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FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
January 29 2004 21:43 GMT
#121
-_-+ aigo shim shim he ra -_-;
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33714 Posts
January 29 2004 23:12 GMT
#122
On January 29 2004 09:30 S.Q)Seven wrote:
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On January 29 2004 09:16 dronebabo wrote:
and yet a korean singer (boa) dominates japans music chart. -_-

also, if u listen closely, u'll find that chinese people talk a bit faster than koreans do.

chinese music is no thx


Boa is a group isn't it? Duvet from Lain was excellent or i am just influenced because i loved the anime?


they are different Boas. There is a singer named Boa who sung the theme for serial experiments lain, the Boa everyone is talking about ont the thread is a korean pop star.
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XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
January 30 2004 02:23 GMT
#123
All I know is that it's damn hard to learn to read and write Chinese. You basically have to memorize every word in the language, and for the most part, there's no relevancy or way to tell what a word means just by looking at it. Japanese has a pseudo-alphabet system, which makes it a bit easier (for me at least) until you hit the characters they took from the Chinese language.

Kpop is fun stuff. A lot of their stuff imitates American music, but then again the same can be said for a lot of Jpop and Cpop. For me, sometimes it's just cool to listen to music that you can't understand the lyrics of. I've been listening to Kpop since my HS friend introduced me to Turbo, HOT, SES, etc. Now a good 1/3 of my MP3s are Kpop, go figure.
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Mydnyte
Profile Joined October 2003
3306 Posts
January 30 2004 02:28 GMT
#124
Alot of kpop is actually a really nice smooth sounding melody. Like the love songs by Fly to the Sky. ^^

http://www.arirangtv.com/english/programs/pops_in_seoul/weekly_top10.asp check out these songs: Just One Night, Without your love, and Missing you.

015b_forever
Profile Joined November 2003
Korea (South)19 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-01-30 03:27:24
January 30 2004 03:24 GMT
#125
On January 29 2004 04:14 Chibi[OWNS] wrote:
Hi! I'm just wondering if there are any very easily noticeable differences between Korean and Chinese language.

I can recognise the difference between Japanese and Chinese well enough, but I've no idea where to start for Korean.

Basically, if I hear some Koreans talking nearby I want to recognise this! Any clues?

Thanks!



I am a Korean, so I don't know much about Chinese,
but I think there are easily noticeable differences between Korean and Chinese when you hear them.

First there is no 'F' sound in Korean, but there is in Chinese.
So Koreans pronounce 'Fine' like 'Pine', 'Phone' like 'Pon'.

And Chinese(Mandarin) has a lot of '~r' in the end of words.
(especially in Beijing(Peking) dialect)
But Korean has no '~r' sound.

(If you listen to OGN or MSL carefully, you'll see they pronounce 'Star Craft' like 'Sta Crapt', or 'Forge' like 'Poge'.)

Mandarin ends like 'ba', 'ban' or 'bang'. only three ways.
But Korean has more variable final consonants.
Like 'ba' or 'bag', 'ban', 'bad', 'bal', 'bam', 'bab', 'bang'.

Also Chinese has four tones, so it sounds more variable. (rising and falling, high and low)
But there is no tone in Korean, so it sounds flatter. (except dialects)

This is a little hard to describe in letters.
The best way is that a Korean and Chinese person speak to you in person.
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dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-01-30 04:13:40
January 30 2004 04:02 GMT
#126
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FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
January 30 2004 04:13 GMT
#127
Yeah it doesn't work -_-a
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
January 30 2004 04:14 GMT
#128
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33714 Posts
January 30 2004 04:16 GMT
#129
On January 30 2004 11:23 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
All I know is that it's damn hard to learn to read and write Chinese. You basically have to memorize every word in the language, and for the most part, there's no relevancy or way to tell what a word means just by looking at it. Japanese has a pseudo-alphabet system, which makes it a bit easier (for me at least) until you hit the characters they took from the Chinese language.

Kpop is fun stuff. A lot of their stuff imitates American music, but then again the same can be said for a lot of Jpop and Cpop. For me, sometimes it's just cool to listen to music that you can't understand the lyrics of. I've been listening to Kpop since my HS friend introduced me to Turbo, HOT, SES, etc. Now a good 1/3 of my MP3s are Kpop, go figure.


if you look at the origins to all the chinese characters, it's not so hard as memorizing each character as something on it's own. To simplify a lot, there are some 500++(or I may be completely wrong about this number, it's just much less than the total amount of chinese characters) basic forms which will make up other characters.
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dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
January 30 2004 04:20 GMT
#130
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dork
Profile Joined September 2003
Canada2207 Posts
January 30 2004 04:35 GMT
#131
cause he has snolax powers
staring at the world through the rear view
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
January 30 2004 04:38 GMT
#132
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
January 30 2004 06:02 GMT
#133
On January 29 2004 05:35 Chibi[OWNS] wrote:
japanese is very easy^^

also easy to recognise because the words stand out greatly.

what i meant was, when i hear korean and chinese i just hear a mix of himlongchooooweeesamsu, and cant recognise a difference^^

i was reading about skorean culture the other night 'cause i'm thinking of visiting for english teaching. it seems very alien and i'm swayed more toward japan because i can relate to it better and wont feel lost. for example, i read that korean friends aren't allowed to call each other by their first names (although they have nicknames i think?); that you're never allowed to give or receive things with your left hand, etc. very strange to me!--


Uh, no? You call people by first names and nick names and whatever. And Chinese and Korean sound completely different. Korean is a much more acoustic language like Japanese while Chinese has a much more slurred and gluttoral sound. I am also studying linguistics and it's sorta hard to explain but to put it simply, Korean and Japanese sound similar in that they are acoustic. They are seperate languages but its like how Italian and Spanish is. Culturally, J C and K are pretty similar. Afterall, the three have a pretty intertwined history. I'd say J and K are more similar cuz their pop culture tends to influence each other far more than Chinese pop culture influences the other two.
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otherOne
Profile Joined February 2003
United States135 Posts
January 30 2004 06:26 GMT
#134
I don't think you can compare Japanese to Korean like you can with Italian and Spanish. The latter languages originated from Latin (i.e., the so-called Romance languages) and there are similarities between the languages.

On the other hand, Kroean and Japanese are a lot different in my opinion. I speak Japanese fluently, but have a Chinese background (parents are Chinese, so I hear it spoken daily) and almost all of the asian girl population in my school is Korean, so I get to hear everything.

I agree in that pronounciation-wise, Japanese and Korean are 'rougher' compared to Chinese. I also heard how Korean is not that hard...although personally, I'm a sucker with languages, and doubt I could speak anything fluently if I wasn't exposed to it 24/7 since childhood =]

the writing system for Korean is much different compared to Japan - China, because unlike the latter, Korean doesn't share any characters. On the other hand, Japanese borrowed a few thousand of the Chinese characters, so you can recognize some of it (even though the kanjis differ slightly).

Chinese may not be hard to speak (I have no idea on this), but the reading / writing system is probably, in my opinion, the hardest to master in all the languages. There are countless characters, and a lot of those characters are a pain to memorize & write. Japanese has far less, and I still find myself having trouble with them =[
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-_-Zzz
Profile Joined January 2004
Korea (South)62 Posts
January 30 2004 19:38 GMT
#135
On January 30 2004 01:46 -zX-Ravage- wrote:
man you guys are dumb

-_-Zzz is just assem in disguise


hey~ what wrong did I do to you ?

-_-??? -_-??? -_-?????????
ppO ppO ^3^
Mydnyte
Profile Joined October 2003
3306 Posts
January 30 2004 19:39 GMT
#136
He was trying to tell joke.
But it wasn't really that funny.
Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
January 30 2004 19:57 GMT
#137
On January 29 2004 05:30 -_-Zzz wrote:
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On January 29 2004 05:25 Kacas wrote:
korean is easy
chinese is hard +_+
japanese im dont have an idea
but dont like japanese language
=D

in fact, im brazilian, but my parents are chinese
anyway, i listen a lot to korean language, coz of starcraft and k-pop, so, there are words there i can even translate
=D ( a little )

oh~! u know hyo-lee???

she is so sexy-_-!

btw,,,kacas! are u korean???? or not??

I Love Hyori Lee =* icq: 41760400 / msn: kayen_chn at hotm
Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
January 30 2004 20:07 GMT
#138
On January 30 2004 13:02 dronebabo wrote:
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On January 30 2004 11:28 ChoboKen wrote:
Alot of kpop is actually a really nice smooth sounding melody. Like the love songs by Fly to the Sky. ^^

http://www.arirangtv.com/english/programs/pops_in_seoul/weekly_top10.asp check out these songs: Just One Night, Without your love, and Missing you.


ahaha i watched that show once. it's pretty good
how do u open those songs btw? i can't seem to open them after dling


LOL
i won a CD on they special song request in the beggining of this year
u can see my name on they list of lucker viewers (Ka Yen Tso) =P
btw
c-pop is differente +_+ almost inexistent T___t
j-pop dont like it
k-pop the cutest -> lots of cute singers ^^ i would like to see finkl together again...maybe this year? ^^
and english is the easiest language to learn
^^
I Love Hyori Lee =* icq: 41760400 / msn: kayen_chn at hotm
dronebabo
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
10866 Posts
January 31 2004 11:18 GMT
#139
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Dragon_NP
Profile Joined April 2003
38 Posts
January 31 2004 15:22 GMT
#140
just goto www.solid07.net and click on musci to listent o k-pop... Personal Favorite BoA, Baby V.O.X, and Fly to Sky. Chinese music is Jay Chow, David Tao, S.H.E and old fasioned Andy Law.
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