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On January 12 2010 12:20 cHaNg-sTa wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 12:15 overpool wrote:On January 12 2010 11:03 BanZu wrote:On January 12 2010 11:01 overpool wrote:
Does this mean that about 24 million female infants were killed? 12 million How do you figure that? With the one-child per family policy, this assumes about 12 million families aborted the fetus after discovering it was a girl so they can get a boy the next time around. So assuming 50/50 chance at a boy, without abortion, it would be 12 million boys and 12 millions girls, but those 12 million girls were aborted to get 12 million additional boys = 24 million more men. Though, this doesn't take into account the fact that those 12 million families that got girls could get girls again on the second, third, and so on, attempt. So it's probably a lot more than just 12 million.
Maybe I'm doing the math wrong, but:
If n child-bearing families decide to abort until they get a boy, there will be ~n female abortions (basic probability). Now for a population p, you'll have b = (p - n)/2 + n boys and g = p - b girls, resulting in a boy-girl skew of b - g = n.
Therefore, for a boy-girl skew of 24 million, you would need 24 million families deciding to abort until they get a boy, which would result in 24 million female abortions/infanticides/overseas adoptions/whatever.
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Ignoring the fact that in western countries without infanticide there are more women than men.
And yes, you're doing the maths wrong. To get 24 million more men than women you need 12 million births of boys rather than girls. So first you take 12 million abortions/infanticides and that gives you on average 6 million boys. Then you take 6 million more abortions/infanticides for the ones who got girls on their second attempt. That in turn gives you 3 million boys. Then you have 3 million more abortions/infanticides of girls to get rid of them and clear the way for the next attempt of which 1.5 million are boys. And that still leaves 1.5 million girls who need to be killed like their elder 3 sisters. And we've already had 21 million infanticides to get to this point.
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On January 12 2010 12:25 scintilliaSD wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 11:29 StorkHwaiting wrote:On January 12 2010 11:13 Jibba wrote:
Not to be a downer on Inc's peepee party, but imbalanced population ratios are a security issue. Overabundance of poor, single males likely leads to greater crime and instability which, depending on the political context, can fuel extremism. Think of the Foot in the first Ninja Turtles movie. WoW wasn't out yet during TMNJ. China has no problem with single lonely guys. It just means 12 million more female night elf rogues. Haha, that's funny because WoW has been banned in China for like 2 years now.
It is not.
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On January 12 2010 12:33 Jyvblamo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 12:25 scintilliaSD wrote:On January 12 2010 11:29 StorkHwaiting wrote:On January 12 2010 11:13 Jibba wrote:
Not to be a downer on Inc's peepee party, but imbalanced population ratios are a security issue. Overabundance of poor, single males likely leads to greater crime and instability which, depending on the political context, can fuel extremism. Think of the Foot in the first Ninja Turtles movie. WoW wasn't out yet during TMNJ. China has no problem with single lonely guys. It just means 12 million more female night elf rogues. Haha, that's funny because WoW has been banned in China for like 2 years now. Imma call you out on this one...
Not by two years, not even close, but banned it was:
http://gamersyndrome.com/2010/online-games/online-news/chinese-wow-ban-be-lifted/
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Enjoy your sausage festivities China.
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On January 12 2010 13:01 KwarK wrote:
Ignoring the fact that in western countries without infanticide there are more women than men.
And yes, you're doing the maths wrong. To get 24 million more men than women you need 12 million births of boys rather than girls. So first you take 12 million abortions/infanticides and that gives you on average 6 million boys. Then you take 6 million more abortions/infanticides for the ones who got girls on their second attempt. That in turn gives you 3 million boys. Then you have 3 million more abortions/infanticides of girls to get rid of them and clear the way for the next attempt of which 1.5 million are boys. And that still leaves 1.5 million girls who need to be killed like their elder 3 sisters. And we've already had 21 million infanticides to get to this point.
Yes...your infinite sum converges on 24 million abortions/infanticides which was my answer. What's the problem?
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On January 12 2010 11:19 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 11:01 overpool wrote:
Does this mean that about 24 million female infants were killed? fetuses, not infants
Agree. The fact that it has life or not is still debatable, yet it's called a fetus no matter what  .
EDIT: iNc takes thread once again...
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On January 12 2010 13:13 Archaic wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 11:19 Liquid`NonY wrote:On January 12 2010 11:01 overpool wrote:
Does this mean that about 24 million female infants were killed? fetuses, not infants Agree. The fact that it has life or not is still debatable, yet it's called a fetus no matter what .
Unless it's an infant.
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On January 12 2010 13:20 overpool wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 13:13 Archaic wrote:On January 12 2010 11:19 Liquid`NonY wrote:On January 12 2010 11:01 overpool wrote:
Does this mean that about 24 million female infants were killed? fetuses, not infants Agree. The fact that it has life or not is still debatable, yet it's called a fetus no matter what . Unless it's an infant.
Why would you go and post such a horrible link right before I go to sleep T_T. It really is sad though...
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On January 12 2010 13:01 KwarK wrote:
Ignoring the fact that in western countries without infanticide there are more women than men.
That's because girl babies die less often statistically.
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On January 12 2010 13:24 illu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 13:01 KwarK wrote:
Ignoring the fact that in western countries without infanticide there are more women than men.
That's because girl babies die less often statistically.
which in turn means that once you made it through the first year as a male baby, your life expectancy isn't that much shorter than that of your sister anymore 
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On January 12 2010 11:29 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 11:13 Jibba wrote:
Not to be a downer on Inc's peepee party, but imbalanced population ratios are a security issue. Overabundance of poor, single males likely leads to greater crime and instability which, depending on the political context, can fuel extremism. Think of the Foot in the first Ninja Turtles movie. WoW wasn't out yet during TMNJ. China has no problem with single lonely guys. It just means 12 million more female night elf rogues.
Lol
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That has been a long tradition in China among some of the ethnic tribes. It's been a common practice for brothers to share one wife in many of the tribes in Sichuan and Yunnan province. Forget their names and too tired to look it up right now :\
Think it's polyamory when it's a woman with several men tho rite? Or does polygamy go both ways?
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Doesn't work so well with multiple men to one woman. It's hard enough to get sex sometimes when it's one to one
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Multiple men to one woman... definitely weird
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On January 12 2010 13:37 StorkHwaiting wrote:That has been a long tradition in China among some of the ethnic tribes. It's been a common practice for brothers to share one wife in many of the tribes in Sichuan and Yunnan province. Forget their names and too tired to look it up right now :\ Think it's polyamory when it's a woman with several men tho rite? Or does polygamy go both ways?
polygamy is the general form of having more than one spouse
polygyny = man with >1 wife
polyandry = woman with >1 husband
polyamory means having more than one intimate relationship at the same time; in facebook terms, 'open relationship' kind of thing
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Wouldn't like to be a chinese man when that happens.. Wouldn't like to be an unborn girl in china either.. But when you do get born, you are getting laid for sure.
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EPT
