EPTFormer Top SC player wins 5 mil in poker - Page 2
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grobo
Japan6199 Posts
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ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
For those who care, Hollow is the only one who knows what he's talking about in this thread. | ||
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Racenilatr
United States2756 Posts
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On November 11 2008 21:28 ShAsTa wrote: Are you talking about the record of most winnings in one tournament? 'Cause I think Elky has made more than 5 million from poker so far. (I could be very wrong though  , besides doesn't Rekrul hold that title?)Elky definitely won more overall, but as far as live play is concerned he's not quiet there. http://www.pokerpages.com/players/profiles/59776/bertrand-grospellier.htm And Rekrul isnt that good of a tourney player. http://www.pokerpages.com/players/profiles/96236/daniel-schreiber.htm Not too many online scores either. | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On November 12 2008 01:05 ManaBlue wrote: You guys need to stop being so hilariously uninformed and actually go try to play some poker if that's really the way you feel. For those who care, Hollow is the only one who knows what he's talking about in this thread. have you seen that datamine site? | ||
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SiegeTanksandBlueGoo
China685 Posts
New Year's resolution: Learn poker, win money. | ||
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Deleted User 3420
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Liquid`Nazgul
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Liquid`Zephyr
United States996 Posts
pretty awesome for soul to get 2nd though | ||
Twisted
Netherlands13554 Posts
That's what most people don't understand. And poker is not all about the tournaments, it's mostly about cash games. If you put in 1/20th of your bankroll you're not taking a big risk on a cash table. If you are better than your opponents then in the long run you're going to win. Sure you can lose 5 pots in a row but you'll still have enough money to go on. You now have 3/4th of that starting bankroll left but if you move down a limit to rebuild you suddenly have 1,5 as much in terms of table stakes. Playing cash game poker is very comparable to a starcraft ladder when you just use your starting capital (for most starting players it's a free 50$ promotion). You start out and try to learn the game by informing yourself via forums etc. and try to get some people to help you. There are tons of poker forums out there willing to help out when someone posts a difficult hand or whatever. Everyone starts at the lowest limit (D for iccup comparison) which is throwing cents around with a 2$ buyin so you have a safety net when you run into some short term bad luck. Once you have made your initial 50$ into a 200$ by working really hard on your game constantly and asking people for help on the various forums, you can try moving up to the 10$ tables. If you lose back to 150$ you can go back to 5$ buyin tables. Getting better at poker goes with experience and educating yourself and evaluating your play by using various software such as Hold'em Manager or Pokertracker. Once you get higher and higher in the limits you will start to play better players, making you a better player as well. There's a gigantic learning curve in this game, just like with Starcraft. The only way you are going to get good at playing poker is by playing a shitload of it, just like with Starcraft. With Starcraft you improve by playing a lot and you gain points on a ladder and get higher rank when you reach a new level. You start playing more seasoned players here as well on the higher ranks (i.e. higher limits in poker). The key here is that your bankroll should be at least 30 times (this amount is very variable and it's based on the player obviously. Some people need a bigger safety net than others) the amount that you have on the tables no matter which stake you play. If you're going through a rough time, you drop down stakes so your safety net is still guaranteed. And yes floor excersize, you have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not even going to start arguing with someone who doesn't understand _ANYTHING_ about poker and how it works (I'm not talking about the game rules here). If you haven't played online poker the way it's supposed to be played, i.e. starting at the bottom and educating yourself a whole lot, then you shouldn't be arguing about it. Buying your way into a WSOP tournament is only eligible to either: a: rich people who just like to play the game and take a shot at it, for these people it's more like a lottery. b: people who have made a living out of poker by using a massive bankroll built up by playing poker in the way I just explained above (the ladder example). | ||
KwarK
United States43902 Posts
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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jello_biafra
United Kingdom6641 Posts
On November 12 2008 01:32 SiegeTanksandBlueGoo wrote: Hollow, teach me how to play poker plz. New Year's resolution: Learn poker, win money. I'm with you on this one  | ||
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Gretchen
Germany128 Posts
http://www.pokerpages.com/players/lists/worlds-top-players.htm List says, Demidov is at $6,498,176 total earnings, Elky at $4,191,769. | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9376 Posts
On November 12 2008 02:57 floor exercise wrote: I'm not gonna read your essay but I'm not the one who said playing poker is a risk. Although from the stance of opportunity cost I think it is a waste of time for the majority of people in the same way video games are. All I said is you're not going to become a successful poker player just because you want to be one, and that the same logic can be applied to Starcraft If you don't read his post, then you'll be missing a great post about what poker is, and how good players make the most of their bankroll. YOU, not reading his post, means that everything you post from now on, is going to be useless, since you were too stubborn to read an "essay". Give me a break. | ||
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eXigent.
Canada2419 Posts
On November 12 2008 02:57 floor exercise wrote: I'm not gonna read your essay but I'm not the one who said playing poker is a risk. Although from the stance of opportunity cost I think it is a waste of time for the majority of people in the same way video games are. All I said is you're not going to become a successful poker player just because you want to be one, and that the same logic can be applied to Starcraft You are involved in an argument, and have stated your opinion several times already. I would imagine that if no one read your posts, you would be upset, as your opinion was just blown off. Yet here you are, stating that you wont even take the 2mins it takes to read a post by a well informed poker player, who knows what he is talking about, and who also happens to be a moderator on this site. That is just down right disrespectful, and maybe you should just stop posting if you dont plan on reading any counter arguments. | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
Saying I wasn't gonna read it was an asshole thing I admit but what I would like is to no longer be involved in a poker argument because I think I was misunderstood to begin with. All I was saying in the first place is that being good at poker isn't something that can be achieved over night and to see someone win a big cash tournament and think you will easily do the same is a terrible attitude considering the reality of online poker is that it's a soulless grind | ||
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x89titan
Philippines1130 Posts
On November 12 2008 01:19 Racenilatr wrote: what kind of poker does everyone play? i like to play hold em and badugi, but i prefer hold em. but im starting to learn all kinds of poker. have you ever played pusoi dos (spelling?) ? | ||
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Hypnosis
United States2061 Posts
On November 11 2008 22:13 Hollow wrote: uh... starting online with $10-$20 at small stakes and going up the ladder progressively is too much risk to you? well it's good that people think of it as a risky game, as long as they stay away from the goldmine it's fine by me oh its risky alright. brb depositing | ||
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Puosu
7012 Posts
On November 12 2008 03:10 Gretchen wrote: All the bitching and flaming about poker aside: http://www.pokerpages.com/players/lists/worlds-top-players.htm List says, Demidov is at $6,498,176 total earnings, Elky at $4,191,769. That does not include all the money Elky has won from online tournaments and sng's though, which I guess probably would boost Elky over Demidov. On November 12 2008 01:54 Liquid`Zephyr wrote: if i had to make some kind of guess i would imagine slayer is the richest starcraft to poker player. pretty awesome for soul to get 2nd though Slayer? Never knew. Does he play high stakes cash games only or why have I not heard of his success. :O | ||
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too much risk imo, but congrats
