ToD and Rotterdam casting while they play would be a novel concept. It would take away from the competitive scene but it may add entertainment to the mix. It's funny when, at times, the two commentators actually shine greater than the event at hand.

SoleSteeler

Canada5459 Posts

July 08 2009 06:36 GMT

#322

ToD should fuck up Evenstar in a show match.

LuckyOne

266 Posts

July 08 2009 08:19 GMT

#323

On July 06 2009 05:31 neustadt wrote:
It starts from http://flvdn.gomtv.net/viewer/1372.flv

thx

Dgtl

Canada889 Posts

July 08 2009 08:38 GMT

#324

I really like ToD and Roterdams casting. They make a great pair. I might even venture to say a better pair than SDM and tasteless :O

RyanS

United States620 Posts

July 08 2009 15:53 GMT

#325

On July 08 2009 17:38 Dgtl wrote:
I really like ToD and Roterdams casting. They make a great pair. I might even venture to say a better pair than SDM and tasteless :O

I agree. When Tastless and SDM first started at WCG 2008 together it was fresh and original. Now when I watch it seems like they say the same analysis, tell the same stories(SDM disconnecting against the guy who happened to be sitting across from him, Tasteless having to play his brother in WCG final, etc. Hear all these 4+ times) and their jokes seem old and played out. ToD and Rotterdam have new things to say every cast.

Goshawk.

United Kingdom5338 Posts

July 09 2009 11:43 GMT

#326

Is that because we've only been listening to ToD and Rotter for a relatively short amount of time? ToD's BM whine is starting to become a bit annoying.

If you guys wanna see an epic BM go here:
http://www.wcreplays.com/replay.php?m=View&rid=7345

Blademaster popping 400 crits!

Also, has the stream ever gone down in SC streams? I assume they use the same servers as for the WC3 streams, so is the WC3 one gaining more viewers?

Oh and 3rd/4th place match between Moon and FoV in 1 hour 15 mins.

Medzo

United States627 Posts

July 09 2009 11:50 GMT

#327

I played FoV once a long time ago right before when he won an ESL(I think) against Madfrog. All I can say is I will never -ever- underestimate pro gamers again. I felt ravaged by the end of the game.

Moon is called the 5th race btw because he does (or use to do) craaZy strategies and Grubby could never figure out what Moon would do in the next game.

I dont know who I want to win 3rd.

EDIT: Also I hate BM so much. BM and exp tomes are mostly the reason why I stopped playing wc3.

Roxen000

1226 Posts

July 09 2009 11:54 GMT

#328

ToD and Rotter said last week there would be a showmatch between one of them and a korean caster, is that today?

ShaperofDreams

Canada2492 Posts

July 09 2009 12:03 GMT

#329

On June 04 2009 01:55 Chill wrote:
I have no idea about War3, which is exactly why I'm going to watch this. Hope I can learn a lot quickly from the commentary.

This is what i was thinking (almost word for word actually!) I have never really understood Warcraft 3 as much as Starcraft (build orders and game play) so I never really took an interest in it. However, Moon seems to have respect from most of the Starcraft guys so I doubt that it is a "skilless" game.
It's great that there are english commentators for this, if there weren't I doubt I'd be watching.

Judicator

United States7270 Posts

July 09 2009 12:52 GMT

#330

Well basically War3 boils down to timings based on your base's tiers of upgrades and the upkeep mechanic, for a SC reference think TvP when Ts push out when Ps try for a 3rd base and the P gets caught. Its like that except many things affect when the T pushes out, when the P tries for a 3rd base, when the P gets caught (if at all). Its kind of like that. The game is a little mechanical right now kind of how SC MUs were and there won't be much room for innovation until more new maps get implemented to force players to change up and think of new strategies.

Oh in team fights, pay especially attention to heroes and positioning, for example Grubby's 2nd game against Infi, Grubby won because he decided to focus fire the MK instead of trying to pick units off, Infi stuck his MK out a little too far and got caught.

deL

Australia5540 Posts

July 09 2009 13:05 GMT

#331

Goshawk, we also had ToD during IeSF and he was hilarious there, too. The thing is, SDM seems to stifle Tasteless' humour in his casting whereas RotterdaM compliments it when co-casting.

deL

Australia5540 Posts

July 09 2009 13:13 GMT

#332

Will try to keep a post like this on the most recent page with information updated, as I can't put it in the OP!

GOMtv Norton Antivirus World Invitationals
3rd/4th Place Match

[image loading]

FOX_Moon vs. [image loading]

Mouz.FoV

Maps
+ Show Spoiler +

Game 1 - Secret Valley
Game 2 - Echo Isles
Game 3 - Melting Valley
Game 4 - Twisted Meadows
Game 5 - Ancient Isles

+ Show Spoiler [Moon v FoV Results] +

Moon 0-0

FoV

Moon <Secret Valley>

FoV

Moon <Echo Isles>

FoV

Moon Melting Valley>

FoV

Moon <Twisted Meadows>

FoV

Moon <Ancient Isles>

FoV

Recommended game: None yet

+ Show Spoiler [Choice Quotes] +

Game 1 (1st attempt)
~ToD: What you are seeing here please do not try this at home [Moon's sweet staff play], if you do this you will lose.
~RotterdaM: The scenes you see here are being performed by professionals under the supervision of professionals and should not be tried at home.

~ToD: I'm gonna tell moon right now on MSN Breath of fire on the buildings you dumbass.

Watch live: GOMtv.net

deL

Australia5540 Posts

July 09 2009 13:15 GMT

#333

Anyone need some kind of LR or am I the only one watching?

Goshawk.

United Kingdom5338 Posts

July 09 2009 13:16 GMT

#334

WC3 has a much lower skill ceiling compared to SC. The hero/gold mine design means that lower levels players can have nearly perfectly macro (unit building wise). High level games all come down to unit micro in fights and decision making as where to creep. Heroes also kinda counter everything, so there's less variance in strategies, and heroes make the game a lot harder to balance.

It's definitely not a 'skilless' game, it just all comes to individual unit control a lot of the time. Blocking, surrounds, saving every unit.

Moon VS FoV live now. g1 on SV.

Roxen000

1226 Posts

July 09 2009 13:19 GMT

#335

I'm watching! ;O The stream is flawless and not laggy like last week.

deL

Australia5540 Posts

July 09 2009 13:20 GMT

#336

that's cos we are like the only people watching, Shinyface

Roxen000

1226 Posts

July 09 2009 13:22 GMT

#337

By the way man, how did that Aussie iccup tournament go?

deL

Australia5540 Posts

July 09 2009 13:28 GMT

#338

+ Show Spoiler [Offtopic Aussie banter] +

It went well, I was appreciative of the turnout - [image loading]

NrG.GoD-, a Korean living in Australia I think (he has good English though), won and [image loading]

Spud from eRazer eSports was runner up

ArvickHero

10387 Posts

July 09 2009 13:30 GMT

#339

hmm I wonder is there any place where i could get a goodlysis on the races and matchups of WC3? I searched it up on google and I found a topic from TL that had a very nice analysis, but it was from 2005 lol..

deL

Australia5540 Posts

July 09 2009 13:34 GMT

#340

On July 09 2009 22:30 ArvickHero wrote:
hmm I wonder is there any place where i could get a goodlysis on the races and matchups of WC3? I searched it up on google and I found a topic from TL that had a very nice analysis, but it was from 2005 lol..

mymym.com has some old articles there detailing how to play certian matchups - they were very basic but a good place to start. It was basically just titled something like "How to play ORC v ORC" or something so you can throw that into a search.