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Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
June 25 2017 23:37 GMT
#41
On June 26 2017 08:22 Clonester wrote:
Its not a comeback when it is one CT side.


huh?
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
June 26 2017 07:36 GMT
#42
Apparently winning a half 13-2 while being down 2-13 does not qualify as a comeback for mysterious reasons.
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Germany2808 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-26 08:26:45
June 26 2017 08:25 GMT
#43
Its a heavily CT-sided map and the result of 13-2 is not out of proportion. That both teams get this result is perfectly fine and yes, does not qualify for a comeback for me, as its not a "strange result" against the odds.
And you saw it on overtime how much the comeback was worth it, Faze couldnt get the one T round to save a new overtime. The "comeback" was purely driven by the normal way the ct sided map plays out and followed a normal route.
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Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
June 26 2017 08:36 GMT
#44
A few things:
- Train is not 13-2 CT sided. It's closer to 8-7 / 9-6 in favor of the CTs.
- No matter how the map is working out in that sense, seeing an opponent being 9 rounds ahead of you *has* an effect on the mental and you have to cope with it.

So a team replying to a 13-2 half with a 13-2 half is actually still kind of a mini-big deal, no matter the map involved.

And about the OT bit, I would credit SK way more for the way it unfolded than saying "FaZe couldn't do X and that's normal and their comeback wasn't worth it".
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Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 26 2017 09:05 GMT
#45
I don't particular enjoy watching games on train. They feel super boring. But that final was... wow!
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Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
June 26 2017 11:48 GMT
#46
Train is a great map do spectate and to play, i really like it..

For instance i feel game on overpass is great to watch but the map is not fun to play outside of real team games.

Cache, Cbble, Inferno, Train, Mirage, Nuke, Overpass are all great maps for mea atleast.

The finals was great and i agree that a 13-2 half is really hard to comeback but faze managed it and SK is heavily favored in train imo

When i watched the 3 maps i was sure that SK would win if it came down to Train but faze put a hell of a fight
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
June 26 2017 12:27 GMT
#47
SK Gaming! Just caught up with the vods finally as i couldn't watch the finals live. What a finals! SK clutching it in over time! I must say Fallen has played superb that lan! Felps also stepping up big time. Cold looks like he has one right now which is a shame but when Fer is just going crazy every map then you don't need all 5 of SK to turn up, just need 4 of em!

2 lans in a row before the Major, triple hype?!
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Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-06-26 12:57:45
June 26 2017 12:55 GMT
#48
On June 26 2017 17:36 Ragnarork wrote:
A few things:
- Train is not 13-2 CT sided. It's closer to 8-7 / 9-6 in favor of the CTs.
- No matter how the map is working out in that sense, seeing an opponent being 9 rounds ahead of you *has* an effect on the mental and you have to cope with it.

So a team replying to a 13-2 half with a 13-2 half is actually still kind of a mini-big deal, no matter the map involved.

And about the OT bit, I would credit SK way more for the way it unfolded than saying "FaZe couldn't do X and that's normal and their comeback wasn't worth it".


Yeah, what he said...i wouldn't even call it a mini big deal. In an elimination game in a final of a big tournament, its just a big deal period. And its not like SK didnt try a bunch of different things but Niko and Allu were just going off like no tomorrow.

The amount of multi frags from Niko in spots other players would get traded was absolutely insane.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
June 26 2017 13:03 GMT
#49
On June 26 2017 21:27 Pandemona wrote:
SK Gaming! Just caught up with the vods finally as i couldn't watch the finals live. What a finals! SK clutching it in over time! I must say Fallen has played superb that lan! Felps also stepping up big time. Cold looks like he has one right now which is a shame but when Fer is just going crazy every map then you don't need all 5 of SK to turn up, just need 4 of em!

2 lans in a row before the Major, triple hype?!


The biggest surprise for me was how felps integrated in that lineup and how it's working right now. He's become an SK member for sure, not a Coldzera or a fer, but definitely carved his place among these guys.

Two months ago I was still doubtful this would happen.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
June 26 2017 14:30 GMT
#50
Very very epic Grand Finals O.O I didnt catch it live but spoilerfreed till after vods. OMG Wallen for real, so many timing shots, he is just too fucking good... Train was buttclenching stuff, sad FaZe didnt pull through :'(
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