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nvn
Profile Joined August 2004
Kazachstan137 Posts
June 08 2007 17:09 GMT
#141
On June 08 2007 17:11 Klogon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2007 15:06 nvn wrote:
henry declared today his disappointment for the leave of a "vice-president" in arsenal (sorry but i dont remember exactly the name) and said that this man represented a lot for him and that he dont even wants to know why he leave and so on... as in these days happen the media got some sort of invention in this: gilardino in the last days said that he was unhappy and blabla, galliani answered him that if someone wants to spend 25M on gila, he was free to go away. this is the preface of the "journalist case" called "henry at milan" which i higly doubt for a bunch of reason: 1st of all these reasons is that in italy we are very deluded by english striker (of course hernry is not english but played a lot of yrs there) cause premier and serie a are very different and those striker who do well in premier totally sucked in our serie a (one for all ian rush liverpool to juve) while it's not true the opposite (one for all bergkamp from inter to arsenal) ... so it's a enormous risk for italian (big) teams to buy a striker from premier...
2nd on a totally different side: today gila and galliani maked love saying that it was a totally misunderstandment and so on (usually bullshit )

Rossi did pretty well for Parma while on loan. Not the best example, but I'm just saying the adjustment problem probably goes both ways.


well agreed 99%: the adjustment problem goes both ways...
rossi did GREAT at parma (but parma is not a "big team", and rossi is a young italian school striker, even if at man.utd in the last yrs)
corradi fails at man.city (? not sure), montella fails too

but what i was pointting out is a sort of "common sense" here in italy in which ALL the big teams, those who wants ompetitive in serie a, dont even think about to buy a striker from premierleague
white_box921
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United Kingdom967 Posts
June 08 2007 18:14 GMT
#142
On June 08 2007 17:11 Klogon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2007 15:06 nvn wrote:
henry declared today his disappointment for the leave of a "vice-president" in arsenal (sorry but i dont remember exactly the name) and said that this man represented a lot for him and that he dont even wants to know why he leave and so on... as in these days happen the media got some sort of invention in this: gilardino in the last days said that he was unhappy and blabla, galliani answered him that if someone wants to spend 25M on gila, he was free to go away. this is the preface of the "journalist case" called "henry at milan" which i higly doubt for a bunch of reason: 1st of all these reasons is that in italy we are very deluded by english striker (of course hernry is not english but played a lot of yrs there) cause premier and serie a are very different and those striker who do well in premier totally sucked in our serie a (one for all ian rush liverpool to juve) while it's not true the opposite (one for all bergkamp from inter to arsenal) ... so it's a enormous risk for italian (big) teams to buy a striker from premier...
2nd on a totally different side: today gila and galliani maked love saying that it was a totally misunderstandment and so on (usually bullshit )

Rossi did pretty well for Parma while on loan. Not the best example, but I'm just saying the adjustment problem probably goes both ways.

hm.... rossi was from italy. I think this is not a very good example. Adding to nvn list, Henry from Juv->arsenal, an obvious case where one did not make it in Italy but is a star in EPL now.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-08 19:15:54
June 08 2007 19:14 GMT
#143
Well, as far as I know, he was in born and raised in the states till around like 14 or 15, when he moved to Italy when offered a youth team deal at Parma, and a little over a year later, United brought him over to England when he was 16 and he stayed there for 3 years until now.

So although he does play for the Italian Youth National Teams... I can't say he's exactly got tons of pure ITALIAN style of soccer from his background.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
June 08 2007 19:17 GMT
#144
On June 09 2007 03:14 white_box921 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2007 17:11 Klogon wrote:
On June 08 2007 15:06 nvn wrote:
henry declared today his disappointment for the leave of a "vice-president" in arsenal (sorry but i dont remember exactly the name) and said that this man represented a lot for him and that he dont even wants to know why he leave and so on... as in these days happen the media got some sort of invention in this: gilardino in the last days said that he was unhappy and blabla, galliani answered him that if someone wants to spend 25M on gila, he was free to go away. this is the preface of the "journalist case" called "henry at milan" which i higly doubt for a bunch of reason: 1st of all these reasons is that in italy we are very deluded by english striker (of course hernry is not english but played a lot of yrs there) cause premier and serie a are very different and those striker who do well in premier totally sucked in our serie a (one for all ian rush liverpool to juve) while it's not true the opposite (one for all bergkamp from inter to arsenal) ... so it's a enormous risk for italian (big) teams to buy a striker from premier...
2nd on a totally different side: today gila and galliani maked love saying that it was a totally misunderstandment and so on (usually bullshit )

Rossi did pretty well for Parma while on loan. Not the best example, but I'm just saying the adjustment problem probably goes both ways.

hm.... rossi was from italy. I think this is not a very good example. Adding to nvn list, Henry from Juv->arsenal, an obvious case where one did not make it in Italy but is a star in EPL now.

But didn't Juventus not use Henry as a striker? I remember reading somewhere that the coach said that was probably his biggest mistake in his career. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
fbs
Profile Joined February 2003
United Kingdom2476 Posts
June 08 2007 19:24 GMT
#145
Left winger at Juve - turned into a striker by Wenger when he moved to Arsenal
nvn
Profile Joined August 2004
Kazachstan137 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-08 20:08:34
June 08 2007 20:02 GMT
#146
On June 09 2007 04:24 fbs wrote:
Left winger at Juve - turned into a striker by Wenger when he moved to Arsenal


true: wing at juve, and he was very young too

On June 09 2007 04:14 Klogon wrote:
Well, as far as I know, he was in born and raised in the states till around like 14 or 15, when he moved to Italy when offered a youth team deal at Parma, and a little over a year later, United brought him over to England when he was 16 and he stayed there for 3 years until now.

So although he does play for the Italian Youth National Teams... I can't say he's exactly got tons of pure ITALIAN style of soccer from his background.


true: he was bringed in europe by parma, whe he was 15 then moved to man.utd


edit. for those interested in this topic, this is your site for italian soccer http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/ , it gives a continuos information on every (true and more often not true) suppose movement
white_box921
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United Kingdom967 Posts
June 08 2007 23:31 GMT
#147
true, he was in italy for only a short time, but 15 is probably the time you are most capable to adapting and learning something new. He has not make his mark in EPL yet so we will see.
The thing about Henry is that he went to Juv as a left winger, where he has played all his life previously. Only Wenger know something about him being a forward because Wenger knew Henry way back in the Marsille day or whatever(I haven't really watch football at that age -_-" maybe I am wrong).
mAKiTO
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Colombia4174 Posts
June 09 2007 11:20 GMT
#148
i really wanna know where el conejito will play next season soooooon
No quiero soñar mil veces las mismas cosas
nvn
Profile Joined August 2004
Kazachstan137 Posts
June 10 2007 07:21 GMT
#149
this was the message that trezeguet sent today to all the stadium (juventus-spezia 2-3)

[image loading]


that means byebye, i'm going away
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 11 2007 03:10 GMT
#150
lol real wants beckham back
TheMusiC
Profile Joined January 2004
United States1054 Posts
June 11 2007 04:04 GMT
#151
On June 11 2007 12:10 zulu_nation8 wrote:
lol real wants beckham back


and they get a prompt "tough shit, idiots" from LA :[

silly, silly move by real to sell him, he's been playing fantastic ball lately.
Telemako
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Spain1636 Posts
June 11 2007 05:56 GMT
#152
France Football says Henry to Barça is half done. Barça will pay him 10m € (40% more than Arsenal) but Arsenal is asking 30m and Barça offers 25.
I've been around since it all started, and it feels good
HorsementalitY
Profile Joined August 2003
United States1159 Posts
June 11 2007 06:17 GMT
#153
looks like tevez might be joining inter milan now...none of the premiership teams seem to want to put up the 40 million asking price.
Women, Pot, Futbol and Music
ohoh~troubles
Profile Joined July 2006
Korea (South)70 Posts
June 11 2007 06:33 GMT
#154
Ey Raidern.. What about Eduardo Ratinho and Willian from Corinthians? Are they any good ?
☼Ñ☼Ñ
bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal864 Posts
June 11 2007 15:59 GMT
#155
Juve Want Tiago from Lyon, But Lyon asks for 18M € for him.
Eduardo Ratinho and Willian will probably come to Benfica in exchange for Anderson (Defender Center) and some moneyz :O
Oscar Cardozo is linked with Porto and Gladstone is going on a loan to Sporting.
Figo will play one more year in Inter.
Everton wants manuel fernandes but benfica asks too much money (10M). He's been on loan in everton for the past hal year.
mAKiTO
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Colombia4174 Posts
June 14 2007 03:25 GMT
#156
Trezeguet is linked with Liverpool and arsenal
No quiero soñar mil veces las mismas cosas
Musli
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Poland5130 Posts
June 14 2007 04:37 GMT
#157
Dudek is linked with Real Madrid !
LOL

Go Barca ! (=
Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall || mail/msn: muslii@gmail.com
Raidern
Profile Joined February 2005
Brazil3811 Posts
June 14 2007 09:59 GMT
#158
i don't watch corinthians (they play for corinthians, ratinho and william)
last time I saw william he sucked HARD at south america sub20 in the beginning of this year, but they say he is playing well for corinthians now, is one of their key players etc.

ratinho I never payed any attention to him, only know his name
For the Swarm!
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
June 14 2007 11:02 GMT
#159
trezeguet to the EPL?? that would be pretty cool...he used to be among the elite strikers back in the day...and real madrid, funny shit...
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
June 14 2007 16:46 GMT
#160
Henry to Barca may be fake. It is reported in 3rd person. There's no quotes or shit.

Trezeguet lately for the last few years in the eyes of the public, is someone who botches up everytime they watch him. Yeah, I still do remember him being a great scorer last time.

I read that Arsenal are attempting to get Trezeguet. He is also Henry's French teammate and also because that Henry wants a big signing to keep him at the club.

Last quote from Henry "I am for now an Arsenal player."
"Eyes in the sky."
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