy!
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ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
July 04 2010 02:41 GMT
#14
On July 04 2010 11:37 JackMcCoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 11:35 Kennigit wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:31 BroOd wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:30 baller wrote:
On July 03 2010 13:50 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Michael Mann is a famous climatologist who has done a lot of research into global warming.

EmeraldSparks you are thinking of Michael Bailey. Michael Mann is the young actor who starred in Arrested Development and Superbad.

No, you are thinking of Michael Cera, Michael Mann is the director of Fahrenheit 911 and Roger & Me.

No, you're thinking of Michael Moore, Michael Mann is Director of Transformers/Bad Boys Series and is a huge fan of slow motion, large explosions and riveting plots.

No, you're thinking of Michael Bay. Michael Mann is the star of Teen Wolf and Back to the Future.


No, you're thinking of Michael Fox. Michael Mann is the late actor from the 50's who played the space visitor Klaatu in the 1951 classic science fiction film The Day the Earth Stood Still.
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 02:45:23
July 04 2010 02:44 GMT
#15
On July 04 2010 11:38 illu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 11:37 JackMcCoy wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:35 Kennigit wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:31 BroOd wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:30 baller wrote:
On July 03 2010 13:50 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Michael Mann is a famous climatologist who has done a lot of research into global warming.

EmeraldSparks you are thinking of Michael Bailey. Michael Mann is the young actor who starred in Arrested Development and Superbad.

No, you are thinking of Michael Cera, Michael Mann is the director of Fahrenheit 911 and Roger & Me.

No, you're thinking of Michael Moore, Michael Mann is Director of Transformers/Bad Boys Series and is a huge fan of slow motion, large explosions and riveting plots.

No, you're thinking of Michael Bay. Michael Mann is the star of Teen Wolf and Back to the Future.


Holy Crap. You are Jack McCoy!

No, you're thinking of Jack Johnson. Jack McCoy is a fictional character on NBC's critically acclaimed series, Law & Order.
Moktira is da bomb
TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
July 04 2010 02:45 GMT
#16
On July 04 2010 11:41 ZaplinG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 11:37 JackMcCoy wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:35 Kennigit wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:31 BroOd wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:30 baller wrote:
On July 03 2010 13:50 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Michael Mann is a famous climatologist who has done a lot of research into global warming.

EmeraldSparks you are thinking of Michael Bailey. Michael Mann is the young actor who starred in Arrested Development and Superbad.

No, you are thinking of Michael Cera, Michael Mann is the director of Fahrenheit 911 and Roger & Me.

No, you're thinking of Michael Moore, Michael Mann is Director of Transformers/Bad Boys Series and is a huge fan of slow motion, large explosions and riveting plots.

No, you're thinking of Michael Bay. Michael Mann is the star of Teen Wolf and Back to the Future.


No, you're thinking of Michael Fox. Michael Mann is the late actor from the 50's who played the space visitor Klaatu in the 1951 classic science fiction film The Day the Earth Stood Still.


No, you're thinking of Michael Rennie. Michael Mann is the manager of Dunder Mifflin Scranton.
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baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
July 04 2010 02:48 GMT
#17
On July 04 2010 11:44 dcberkeley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 11:38 illu wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:37 JackMcCoy wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:35 Kennigit wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:31 BroOd wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:30 baller wrote:
On July 03 2010 13:50 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Michael Mann is a famous climatologist who has done a lot of research into global warming.

EmeraldSparks you are thinking of Michael Bailey. Michael Mann is the young actor who starred in Arrested Development and Superbad.

No, you are thinking of Michael Cera, Michael Mann is the director of Fahrenheit 911 and Roger & Me.

No, you're thinking of Michael Moore, Michael Mann is Director of Transformers/Bad Boys Series and is a huge fan of slow motion, large explosions and riveting plots.

No, you're thinking of Michael Bay. Michael Mann is the star of Teen Wolf and Back to the Future.


Holy Crap. You are Jack McCoy!

No, you're thinking of Jack Johnson. Jack McCoy is a fictional character on NBC's critically acclaimed series, Law & Order.

No, you're thinking of Jack Mason. Jack McCoy is the serial killer who terrorized London in the late 1800s.
rich-
Profile Joined February 2008
United States134 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 02:50:07
July 04 2010 02:49 GMT
#18
On July 04 2010 11:45 TheMango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 11:41 ZaplinG wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:37 JackMcCoy wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:35 Kennigit wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:31 BroOd wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:30 baller wrote:
On July 03 2010 13:50 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Michael Mann is a famous climatologist who has done a lot of research into global warming.

EmeraldSparks you are thinking of Michael Bailey. Michael Mann is the young actor who starred in Arrested Development and Superbad.

No, you are thinking of Michael Cera, Michael Mann is the director of Fahrenheit 911 and Roger & Me.

No, you're thinking of Michael Moore, Michael Mann is Director of Transformers/Bad Boys Series and is a huge fan of slow motion, large explosions and riveting plots.

No, you're thinking of Michael Bay. Michael Mann is the star of Teen Wolf and Back to the Future.


No, you're thinking of Michael Fox. Michael Mann is the late actor from the 50's who played the space visitor Klaatu in the 1951 classic science fiction film The Day the Earth Stood Still.


No, you're thinking of Michael Rennie. Michael Mann is the manager of Dunder Mifflin Scranton.

No, you're thinking of Michael Scott. Michael Mann played for the Chicago Bulls and is generally considered one of the best basketball players of all time.
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10831 Posts
July 04 2010 02:51 GMT
#19
On July 04 2010 11:48 baller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 11:44 dcberkeley wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:38 illu wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:37 JackMcCoy wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:35 Kennigit wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:31 BroOd wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:30 baller wrote:
On July 03 2010 13:50 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Michael Mann is a famous climatologist who has done a lot of research into global warming.

EmeraldSparks you are thinking of Michael Bailey. Michael Mann is the young actor who starred in Arrested Development and Superbad.

No, you are thinking of Michael Cera, Michael Mann is the director of Fahrenheit 911 and Roger & Me.

No, you're thinking of Michael Moore, Michael Mann is Director of Transformers/Bad Boys Series and is a huge fan of slow motion, large explosions and riveting plots.

No, you're thinking of Michael Bay. Michael Mann is the star of Teen Wolf and Back to the Future.


Holy Crap. You are Jack McCoy!

No, you're thinking of Jack Johnson. Jack McCoy is a fictional character on NBC's critically acclaimed series, Law & Order.

No, you're thinking of Jack Mason. Jack McCoy is the serial killer who terrorized London in the late 1800s.

No, you're thinking of Jack the Ripper. Jack McCoy is the lead singer of Tenacious D and star of films like School of Rock.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 02:56:03
July 04 2010 02:53 GMT
#20
On July 04 2010 11:51 BroOd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 11:48 baller wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:44 dcberkeley wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:38 illu wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:37 JackMcCoy wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:35 Kennigit wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:31 BroOd wrote:
On July 04 2010 11:30 baller wrote:
On July 03 2010 13:50 EmeraldSparks wrote:
Michael Mann is a famous climatologist who has done a lot of research into global warming.

EmeraldSparks you are thinking of Michael Bailey. Michael Mann is the young actor who starred in Arrested Development and Superbad.

No, you are thinking of Michael Cera, Michael Mann is the director of Fahrenheit 911 and Roger & Me.

No, you're thinking of Michael Moore, Michael Mann is Director of Transformers/Bad Boys Series and is a huge fan of slow motion, large explosions and riveting plots.

No, you're thinking of Michael Bay. Michael Mann is the star of Teen Wolf and Back to the Future.


Holy Crap. You are Jack McCoy!

No, you're thinking of Jack Johnson. Jack McCoy is a fictional character on NBC's critically acclaimed series, Law & Order.

No, you're thinking of Jack Mason. Jack McCoy is the serial killer who terrorized London in the late 1800s.

No, you're thinking of Jack the Ripper. Jack McCoy is the lead singer of Tenacious D and star of films like School of Rock.

No, you're thinking of Jack Black. Jack McCoy is a doctor who survived Oceanic Flight 815
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