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WorldxEnder
Profile Joined June 2011
United States21 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 16:05:08
February 15 2012 15:29 GMT
#19461
happy birthday may you have many space ship kills today o7
edit: bit belated but still happy birthday none the less
Fortes Fortuna Adiuvat
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
February 15 2012 16:50 GMT
#19462
Nah it's still his birthday, TL's clock is fast (korean time).
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ZeratuLsc2
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada426 Posts
February 15 2012 16:54 GMT
#19463
Wait, it's Free Beer you guys are arguing with?

Will Clark > We know you are there and we are docked up
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
February 16 2012 02:43 GMT
#19464
Hey, Sard is streaming
http://www.twitch.tv/sardcaid
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Cornstyle
Profile Joined October 2010
United States147 Posts
February 16 2012 04:03 GMT
#19465
Do you guys know are there any other worthwhile EVE streams out there? Wouldn't mind something interesting to watch when I'm bored in the back of a lecture hall...
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 04:25:40
February 16 2012 04:05 GMT
#19466
ghetto cruiser squadron of EC- POLICE picked up a nice kill: http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12456496

I provided moral support~
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43898 Posts
February 16 2012 09:46 GMT
#19467
On January 23 2012 08:15 KwarK wrote:
So, I saw this "amazing" account and we played the 'value that toon' game. We concluded 14b was about right given how much wasted skill points it had but I fancied it so I convoed him to test the waters. His topic was called "must sell tonight" so I figured I could get it for about 14, maybe even less. Just to clear things up, this account is worth 14b, that's a correct valuation, the owner is just retarded.

Anyway, round one
+ Show Spoiler +
[ 2012.01.22 20:20:11 ] X ATM092 > hi
[ 2012.01.22 20:20:16 ] X ATM092 > have you sold your account yet?
[ 2012.01.22 20:20:18 ] Beepus > hi
[ 2012.01.22 20:20:21 ] Beepus > not yet
[ 2012.01.22 20:20:29 ] Beepus > in talks now
[ 2012.01.22 20:20:39 ] X ATM092 > ah
[ 2012.01.22 20:20:47 ] X ATM092 > then you probably won't want my lowball offer
[ 2012.01.22 20:20:51 ] Beepus > you interested
[ 2012.01.22 20:20:53 ] Beepus > lol
[ 2012.01.22 20:21:02 ] Beepus > 15 minimum bid mate
[ 2012.01.22 20:21:07 ] X ATM092 > i was drawn by "must sell tonight"
[ 2012.01.22 20:21:08 ] Beepus > it's a 66m SP pilot
[ 2012.01.22 20:21:32 ] X ATM092 > but not the most narrowly trained one ever
[ 2012.01.22 20:21:36 ] X ATM092 > there's more to eve than SP
[ 2012.01.22 20:21:38 ] Beepus > dude
[ 2012.01.22 20:21:42 ] Beepus > no thanx
[ 2012.01.22 20:21:44 ] Beepus > lol


Okay, clearly he's retarded. 66m skillpoints do not a high value account make, especially when all it has to it's name are "high corp standings" and "perfect shield compensations". However, undeterred I made the following post on the forums

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Capiru Jonez said: Posted: 2012.01.22 20:24 |
14b b/o


However he replied

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Beepus said: : 2012.01.22 20:29 |
Like
*sigh*

Guess I'll just have to hang on longer...

I have come down 1.5b so far, sorry 14b is too low


Despite the op of his topic clearly stating
Show nested quote +
Starting Bid: 12b
Reserve: 14b
B/O: 17b


I replied
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Capiru Jonez said:2012.01.22 20:31 |
Yet you yourself claim 14b is your reserve in your op. You're wasting my time clearly.


to which he retorted
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Beepus said:Posted: 2012.01.22 20:41 |
Like
WOW!

I'm gonna be atatcked because I don't wanna give my toon away for free ?

LOL!!


Yes, clearly because I offered the stated reserve price when the topic name says "must sell tonight" I want you to give it away. Anyway, now it was on.

On a different toon I went for round 3
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[ 2012.01.22 20:38:51 ] Jimmy Speed > i saw your topic on the forums
[ 2012.01.22 20:38:54 ] Jimmy Speed > is it still open?
[ 2012.01.22 20:38:58 ] Beepus > yeah
[ 2012.01.22 20:39:02 ] Beepus > soz was in shower
[ 2012.01.22 20:39:03 ] Beepus > >.<
[ 2012.01.22 20:39:06 ] Jimmy Speed > i'll meet your reserve
[ 2012.01.22 20:39:19 ] Beepus > no thanx mate
[ 2012.01.22 20:39:29 ] Jimmy Speed > are you sure you know what reserve means?
[ 2012.01.22 20:39:45 ] Beepus > my reserve in the forums is 14
[ 2012.01.22 20:40:07 ] Jimmy Speed > 14.5
[ 2012.01.22 20:40:17 ] Beepus > again
[ 2012.01.22 20:40:22 ] Beepus > no tahnx 15.5
[ 2012.01.22 20:40:37 ] Jimmy Speed > then good luck
[ 2012.01.22 20:40:41 ] Jimmy Speed > not convinced it's worth 15.5
[ 2012.01.22 20:40:42 ] Beepus > o7


He also changed the name of the topic to stop people lowballing him, instead editing in the word POWERHOUSE!!!!!

Round 4
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Kris Arji said: 2012.01.22 20:49 |
These shield skills are where skill points go to die. The compensation skills don't do anything to active hardeners and nobody uses passive hardeners because even with all compensations at V actives are still better. Tactical shield manipulation V is a massive waste of skill points, you actually want that one to be lower in order to increase armour bleed and hold your shield % up so you get more regen.
One skill away from t2 siege is another way of saying you have the skill at IV, another way of saying that same thing is "20% of the way towards t2 siege", not quite so impressive that way but whatever.
Advertising corp standings as amazing standings is somewhat underwhelming, especially since the highest of these is caldari navy. Admittedly someone who greatly desires cn standings may have a use for your mining skillpoints and your ability to fly hulks but most people don't.

All in all, 16b, highest I can go.


A 16b offer coming out of the blue after saying why the account is shit with no other accounts to outbid. Seems legit.

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Beepus said:2012.01.22 20:55 |
16b accepted. Online NOW!


So, that should be that. However Kris Arji wasn't online and a new contender entered the fray.

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Architect Tokila said:2012.01.22 21:01 |
Is this account still available?

I would like to offer 17b for it.


Kris then logged in and convoed him while Architect wasn't online.
+ Show Spoiler +
[ 2012.01.22 21:05:31 ] Kris Arji > hi
[ 2012.01.22 21:05:35 ] Kris Arji > so, 16b?
[ 2012.01.22 21:07:07 ] Beepus > 1 sec
[ 2012.01.22 21:07:55 ] Kris Arji > on the forums you already accepted my bid
[ 2012.01.22 21:08:01 ] Kris Arji > what gives?
[ 2012.01.22 21:08:18 ] Beepus > did you see the 17b
[ 2012.01.22 21:08:23 ] Beepus > You know what
[ 2012.01.22 21:08:25 ] Kris Arji > i saw the words accepted
[ 2012.01.22 21:08:27 ] Beepus > fine
[ 2012.01.22 21:09:32 ] Kris Arji > okay
Suddenly Archi logs in
[ 2012.01.22 21:09:40 ] Beepus > NO!
[ 2012.01.22 21:10:14 ] Kris Arji > posted on the forums
[ 2012.01.22 21:10:31 ] Kris Arji > shall we transfer isk and give details?
[ 2012.01.22 21:10:37 ] Beepus > no transaction yet
[ 2012.01.22 21:10:49 ] Beepus > another offer was placed before you sent isk
[ 2012.01.22 21:10:55 ] Beepus > Thanx for the offer
[ 2012.01.22 21:10:59 ] Kris Arji > seriously?
[ 2012.01.22 21:11:02 ] Kris Arji > you said accepted
[ 2012.01.22 21:11:06 ] Kris Arji > both on forums and in game
[ 2012.01.22 21:11:32 ] Kris Arji > fuck this


His delusional belief that his account was worth 17b and his pure greed in his dealings with me let him down. Kris, betrayed by him several times, stormed off.

Meanwhile it wasn't going so well with Architect
+ Show Spoiler +
Beepus > 17b ?
Architect Tokila > yep give me like 5 min to get the iskies
Architect Tokila > need to take back IOUs from corp mates
Beepus > lol
Architect Tokila > ok I just phoned my friend, he cant give me back 4b he owes me so the highest I can go is 13b
Beepus > serioulsy
Beepus > Dude
Architect Tokila > man wtf the guys is my best friend playing eve with him for like 3 years
Architect Tokila > and he doesnt have the isk
Architect Tokila > he never did this before
Beepus > I can wait till tomorrow
Beepus > best I can do
Architect Tokila > Kris Arji > hi<br>Kris Arji > so, 16b?<br>Beepus > 1 sec<br>Kris Arji > on the forums you already accepted my bid<br>Kris Arji > what gives?<br>Beepus > did you see the 17b<br>Beepus > You know what<br>Kris Arji > i saw the words...
Architect Tokila > man what is this
Architect Tokila > are you trying to scam me?
Beepus > no
Architect Tokila > the guys says you accepted his offer
Beepus > telling him he can have the toon
Beepus > you obviously can't get the isk
Beepus > ahd 2 offer at the same time
Architect Tokila > dude I am fucking lucky I cant get the isk you were trying a double sell or something, his forum post is way before I told you that I cant get the isk
Architect Tokila > was trying to get a loan all this time
Architect Tokila > is anyone in eve honest
Beepus > no
Beepus > desperately trying to sell
Beepus > have been for a week now
Beepus > I ned the isk for my MOM
Architect Tokila > I understand the need man, but really now I dont want to accept the loan
Architect Tokila > you were trying to sell the account to the five different people in the same time
Architect Tokila > wtf
Beepus > WHAT ?
Beepus > 2 people
Beepus > you and the other guy placed offer
Beepus > I said yes to him but then YOU offered more
Beepus > nothing wrong with accepting a higher bid
Beepus > o.O
Beepus > CCP rukes state that I have the right to accept another offer before the transfer starts
Architect Tokila > and then the guy post a log explicitly stating that you accepted his offer
Beepus > no dishonesty intended
Architect Tokila > how do I know that once I send you the isk you wont accept his 16b and fuck off
Beepus > I said NO
Beepus > I got anoother offer
Architect Tokila > but put yourself in my position
Beepus > well.. it's not allowed for one
Beepus > CCP does not allow character sams
Architect Tokila > yes but the second I loan the isk i have to pay interest
Beepus > tehy replace you isk if you get scammed
Beepus > dude!
Architect Tokila > and i dont want to spend 800m more
Beepus > how the hell are you turning agauinst me
Architect Tokila > and you send me back the isk
Beepus > I said no to him to accept YOUR offer
Architect Tokila > and I get scamed
Beepus > wow!
Architect Tokila > man in the long long time I have been playing eve I have never did all the dishonest things you did
Beepus > you gonna buy or do I have to start selling all over again
Architect Tokila > stand up and be a man
Beepus > hoiw was I dishonest ?
Architect Tokila > you told that guy that you accept his offer
Beepus > yes on the forums
Beepus > and then you came online
Beepus > and I contacted you
Beepus > and you agreed 17
Beepus > then I told him no
Architect Tokila > and then I saw the forums
Beepus > WTF ?
Beepus > seriously
Architect Tokila > that guy has the right to be annoyed you know
Beepus > your loss mate
Beepus > i'lll sell it to my mate for 15
Beepus > bye
Beepus > o/


So, we're both out of the game but his friend wants to buy it for 15b. I guess that's over.

or is it!!!!!!

ROUND FIVE!

A dramabomb hits the forums. It seems that Kris was pissed off about the betrayal and posted on the forums about it. At first Beepus was hostile in response, assuming he was about to get 17b, but once that deal fell through he went back and started editing posts.

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Beepus said: 2012.01.22 21:14 | Edited by: Beepus

if you had bothered to stay on for 10 more seconds... you would have seen me telkl you that I accept your offer as I said yes to you 1st!

Transfer the isk and account details and I will start the transfer ASAP



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Kris Arji said:2012.01.22 21:20 |
You know what, you can keep it.
You devalued the name somewhat with this stunt. You've been editing your posts to make it look like you didn't pull some seriously lame **** here but you accepted an offer, closed the bidding, then reopened it, then closed it again, then reopened it again, and you want me to bid for a third time?


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Beepus said:2012.01.22 21:23 | Edited by: Beepus
The forum Rules state that I have the right to accept or refuse an offer up to the point where the trabsaction starts.

You placed and offer and I accpeted., few seconds later some1 else offered a better offer.
I told the 1st guy no to take THE BETTER OFFER, 2nd guy tell me he doesn't have the isk so as I was about to tell buyer 1 I'll take his offer he EMO RAGE QUIT ??

Seriously ?

I'm selling a toon to the hiughest bidder... if that's wrong FINE!!


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Kris said:Posted: 2012.01.22 21:46 |
Beepus said:
The forum Rules state that I have the right to accept or refuse an offer up to the point where the trabsaction starts.

You placed and offer and I accpeted., few seconds later some1 else offered a better offer.
I told the 1st guy no to take THE BETTER OFFER, 2nd guy tell me he doesn't have the isk so as I was about to tell buyer 1 I'll take his offer he EMO RAGE QUIT ??

Seriously ?

I'm selling a toon to the hiughest bidder... if that's wrong FINE!!


No, you told me you accepted my bid on the forums and then you got a better offer before I sent the isk. I asked you in game in a conversation with you if you were going to accept my bid anyway, pointing out you had already said you accepted it on the forums and again you said yes. I was about to send the isk, after we'd already discussed the better offer and you'd said you were still going to accept mine, when you changed your mind. Really, really weak move.


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Beepus said:Posted: 2012.01.22 21:50 | Edited by: Beepus
If you don't like people making offers higher than yours I suggest you match offers.

I'm available for sale. If you want to troll my thread with your tears let me know and I'll ask CCP to remove them.

I'm selling a toon... this is not a charity. Highest offer will get he toon.


However, the story of Kris and Beepus isn't over. He sent the following mail
Show nested quote +
Character Sale
From: Beepus
To: Kris Arji
I tell you what....

I'll apologise for trying to get the highest bid and offer the toon to you for 15b.

Is that a token of trying to make it right?

But it was too late, Kris did not reply.

Capiru however was ready for a return
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Capiru Jonez said:Posted: 2012.01.22 22:07 |
oh wow lol, drama going on in here
well if you still care ill still pay 14b for it


He convoed Capiru in game and round 6 was on
+ Show Spoiler +
---------------------------------------------------------------

Channel ID: -27841082
Channel Name: Private Chat (Beepus)
Listener: Capiru Jonez
Session started: 2012.01.22 22:18:34
---------------------------------------------------------------

[ 2012.01.22 22:18:39 ] Beepus > hi
[ 2012.01.22 22:18:46 ] Capiru Jonez > hi again
[ 2012.01.22 22:18:47 ] Beepus > fucking kids and tehir DRAME!!
[ 2012.01.22 22:18:49 ] Beepus > DRAMA
[ 2012.01.22 22:18:51 ] Beepus > lol
[ 2012.01.22 22:19:03 ] Beepus > 14.5 and it's yours
[ 2012.01.22 22:19:28 ] Capiru Jonez > i offered you 14.5 earlier
[ 2012.01.22 22:19:31 ] Capiru Jonez > and you rejected it
[ 2012.01.22 22:19:36 ] Capiru Jonez > and were pretty rude about it too
[ 2012.01.22 22:19:37 ] Beepus > yes
[ 2012.01.22 22:19:41 ] Beepus > not really
[ 2012.01.22 22:19:44 ] Beepus > I said no thanx
[ 2012.01.22 22:19:49 ] Beepus > wow!
[ 2012.01.22 22:19:58 ] Beepus > is this twilight zone tonight ?
[ 2012.01.22 22:21:13 ] Capiru Jonez > i met your reserve and you were like "LOL IM NOT GONNA GIVE IT AWAY FOR FREE LOL"
[ 2012.01.22 22:21:23 ] Capiru Jonez > i'm an adult
[ 2012.01.22 22:21:27 ] Beepus > i'm still not
[ 2012.01.22 22:21:32 ] Capiru Jonez > i made an offer and you were a dick about it
[ 2012.01.22 22:21:35 ] Beepus > that's why I said 14,5
[ 2012.01.22 22:21:44 ] Beepus > now I'm being nice about it
[ 2012.01.22 22:21:48 ] Capiru Jonez > 14 sir
[ 2012.01.22 22:22:01 ] Beepus > Rejected Sir
[ 2012.01.22 22:22:08 ] Beepus > Thanx for your offer
[ 2012.01.22 22:22:11 ] Capiru Jonez > again i feel you need to google reserve
[ 2012.01.22 22:22:20 ] Capiru Jonez > i'm not sure it means what you think it means
[ 2012.01.22 22:22:34 ] Beepus > what do you think it means ?
[ 2012.01.22 22:22:38 ] Beepus > no sarcasm
[ 2012.01.22 22:22:42 ] Beepus > being serious
[ 2012.01.22 22:22:56 ] Beepus > actually
[ 2012.01.22 22:22:59 ] Beepus > you know what
[ 2012.01.22 22:23:12 ] Beepus > I can I be BRUTALLY honest with you
[ 2012.01.22 22:23:33 ] Beepus > ?
[ 2012.01.22 22:23:52 ] Capiru Jonez > i don't see the need
[ 2012.01.22 22:24:06 ] Beepus > I am so frustrated with these kids
[ 2012.01.22 22:24:17 ] Beepus > taht I'm probably being a dick
[ 2012.01.22 22:24:23 ] Beepus > I apologise for that
[ 2012.01.22 22:24:35 ] Beepus > Had a long day at work to walk into this
[ 2012.01.22 22:24:57 ] Beepus > give me an hour to transfer my assets and I'll sell for 14 if you still want it
[ 2012.01.22 22:25:00 ] Beepus > up to you
[ 2012.01.22 22:25:06 ] Beepus > if you don't I'll undrstand
[ 2012.01.22 22:25:07 ] Capiru Jonez > yeah, i can imagine
[ 2012.01.22 22:25:18 ] Capiru Jonez > okay
[ 2012.01.22 22:25:26 ] Beepus > sorry again
[ 2012.01.22 22:25:27 ] Capiru Jonez > post on the forum that you accept
[ 2012.01.22 22:25:29 ] Beepus > *sigh*
[ 2012.01.22 22:25:30 ] Capiru Jonez > i'll transfer the isk
[ 2012.01.22 22:25:32 ] Capiru Jonez > i have it right here
[ 2012.01.22 22:25:39 ] Beepus > sec#
[ 2012.01.22 22:26:04 ] Beepus > done


14 billion isk
done


Resold for 20b.

The bank of KwarK portfolio is looking pretty fucking sick at the moment. In the last 3 days I've seen a 7% rise in the value of my stock which has increased my net worth by about 25b without me lifting a finger (although liquidation is tough and the money isn't in my hands). Interest paid out to long term investors includes a lump sum interest payment of 4.2b to motbob, 2.7b to mango and 2.1b to kizu who did nothing more than allow me access to their idle liquidity. They're just a few of my many investors and I'd like to thank them as well as Pufftrees, Tofu, Johnny, Karah, Ueber, BBQ, VoV, Kizu, Alex and anyone else who bailed me out when I was short on cash. At my peak I owed over 130b isk with debt increasing at a rate of about a plex every two days, however with all of your help I was able to do great things.
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ZeratuLsc2
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada426 Posts
February 16 2012 10:15 GMT
#19468
On February 16 2012 13:03 Cornstyle wrote:
Do you guys know are there any other worthwhile EVE streams out there? Wouldn't mind something interesting to watch when I'm bored in the back of a lecture hall...


No, there's none. I've thought about it a few times but the risk of 'stream cheating' is too real, especially in a game like Eve where you have every incentive in the world to screw over everyone else.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
February 16 2012 10:32 GMT
#19469
On February 16 2012 13:03 Cornstyle wrote:
Do you guys know are there any other worthwhile EVE streams out there? Wouldn't mind something interesting to watch when I'm bored in the back of a lecture hall...

A lot of the value from Sard's stream comes from his commentary and explanations on top of the actual roaming/pvp/whatever. Unfortunately I don't know anyone else that comes close to what he does.
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ZeratuLsc2
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada426 Posts
February 16 2012 10:40 GMT
#19470
On February 16 2012 19:32 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 13:03 Cornstyle wrote:
Do you guys know are there any other worthwhile EVE streams out there? Wouldn't mind something interesting to watch when I'm bored in the back of a lecture hall...

A lot of the value from Sard's stream comes from his commentary and explanations on top of the actual roaming/pvp/whatever. Unfortunately I don't know anyone else that comes close to what he does.


https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=42133&find=unread
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 10:44:32
February 16 2012 10:44 GMT
#19471
Podcast != stream.

But yes that podcast looks good as well.
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ZeratuLsc2
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada426 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 12:41:03
February 16 2012 12:36 GMT
#19472
On February 16 2012 19:44 Firebolt145 wrote:
Podcast != stream.

But yes that podcast looks good as well.


True, but Kil2 is one of the greatest minds and one of the smartest dudes in the game.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
February 16 2012 13:32 GMT
#19473
On February 16 2012 21:36 Hellfury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 19:44 Firebolt145 wrote:
Podcast != stream.

But yes that podcast looks good as well.


True, but Kil2 is one of the greatest minds and one of the smartest dudes in the game.

Sorry I genuinely don't know the guy much so I can't tell if troll, haha. Coincidentally kil2 was watching sard's stream yesterday.
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Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
February 16 2012 16:11 GMT
#19474
On February 16 2012 13:05 419 wrote:
ghetto cruiser squadron of EC- POLICE picked up a nice kill: http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12456496

I provided moral support~

Aeth upon tackle of the Machariel:
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So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43898 Posts
February 16 2012 17:31 GMT
#19475
Patch broke my eve (again).
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
February 16 2012 17:48 GMT
#19476
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/11/28/vehicle-dynamics-in-dust-514/
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
February 16 2012 17:54 GMT
#19477
On February 17 2012 02:31 KwarK wrote:
Patch broke my eve (again).

Have you backed up your eve settings so that whenever this happens in the future you'll just need to run the repair tool, but you won't lose any of your actual settings?
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NathanEO
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany254 Posts
February 16 2012 18:12 GMT
#19478
On February 17 2012 02:48 Warri wrote:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/11/28/vehicle-dynamics-in-dust-514/


Yay for Spaceships with Wheels \o/
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22237 Posts
February 16 2012 18:31 GMT
#19479
On February 16 2012 18:46 KwarK wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On January 23 2012 08:15 KwarK wrote:
So, I saw this "amazing" account and we played the 'value that toon' game. We concluded 14b was about right given how much wasted skill points it had but I fancied it so I convoed him to test the waters. His topic was called "must sell tonight" so I figured I could get it for about 14, maybe even less. Just to clear things up, this account is worth 14b, that's a correct valuation, the owner is just retarded.

Anyway, round one
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[ 2012.01.22 20:20:11 ] X ATM092 > hi
[ 2012.01.22 20:20:16 ] X ATM092 > have you sold your account yet?
[ 2012.01.22 20:20:18 ] Beepus > hi
[ 2012.01.22 20:20:21 ] Beepus > not yet
[ 2012.01.22 20:20:29 ] Beepus > in talks now
[ 2012.01.22 20:20:39 ] X ATM092 > ah
[ 2012.01.22 20:20:47 ] X ATM092 > then you probably won't want my lowball offer
[ 2012.01.22 20:20:51 ] Beepus > you interested
[ 2012.01.22 20:20:53 ] Beepus > lol
[ 2012.01.22 20:21:02 ] Beepus > 15 minimum bid mate
[ 2012.01.22 20:21:07 ] X ATM092 > i was drawn by "must sell tonight"
[ 2012.01.22 20:21:08 ] Beepus > it's a 66m SP pilot
[ 2012.01.22 20:21:32 ] X ATM092 > but not the most narrowly trained one ever
[ 2012.01.22 20:21:36 ] X ATM092 > there's more to eve than SP
[ 2012.01.22 20:21:38 ] Beepus > dude
[ 2012.01.22 20:21:42 ] Beepus > no thanx
[ 2012.01.22 20:21:44 ] Beepus > lol


Okay, clearly he's retarded. 66m skillpoints do not a high value account make, especially when all it has to it's name are "high corp standings" and "perfect shield compensations". However, undeterred I made the following post on the forums

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Capiru Jonez said: Posted: 2012.01.22 20:24 |
14b b/o


However he replied

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Beepus said: : 2012.01.22 20:29 |
Like
*sigh*

Guess I'll just have to hang on longer...

I have come down 1.5b so far, sorry 14b is too low


Despite the op of his topic clearly stating
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Starting Bid: 12b
Reserve: 14b
B/O: 17b


I replied
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Capiru Jonez said:2012.01.22 20:31 |
Yet you yourself claim 14b is your reserve in your op. You're wasting my time clearly.


to which he retorted
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Beepus said:Posted: 2012.01.22 20:41 |
Like
WOW!

I'm gonna be atatcked because I don't wanna give my toon away for free ?

LOL!!


Yes, clearly because I offered the stated reserve price when the topic name says "must sell tonight" I want you to give it away. Anyway, now it was on.

On a different toon I went for round 3
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[ 2012.01.22 20:38:51 ] Jimmy Speed > i saw your topic on the forums
[ 2012.01.22 20:38:54 ] Jimmy Speed > is it still open?
[ 2012.01.22 20:38:58 ] Beepus > yeah
[ 2012.01.22 20:39:02 ] Beepus > soz was in shower
[ 2012.01.22 20:39:03 ] Beepus > >.<
[ 2012.01.22 20:39:06 ] Jimmy Speed > i'll meet your reserve
[ 2012.01.22 20:39:19 ] Beepus > no thanx mate
[ 2012.01.22 20:39:29 ] Jimmy Speed > are you sure you know what reserve means?
[ 2012.01.22 20:39:45 ] Beepus > my reserve in the forums is 14
[ 2012.01.22 20:40:07 ] Jimmy Speed > 14.5
[ 2012.01.22 20:40:17 ] Beepus > again
[ 2012.01.22 20:40:22 ] Beepus > no tahnx 15.5
[ 2012.01.22 20:40:37 ] Jimmy Speed > then good luck
[ 2012.01.22 20:40:41 ] Jimmy Speed > not convinced it's worth 15.5
[ 2012.01.22 20:40:42 ] Beepus > o7


He also changed the name of the topic to stop people lowballing him, instead editing in the word POWERHOUSE!!!!!

Round 4
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Kris Arji said: 2012.01.22 20:49 |
These shield skills are where skill points go to die. The compensation skills don't do anything to active hardeners and nobody uses passive hardeners because even with all compensations at V actives are still better. Tactical shield manipulation V is a massive waste of skill points, you actually want that one to be lower in order to increase armour bleed and hold your shield % up so you get more regen.
One skill away from t2 siege is another way of saying you have the skill at IV, another way of saying that same thing is "20% of the way towards t2 siege", not quite so impressive that way but whatever.
Advertising corp standings as amazing standings is somewhat underwhelming, especially since the highest of these is caldari navy. Admittedly someone who greatly desires cn standings may have a use for your mining skillpoints and your ability to fly hulks but most people don't.

All in all, 16b, highest I can go.


A 16b offer coming out of the blue after saying why the account is shit with no other accounts to outbid. Seems legit.

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Beepus said:2012.01.22 20:55 |
16b accepted. Online NOW!


So, that should be that. However Kris Arji wasn't online and a new contender entered the fray.

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Architect Tokila said:2012.01.22 21:01 |
Is this account still available?

I would like to offer 17b for it.


Kris then logged in and convoed him while Architect wasn't online.
+ Show Spoiler +
[ 2012.01.22 21:05:31 ] Kris Arji > hi
[ 2012.01.22 21:05:35 ] Kris Arji > so, 16b?
[ 2012.01.22 21:07:07 ] Beepus > 1 sec
[ 2012.01.22 21:07:55 ] Kris Arji > on the forums you already accepted my bid
[ 2012.01.22 21:08:01 ] Kris Arji > what gives?
[ 2012.01.22 21:08:18 ] Beepus > did you see the 17b
[ 2012.01.22 21:08:23 ] Beepus > You know what
[ 2012.01.22 21:08:25 ] Kris Arji > i saw the words accepted
[ 2012.01.22 21:08:27 ] Beepus > fine
[ 2012.01.22 21:09:32 ] Kris Arji > okay
Suddenly Archi logs in
[ 2012.01.22 21:09:40 ] Beepus > NO!
[ 2012.01.22 21:10:14 ] Kris Arji > posted on the forums
[ 2012.01.22 21:10:31 ] Kris Arji > shall we transfer isk and give details?
[ 2012.01.22 21:10:37 ] Beepus > no transaction yet
[ 2012.01.22 21:10:49 ] Beepus > another offer was placed before you sent isk
[ 2012.01.22 21:10:55 ] Beepus > Thanx for the offer
[ 2012.01.22 21:10:59 ] Kris Arji > seriously?
[ 2012.01.22 21:11:02 ] Kris Arji > you said accepted
[ 2012.01.22 21:11:06 ] Kris Arji > both on forums and in game
[ 2012.01.22 21:11:32 ] Kris Arji > fuck this


His delusional belief that his account was worth 17b and his pure greed in his dealings with me let him down. Kris, betrayed by him several times, stormed off.

Meanwhile it wasn't going so well with Architect
+ Show Spoiler +
Beepus > 17b ?
Architect Tokila > yep give me like 5 min to get the iskies
Architect Tokila > need to take back IOUs from corp mates
Beepus > lol
Architect Tokila > ok I just phoned my friend, he cant give me back 4b he owes me so the highest I can go is 13b
Beepus > serioulsy
Beepus > Dude
Architect Tokila > man wtf the guys is my best friend playing eve with him for like 3 years
Architect Tokila > and he doesnt have the isk
Architect Tokila > he never did this before
Beepus > I can wait till tomorrow
Beepus > best I can do
Architect Tokila > Kris Arji > hi<br>Kris Arji > so, 16b?<br>Beepus > 1 sec<br>Kris Arji > on the forums you already accepted my bid<br>Kris Arji > what gives?<br>Beepus > did you see the 17b<br>Beepus > You know what<br>Kris Arji > i saw the words...
Architect Tokila > man what is this
Architect Tokila > are you trying to scam me?
Beepus > no
Architect Tokila > the guys says you accepted his offer
Beepus > telling him he can have the toon
Beepus > you obviously can't get the isk
Beepus > ahd 2 offer at the same time
Architect Tokila > dude I am fucking lucky I cant get the isk you were trying a double sell or something, his forum post is way before I told you that I cant get the isk
Architect Tokila > was trying to get a loan all this time
Architect Tokila > is anyone in eve honest
Beepus > no
Beepus > desperately trying to sell
Beepus > have been for a week now
Beepus > I ned the isk for my MOM
Architect Tokila > I understand the need man, but really now I dont want to accept the loan
Architect Tokila > you were trying to sell the account to the five different people in the same time
Architect Tokila > wtf
Beepus > WHAT ?
Beepus > 2 people
Beepus > you and the other guy placed offer
Beepus > I said yes to him but then YOU offered more
Beepus > nothing wrong with accepting a higher bid
Beepus > o.O
Beepus > CCP rukes state that I have the right to accept another offer before the transfer starts
Architect Tokila > and then the guy post a log explicitly stating that you accepted his offer
Beepus > no dishonesty intended
Architect Tokila > how do I know that once I send you the isk you wont accept his 16b and fuck off
Beepus > I said NO
Beepus > I got anoother offer
Architect Tokila > but put yourself in my position
Beepus > well.. it's not allowed for one
Beepus > CCP does not allow character sams
Architect Tokila > yes but the second I loan the isk i have to pay interest
Beepus > tehy replace you isk if you get scammed
Beepus > dude!
Architect Tokila > and i dont want to spend 800m more
Beepus > how the hell are you turning agauinst me
Architect Tokila > and you send me back the isk
Beepus > I said no to him to accept YOUR offer
Architect Tokila > and I get scamed
Beepus > wow!
Architect Tokila > man in the long long time I have been playing eve I have never did all the dishonest things you did
Beepus > you gonna buy or do I have to start selling all over again
Architect Tokila > stand up and be a man
Beepus > hoiw was I dishonest ?
Architect Tokila > you told that guy that you accept his offer
Beepus > yes on the forums
Beepus > and then you came online
Beepus > and I contacted you
Beepus > and you agreed 17
Beepus > then I told him no
Architect Tokila > and then I saw the forums
Beepus > WTF ?
Beepus > seriously
Architect Tokila > that guy has the right to be annoyed you know
Beepus > your loss mate
Beepus > i'lll sell it to my mate for 15
Beepus > bye
Beepus > o/


So, we're both out of the game but his friend wants to buy it for 15b. I guess that's over.

or is it!!!!!!

ROUND FIVE!

A dramabomb hits the forums. It seems that Kris was pissed off about the betrayal and posted on the forums about it. At first Beepus was hostile in response, assuming he was about to get 17b, but once that deal fell through he went back and started editing posts.

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Beepus said: 2012.01.22 21:14 | Edited by: Beepus

if you had bothered to stay on for 10 more seconds... you would have seen me telkl you that I accept your offer as I said yes to you 1st!

Transfer the isk and account details and I will start the transfer ASAP



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Kris Arji said:2012.01.22 21:20 |
You know what, you can keep it.
You devalued the name somewhat with this stunt. You've been editing your posts to make it look like you didn't pull some seriously lame **** here but you accepted an offer, closed the bidding, then reopened it, then closed it again, then reopened it again, and you want me to bid for a third time?


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Beepus said:2012.01.22 21:23 | Edited by: Beepus
The forum Rules state that I have the right to accept or refuse an offer up to the point where the trabsaction starts.

You placed and offer and I accpeted., few seconds later some1 else offered a better offer.
I told the 1st guy no to take THE BETTER OFFER, 2nd guy tell me he doesn't have the isk so as I was about to tell buyer 1 I'll take his offer he EMO RAGE QUIT ??

Seriously ?

I'm selling a toon to the hiughest bidder... if that's wrong FINE!!


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Kris said:Posted: 2012.01.22 21:46 |
Beepus said:
The forum Rules state that I have the right to accept or refuse an offer up to the point where the trabsaction starts.

You placed and offer and I accpeted., few seconds later some1 else offered a better offer.
I told the 1st guy no to take THE BETTER OFFER, 2nd guy tell me he doesn't have the isk so as I was about to tell buyer 1 I'll take his offer he EMO RAGE QUIT ??

Seriously ?

I'm selling a toon to the hiughest bidder... if that's wrong FINE!!


No, you told me you accepted my bid on the forums and then you got a better offer before I sent the isk. I asked you in game in a conversation with you if you were going to accept my bid anyway, pointing out you had already said you accepted it on the forums and again you said yes. I was about to send the isk, after we'd already discussed the better offer and you'd said you were still going to accept mine, when you changed your mind. Really, really weak move.


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Beepus said:Posted: 2012.01.22 21:50 | Edited by: Beepus
If you don't like people making offers higher than yours I suggest you match offers.

I'm available for sale. If you want to troll my thread with your tears let me know and I'll ask CCP to remove them.

I'm selling a toon... this is not a charity. Highest offer will get he toon.


However, the story of Kris and Beepus isn't over. He sent the following mail
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Character Sale
From: Beepus
To: Kris Arji
I tell you what....

I'll apologise for trying to get the highest bid and offer the toon to you for 15b.

Is that a token of trying to make it right?

But it was too late, Kris did not reply.

Capiru however was ready for a return
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Capiru Jonez said:Posted: 2012.01.22 22:07 |
oh wow lol, drama going on in here
well if you still care ill still pay 14b for it


He convoed Capiru in game and round 6 was on
+ Show Spoiler +
---------------------------------------------------------------

Channel ID: -27841082
Channel Name: Private Chat (Beepus)
Listener: Capiru Jonez
Session started: 2012.01.22 22:18:34
---------------------------------------------------------------

[ 2012.01.22 22:18:39 ] Beepus > hi
[ 2012.01.22 22:18:46 ] Capiru Jonez > hi again
[ 2012.01.22 22:18:47 ] Beepus > fucking kids and tehir DRAME!!
[ 2012.01.22 22:18:49 ] Beepus > DRAMA
[ 2012.01.22 22:18:51 ] Beepus > lol
[ 2012.01.22 22:19:03 ] Beepus > 14.5 and it's yours
[ 2012.01.22 22:19:28 ] Capiru Jonez > i offered you 14.5 earlier
[ 2012.01.22 22:19:31 ] Capiru Jonez > and you rejected it
[ 2012.01.22 22:19:36 ] Capiru Jonez > and were pretty rude about it too
[ 2012.01.22 22:19:37 ] Beepus > yes
[ 2012.01.22 22:19:41 ] Beepus > not really
[ 2012.01.22 22:19:44 ] Beepus > I said no thanx
[ 2012.01.22 22:19:49 ] Beepus > wow!
[ 2012.01.22 22:19:58 ] Beepus > is this twilight zone tonight ?
[ 2012.01.22 22:21:13 ] Capiru Jonez > i met your reserve and you were like "LOL IM NOT GONNA GIVE IT AWAY FOR FREE LOL"
[ 2012.01.22 22:21:23 ] Capiru Jonez > i'm an adult
[ 2012.01.22 22:21:27 ] Beepus > i'm still not
[ 2012.01.22 22:21:32 ] Capiru Jonez > i made an offer and you were a dick about it
[ 2012.01.22 22:21:35 ] Beepus > that's why I said 14,5
[ 2012.01.22 22:21:44 ] Beepus > now I'm being nice about it
[ 2012.01.22 22:21:48 ] Capiru Jonez > 14 sir
[ 2012.01.22 22:22:01 ] Beepus > Rejected Sir
[ 2012.01.22 22:22:08 ] Beepus > Thanx for your offer
[ 2012.01.22 22:22:11 ] Capiru Jonez > again i feel you need to google reserve
[ 2012.01.22 22:22:20 ] Capiru Jonez > i'm not sure it means what you think it means
[ 2012.01.22 22:22:34 ] Beepus > what do you think it means ?
[ 2012.01.22 22:22:38 ] Beepus > no sarcasm
[ 2012.01.22 22:22:42 ] Beepus > being serious
[ 2012.01.22 22:22:56 ] Beepus > actually
[ 2012.01.22 22:22:59 ] Beepus > you know what
[ 2012.01.22 22:23:12 ] Beepus > I can I be BRUTALLY honest with you
[ 2012.01.22 22:23:33 ] Beepus > ?
[ 2012.01.22 22:23:52 ] Capiru Jonez > i don't see the need
[ 2012.01.22 22:24:06 ] Beepus > I am so frustrated with these kids
[ 2012.01.22 22:24:17 ] Beepus > taht I'm probably being a dick
[ 2012.01.22 22:24:23 ] Beepus > I apologise for that
[ 2012.01.22 22:24:35 ] Beepus > Had a long day at work to walk into this
[ 2012.01.22 22:24:57 ] Beepus > give me an hour to transfer my assets and I'll sell for 14 if you still want it
[ 2012.01.22 22:25:00 ] Beepus > up to you
[ 2012.01.22 22:25:06 ] Beepus > if you don't I'll undrstand
[ 2012.01.22 22:25:07 ] Capiru Jonez > yeah, i can imagine
[ 2012.01.22 22:25:18 ] Capiru Jonez > okay
[ 2012.01.22 22:25:26 ] Beepus > sorry again
[ 2012.01.22 22:25:27 ] Capiru Jonez > post on the forum that you accept
[ 2012.01.22 22:25:29 ] Beepus > *sigh*
[ 2012.01.22 22:25:30 ] Capiru Jonez > i'll transfer the isk
[ 2012.01.22 22:25:32 ] Capiru Jonez > i have it right here
[ 2012.01.22 22:25:39 ] Beepus > sec#
[ 2012.01.22 22:26:04 ] Beepus > done


14 billion isk
done


Resold for 20b.

The bank of KwarK portfolio is looking pretty fucking sick at the moment. In the last 3 days I've seen a 7% rise in the value of my stock which has increased my net worth by about 25b without me lifting a finger (although liquidation is tough and the money isn't in my hands). Interest paid out to long term investors includes a lump sum interest payment of 4.2b to motbob, 2.7b to mango and 2.1b to kizu who did nothing more than allow me access to their idle liquidity. They're just a few of my many investors and I'd like to thank them as well as Pufftrees, Tofu, Johnny, Karah, Ueber, BBQ, VoV, Kizu, Alex and anyone else who bailed me out when I was short on cash. At my peak I owed over 130b isk with debt increasing at a rate of about a plex every two days, however with all of your help I was able to do great things.


Wow, I dont play eve myself (dont really have the time) but I got a little into it when my brother played and have read this thread from time to time for some laughs and this must be on of the better onces I have read in a long time. The grin just kept on growing and growing.

Well played sir, well played.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
ZeratuLsc2
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada426 Posts
February 16 2012 18:41 GMT
#19480
On February 16 2012 22:32 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 21:36 Hellfury wrote:
On February 16 2012 19:44 Firebolt145 wrote:
Podcast != stream.

But yes that podcast looks good as well.


True, but Kil2 is one of the greatest minds and one of the smartest dudes in the game.

Sorry I genuinely don't know the guy much so I can't tell if troll, haha. Coincidentally kil2 was watching sard's stream yesterday.


Naw, not trolling at all. He's one of the only Alliance Tournament commentators who actually knows what he's talking about all the time, and has several awesome solo PvP vids and some stuff on his youtube channel.

http://www.club-bear.com/

I highly recommend checking it out.
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