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Obsidian
United States350 Posts
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dybydx
Canada1764 Posts
i think ur assumptions are taking it too far to assume talibans can "just get the nukes from Pakistan". most countries other than US/Russia only have a handful of nukes anyways. still, world wide opinion is, the USA is really fucking up this war on terror and WMD witch-hunt. | ||
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Obsidian
United States350 Posts
I don't think Pakistan would hand nukes over, that's silly. But there was some mention that they might loose control of the Silos that contain them, and granted I doubt the Taliban would have had technical knowledge to make use of that, the very idea is still rather alarming. | ||
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Tempora
United States78 Posts
On June 13 2010 02:46 Antiochus wrote: I would like to say that I was a surprised but i really wasn't after all there has been talk about doing this for a while now. + Show Spoiler +  i have absolutley nothing to say about your post. but i believe your quote is possibly the funniest i have seen on TL. kudos. | ||
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wadadde
270 Posts
On July 27 2010 00:13 zatic wrote: Well you are definitely German by your posting. I don't care what people were saying in 2004 and I don't know why you think it is relevant. The US is not going to attack Iran any time soon, and Mr. Hayder knows that well enough. If you disagree and think they will go ahead fine, but unless war actually breaks out I'll be right and you'll be wrong. As to what you can post and what not: Just don't make one liner posts. You can post a link to a Youtube video along with your own post, just don't post nothing but a link. sigh I posted a youtube video and you only looked at one aspect of it£. I was not trying to prove anything, but if you look at his arguments then you could have checked whether or not his facts are genuine facts and drawn your own conclusions. Personall, I can't imagine full scale invasion by the US, but I can imagine Israel striking Iran in a major way and the US and allies being ready to deal with any retaliatory measures by Iran. I'm not at all convinced that the US government actually believes that Iran is (still) developing any nukes. The mere fact that Iran is buying more defensive and probably also offensive weapons could be a reason for the US to make a move. Iran is not allowed to be strong in the region. The US only attack weak nations. That's official policy since forever. I wouldn't discount what the guy was saying about alliances being formed. The US is making moves while it can still do so with impunity. In 30 years time this will no longer be possible, and it won't be because the US helped build up international order, or at least an effective way of dealing with agressors. The legacy is one of mass murder, terrorism and assassinations. This fact should not be controversial and the conversations here would be a little more constructive if we could all agree on the well-documented historic record (=the basics), and not get lost in the US media talking points and neo-con-style crazy talk.. | ||
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love1another
United States1844 Posts
1.) People go on stupid tangents that should be saved for PMs. 2.) Nobody reads what anybody else writes and it becomes a finger-in-ear "my posts are more inflammatory than yours." 3.) There is insufficient love. That said, nukes are like giant teddy bears of great affection and should be launched to bring warmth and delight to all corners of globe, including Antarctica, which is a way better continent than Europe, Asia, or the Americas. | ||
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ImFromPortugal
Portugal1368 Posts
Crazy stuff going on people ~~ but do not fear, the global police is on their way... "U.S. Navy Investigating Report of Persian Gulf Tanker Attack" July 28, 2010 An explosion, possibly caused by an attack, damaged an oil tanker Wednesday near the mouth of the Persian Gulf, Japanese shipping company Mitsui O.S.K. Lines said. The company said the blast on its tanker M. Star caused one minor injury but did not cause an oil leak. The ship was damaged due to "an explosion from a suspected attack from the outside" in the waters off Oman, near the strategically important Strait of Hormuz, the company said. The strait leads into the Persian Gulf past Oman and Iran, and is a transit point for about 40 percent of oil shipped by tankers worldwide. "We believe it's highly likely an attack," Mitsui spokeswoman Eiko Mizuno said. "There is nothing that can explode in that part of the vessel." Source | ||
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angelicfolly
United States292 Posts
On July 28 2010 20:10 ImFromPortugal wrote: UPDATE: Crazy stuff going on people ~~ but do not fear, the global police is on their way... "U.S. Navy Investigating Report of Persian Gulf Tanker Attack" July 28, 2010 An explosion, possibly caused by an attack, damaged an oil tanker Wednesday near the mouth of the Persian Gulf, Japanese shipping company Mitsui O.S.K. Lines said. The company said the blast on its tanker M. Star caused one minor injury but did not cause an oil leak. The ship was damaged due to "an explosion from a suspected attack from the outside" in the waters off Oman, near the strategically important Strait of Hormuz, the company said. The strait leads into the Persian Gulf past Oman and Iran, and is a transit point for about 40 percent of oil shipped by tankers worldwide. "We believe it's highly likely an attack," Mitsui spokeswoman Eiko Mizuno said. "There is nothing that can explode in that part of the vessel." Source I really wouldn't be surprised, but not in a good way. gunboats threatening US ships http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0739039120080107 15 British navy personal captured http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6484279.stm It would really be good If you wouldn't put ideology spin, if your going to report news. | ||
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ImFromPortugal
Portugal1368 Posts
It would really be good If you wouldn't put ideology spin, if your going to report news. [/QUOTE] ideology spin? it was a joke xD kakakakak | ||
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angelicfolly
United States292 Posts
On July 28 2010 21:17 ImFromPortugal wrote: ideology spin? it was a joke xD kakakakak Internet does not allow for context in such a blanket statement. How about letting such things be known it's a joke i.e. maybe a smiley face. I say this because when you do things like that, you will put readers off. | ||
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Lennon
United Kingdom2275 Posts
On June 13 2010 02:35 SpartiK1S wrote: wait wait wait, what the FU$%? "If America has nukes, EVERYONE GETS NUKES"????? You are either a teenager that doesn't understand world politics, or else a , god i can't say it without it getting deleted. What you are suggesting is the equivalent of giving a DOOMSDAY DEVICE to someone like a highschool bully. WHILE HE IS STILL IN HIGHSCHOOL! You are either an Iranian praying for America's downfall or else completely noob and retarded at world relations. We WORKED to get where we are in this world. We Americans, through fu$%ing sweat, blood, and death of WW2 saved the world from fascism, and discovered the most deadly weapon in the history of EVERYTHING on the way. Thats like winning a starcraft game, and then saying, bah, im too greedy, i should give the guy all my minerals and 3 hours to build while i go look at porn and lose. Just handing that treasure over to third world countries and such would result in EVERYONE DYING. Nigeria-"Hm, those neighbors we have, the Nigers, are stealing water from our well. NUKE THE FUCKERS!" Niger- "Oh SHIT! RETALIATE!" the REST OF AFRICA-"NUKES ARE FLYING! SHIT! EVERYONE RETALIATE!" Thats just a TASTE of something that could happen. No matter how good you are anyone deems you at computer games, world political relations takes more than "pro starcraft apm" to master and think about correctly. User was temp banned for this post. Tell poster he doesn't understand world relations. Relate world relations to StarCraft. | ||
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Blanke
Canada180 Posts
Apparently US Congress is trying to pass bill HR 1553, which would give Israel the green light to engage Iran, obviously with American support. I never thought such an insane idea was up for debate to begin with, but if this bill gets passed, Zatic may just have to eat his own words. Link to video: http://www.youtube.com/user/PropheticSeer#p/u/28/KeMIOdR0Zdg | ||
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muse5187
1125 Posts
On July 28 2010 20:35 angelicfolly wrote: I really wouldn't be surprised, but not in a good way. gunboats threatening US ships http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0739039120080107 15 British navy personal captured http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6484279.stm It would really be good If you wouldn't put ideology spin, if your going to report news. "I'm coming at you... you will explode in a couple minutes." | ||
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tehemperorer
United States2183 Posts
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thesighter
United States347 Posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sa'dah_insurgency | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On July 31 2010 06:48 tehemperorer wrote: Someone has to be in control, and because humans are flawed, their systems and nations are flawed. There is no perfect way for the world to be at peace and have humans still living in it, but ask yourself this: No matter what the reigning ideology is in America, it remains a country of laws and rules. Would you rather have a nation rooted in jurisprudence as a superpower, or a nation rooted in a particular religion? One word: Lobotomies. | ||
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Dylancool2
81 Posts
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ImFromPortugal
Portugal1368 Posts
Iran official: We have obtained the S-300 missile system Fars news agency says Tehran signs deal with Belarus after Russia reportedly refused to provide Iran with the surface-to-air system over recent UN sanctions. By The Associated Press and Haaretz Service Source | ||
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
I don't think anything short of nuclear weapons will help them from the wrath of the US military, though. | ||
zatic
Zurich15355 Posts
On July 31 2010 04:55 Blanke wrote: Zatic had me convinced earlier that an attack was foolhardy and would never materialize itself beyond empty threats, but upon discovering this recent video on Russia Today, I'm starting to feel concerned again. Apparently US Congress is trying to pass bill HR 1553, which would give Israel the green light to engage Iran, obviously with American support. I never thought such an insane idea was up for debate to begin with, but if this bill gets passed, Zatic may just have to eat his own words. Link to video: http://www.youtube.com/user/PropheticSeer#p/u/28/KeMIOdR0Zdg Congress also passed the American Service Members Protection Act to green light a US invasion of the Netherlands in 2002 after the International Criminal Court was established in Den Haag. A pretty insane idea if you ask me. Still in addition to my claim the US won't attack Iran I state they won't attack the Netherlands any time soon either, even though the bill has already passed Congress 8 years ago. I will gladly eat my word when the cruise missiles start flying. | ||
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