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mAKiTO
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Colombia4171 Posts
June 19 2007 08:00 GMT
#201
In my opinion marquez isnt good enough to play in barca, I watched almost every single game of barca this season and he made big mistakes in a lot of games, especially in champions league he made a huge mistake vs chelsea i think? or bremen i dont recall exacly, Im not saying that a player should be perfect because they are all humans, but marquez just isnt good enough for barca I think.



hes linked with many clubs in seria a , including Juve, Fiore, and even milan but that last one is very unlikely.

In Barca we deff need a good right winger, and a good center defender. Other than that I dont even think the team needs more players.maybe a defensive midfilder and a good sub foward,( they shouldve kept Saviola fucking rijkard)

Thuram is too old and is not in shape for barca anymore, I dont even know why they bought him in the first place. He was really good back in day.

Iniesta, Dinho, Xavi, and Deco are perfect. Messi, Eto'o and Dos Santos are perfect
Zambrotta, and Puyol are perfect too. Valdez is ok..




No quiero soñar mil veces las mismas cosas
whatever
Profile Joined July 2005
Mexico693 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-19 10:03:55
June 19 2007 09:59 GMT
#202
Barcelona needs a left back (Abidal or that Ajax leftback), and either a central back(i read Pique) or defensive mid (Toure). This season I blame their failure on injuries of top players (they took a lot to regain their level) and a simply bad year of other players possibly due to lack of motivation, arrogance or bad preseason dunno.

I see Barcelona winning the season next year, being dominant. If Madrid brings Kaka then they will put up a fight, but Barça with Eto'o(if he stays or any other top forward they get), Messi, Dinho, Dos Santos, Bojan up there is just too strong.

And Marquez, just as Rijkaard, you want them out just for one bad year? wtf makito.

edit: I believe Barça needs to get rid of Motta, Edmilson, Guddy, Giuly and Deco(Iniesta > him).
Time is always on my side
mAKiTO
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Colombia4171 Posts
June 19 2007 12:13 GMT
#203
Well I never liked Rijkaard, hes not a good coach, hes a good motivator, a lot of sports critics agree with this. With all the players that barcelona had, the team couldve played by itself. Well not the 1st year, but 2 and 3 yes. Rijkaard started doing mixes of line ups and formations in very important games, instead of playing with what they knew worked. example 1st game vs zaragoza in copa del rey, clasico barca v real, first game vs liverpool, and i could keep going.

You defend marquez because of nationality, thats fine, Im not saying he sucks overall, he had a good first year, but it seemed that this year was too much for him.

I agree that Barcelonas injuries fucked up pretty bad, but saviola was there and he did awesome, 11 goals in 24 games, in which when he was playing every game he scored 8 goals in 6 games, and then rijkaard stopped using him. I think if he wouldve used Saviola more instead of eskimo they wouldve done a lot better.

I wish they bring young players not like 29> and up
No quiero soñar mil veces las mismas cosas
Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
June 19 2007 14:01 GMT
#204
On June 19 2007 18:59 whatever wrote:
Barcelona needs a left back (Abidal or that Ajax leftback), and either a central back(i read Pique) or defensive mid (Toure). This season I blame their failure on injuries of top players (they took a lot to regain their level) and a simply bad year of other players possibly due to lack of motivation, arrogance or bad preseason dunno.

I see Barcelona winning the season next year, being dominant. If Madrid brings Kaka then they will put up a fight, but Barça with Eto'o(if he stays or any other top forward they get), Messi, Dinho, Dos Santos, Bojan up there is just too strong.

And Marquez, just as Rijkaard, you want them out just for one bad year? wtf makito.

edit: I believe Barça needs to get rid of Motta, Edmilson, Guddy, Giuly and Deco(Iniesta > him).


you seriously think that one player even though it's kaka, agrueablely the best football player at the moment, will decide if Madrid can compete with Bacra?
if you have a good collective (of course the players need a certain amount of skill) and are good defenders/fighters you can be so good and you can definitely win La Liga.

Btw, no real big club wants Saviola?
that's kind of weird, he is a good forward (if he plays) and proved this several times
he was even in Argentinia's (first?) squad at the worldcup in germany
whatever
Profile Joined July 2005
Mexico693 Posts
June 19 2007 15:03 GMT
#205
On June 19 2007 23:01 Sadir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2007 18:59 whatever wrote:
Barcelona needs a left back (Abidal or that Ajax leftback), and either a central back(i read Pique) or defensive mid (Toure). This season I blame their failure on injuries of top players (they took a lot to regain their level) and a simply bad year of other players possibly due to lack of motivation, arrogance or bad preseason dunno.

I see Barcelona winning the season next year, being dominant. If Madrid brings Kaka then they will put up a fight, but Barça with Eto'o(if he stays or any other top forward they get), Messi, Dinho, Dos Santos, Bojan up there is just too strong.

And Marquez, just as Rijkaard, you want them out just for one bad year? wtf makito.

edit: I believe Barça needs to get rid of Motta, Edmilson, Guddy, Giuly and Deco(Iniesta > him).


you seriously think that one player even though it's kaka, agrueablely the best football player at the moment, will decide if Madrid can compete with Bacra?
if you have a good collective (of course the players need a certain amount of skill) and are good defenders/fighters you can be so good and you can definitely win La Liga.

Btw, no real big club wants Saviola?
that's kind of weird, he is a good forward (if he plays) and proved this several times
he was even in Argentinia's (first?) squad at the worldcup in germany

I get what you say. Try to imagine this seasonçs Milan without him, big difference eh? do you think they could have win CL?

I think collective play and order can only take you so far, in my opinion you need "different players" to really make it big, but indeed there have been several times when this isn´t the case (ie Greece 2004, playing horrible football but still).
Time is always on my side
bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal862 Posts
June 19 2007 15:32 GMT
#206
Oscar Cardozo in benfica for 8M€
Bergessio probably in benfica to for 2.5M for 50% of the pass.
Bayern Munich wants Klose.
Mourinho says he wont have big transfers this summer and wont use a lot of money.
mAKiTO
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Colombia4171 Posts
June 19 2007 16:25 GMT
#207
On June 19 2007 23:01 Sadir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2007 18:59 whatever wrote:
Barcelona needs a left back (Abidal or that Ajax leftback), and either a central back(i read Pique) or defensive mid (Toure). This season I blame their failure on injuries of top players (they took a lot to regain their level) and a simply bad year of other players possibly due to lack of motivation, arrogance or bad preseason dunno.

I see Barcelona winning the season next year, being dominant. If Madrid brings Kaka then they will put up a fight, but Barça with Eto'o(if he stays or any other top forward they get), Messi, Dinho, Dos Santos, Bojan up there is just too strong.

And Marquez, just as Rijkaard, you want them out just for one bad year? wtf makito.

edit: I believe Barça needs to get rid of Motta, Edmilson, Guddy, Giuly and Deco(Iniesta > him).


you seriously think that one player even though it's kaka, agrueablely the best football player at the moment, will decide if Madrid can compete with Bacra?
if you have a good collective (of course the players need a certain amount of skill) and are good defenders/fighters you can be so good and you can definitely win La Liga.

Btw, no real big club wants Saviola?
that's kind of weird, he is a good forward (if he plays) and proved this several times
he was even in Argentinia's (first?) squad at the worldcup in germany


Saviola is supposedly wanted by many big clubs, somehow I think he is going to end up in Zaragoza which would be great. But as like ribery he said he wants to play Champions League.
No quiero soñar mil veces las mismas cosas
Telemako
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Spain1636 Posts
June 19 2007 20:45 GMT
#208
Laporta (Barça's president) stated that they will sign 1 left defender, 1 center defender, 1 or 2 middlefielders and 1 or 2 forwards.
I've been around since it all started, and it feels good
Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
June 20 2007 02:12 GMT
#209
On June 20 2007 00:03 whatever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2007 23:01 Sadir wrote:
On June 19 2007 18:59 whatever wrote:
Barcelona needs a left back (Abidal or that Ajax leftback), and either a central back(i read Pique) or defensive mid (Toure). This season I blame their failure on injuries of top players (they took a lot to regain their level) and a simply bad year of other players possibly due to lack of motivation, arrogance or bad preseason dunno.

I see Barcelona winning the season next year, being dominant. If Madrid brings Kaka then they will put up a fight, but Barça with Eto'o(if he stays or any other top forward they get), Messi, Dinho, Dos Santos, Bojan up there is just too strong.

And Marquez, just as Rijkaard, you want them out just for one bad year? wtf makito.

edit: I believe Barça needs to get rid of Motta, Edmilson, Guddy, Giuly and Deco(Iniesta > him).


you seriously think that one player even though it's kaka, agrueablely the best football player at the moment, will decide if Madrid can compete with Bacra?
if you have a good collective (of course the players need a certain amount of skill) and are good defenders/fighters you can be so good and you can definitely win La Liga.

Btw, no real big club wants Saviola?
that's kind of weird, he is a good forward (if he plays) and proved this several times
he was even in Argentinia's (first?) squad at the worldcup in germany

I get what you say. Try to imagine this seasonçs Milan without him, big difference eh? do you think they could have win CL?

I think collective play and order can only take you so far, in my opinion you need "different players" to really make it big, but indeed there have been several times when this isn´t the case (ie Greece 2004, playing horrible football but still).


try to imagine:
ManU without C. Ronaldo
Real withouth van Nistelroy
Barca without Messi...

past is past...done
whereas future is open, anything can happen

especially Ronaldinhio gave us a good exampel how performance can change drasticly:
he fucking dominated in 2006 till CL finals and is just "average" next season.
nvn
Profile Joined August 2004
Kazachstan137 Posts
June 20 2007 02:25 GMT
#210
On Inter. They're risking a "retrocessione" from Serie A to Serie B, because of some illecit acts in season 2005-06. This could be a new "typical italian scandal" that give new scenarios to transfers.
As an italian I doubt very high this is gonna happen, but this kind of news is getting a bigger space on media day by day...

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/index.php?action=read&id=63679

http://www.calciomercato.com/index.php?c=21&a=46344

http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Primo_Piano/2007/06_Giugno/20/giustiziasportiva.shtml
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 20 2007 02:39 GMT
#211
what kind of acts?
Freaky[x]
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada995 Posts
June 20 2007 03:17 GMT
#212
Netherlands win vs England under 21 in UEFA Europe cup or whatever. Anybody watch the penalty shootout!? ... 22 penalties (each) or something like that
fbs
Profile Joined February 2003
United Kingdom2476 Posts
June 20 2007 03:37 GMT
#213
Yea made me do an extra 30 mins at the gym watching it, it wasn't as many as 22 each, 13-12 it finished and I reckon England missed 4
nvn
Profile Joined August 2004
Kazachstan137 Posts
June 20 2007 04:01 GMT
#214
On June 20 2007 11:39 zulu_nation8 wrote:
what kind of acts?


Illecit economics acts, do make sense in english "false balance"? Meaning that you sell a player for 1mln and make result that you selled him for 10mln... dont know how to explain it better.
Shouldnt be anything of horrible like "falsing result" (like juventus did last year) but just something REALLY stupid due for the most to inexperience (and at this level, is really LOL ).
Freaky[x]
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada995 Posts
June 20 2007 04:48 GMT
#215
Ya you are right fbs, did you also watch the game between serbia and belgium? It wasn't as exciting as the netherlands and england game, but it was still not bad. It should be an interesting final. Both teams seem to be keen on attacking a lot and that's always interesting.
nvn
Profile Joined August 2004
Kazachstan137 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-06-20 05:36:36
June 20 2007 05:33 GMT
#216
Italian co-property ending term was 19.00 cet today. These the results. "Buste" means that the two teams didnt find an economic agree and they will go to a sort of "auction". "Rinnovo comproprietà" means that the two teams will go ahead with the co-property situation for another year.

Pizarro [Inter-Roma) = ROMA
Quagliarella (Samp-Udinese) = BUSTE
Makinwa (Lazio-Palermo) = BUSTE
Nocerino (Piacenza-Juve) = JUVE
Molinaro (Siena-Juve) = JUVE
Cassetti (Roma-Lecce) = BUSTE
Comotto (Roma-Torino) = BUSTE
Domizzi (Samp-Napoli) = NAPOLI
Pepe (Udinese-Cagliari) = BUSTE
Carrozzieri (Samp-Atalanta) ATALANTA
Matteini (Empoli-Palermo) = BUSTE
Scurto (Roma-Chievo) = CHIEVO
Boudianski (Ascoli-Juve) = ASCOLI
Gastaldello (Siena-Juve) = JUVE, che poi lo gira a titolo definitivo alla SAMP
Gasbarroni (Juve-Parma) = PARMA
Adriano da Silva (Atalanta-Palermo) = ATALANTA
Diakitè (Pescara-Lazio) = LAZIO
Parravicini (Fiorentina-Palermo) = acquistato a titolo definitivo dal PARMA
Corvia (Siena-Roma) = SIENA
Dossena (Treviso-Udinese) = UDINESE
Ferronetti (Parma-Roma) = PARMA
Pozzi (Empoli-Milan) = RINNOVO COMPROPRIETA'
Antonini (Milan-Samp) = MILAN
Coda (Empoli-Udinese) = BUSTE
Bocchetti (Parma-Piacenza) = PARMA
Konko e Masiello (Siena-Genoa) = BUSTE
Paoletti (Messina-Udinese) = RINNOVO COMPROPRIETA'
Codrea (Siena-Palermo) = SIENA
Motta (Atalanta-Udinese) = UDINESE
Ferri (Cagliari-Palermo) = CAGLIARI
Bonanni e Terlizzi (Samp-Palermo) = RINNOVO COMPROPRIETA'
Foti e Pieri (Samp-Udinese) = RINNOVO COMPROPRIETA'
Danilevicius (Livorno-Bologna) = RINNOVO COMPROPRIETA'
Edusei (Samp-Catania) = CATANIA
Pasquale (Inter-Livorno) = LIVORNO


edit. bolded the italian youngster with a sure future
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 20 2007 06:29 GMT
#217
so this means quagliarella will definitely not be co-owned for next season? and also it will be easier for utd to buy him?
Telemako
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Spain1636 Posts
June 20 2007 07:00 GMT
#218
I think it means that Sampdoria and Udinese will have an auction and the highest bidder will take him, so if the bid goes very high, ManU will have to pay over that price to make the owner team worth the deal. Probably that will make Quagliarella more expensive.

Gaby Milito linked with Real Madrid. Zaragoza recently broke negotiations with Juventus and they are now talking with RM. The funny thing is that RM was the original buyer of Milito 4 years ago but then they found a "supposed" injury in his knee (that never took place) and signed Walter Samuel instead. The result was a total failure with Samuel, and a huge success by Milito at Zaragoza and now, RM is going to pay more than three times Milito's first price.
I've been around since it all started, and it feels good
mAKiTO
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Colombia4171 Posts
June 20 2007 07:23 GMT
#219
lol thats awesome, I like milito
No quiero soñar mil veces las mismas cosas
nvn
Profile Joined August 2004
Kazachstan137 Posts
June 21 2007 00:16 GMT
#220
Tiago (midfielder 26yrs, Lione) to Juventus
Almiron (midfielder 25yrs, Empoli) to Juventus

Both given as semi-official on national tv a while ago.
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