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On May 07 2015 10:04 Souma wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 10:00 pyro19 wrote:On May 07 2015 09:54 Souma wrote:On May 07 2015 09:45 pyro19 wrote:
Elige seems so far off from the player he was on Elevate. Liquid really need a shotcaller and fast. Well that's why adreN's IGLing although he hasn't even had a week yet to acclimate. At this point you either hope adreN adapts and improves or bring on someone else to IGL, but there aren't many good IGLs in NA. Only hades would be poachable probably. Adren has been IGL'ing before FaceIT LAN (Dustmouret confirmed in his video.). They really need a better IGL or a good coach (warden is a shit player/coach) adren confirmed himself at Faceit that he only became IGL one day before the LAN. The only other time adren was IGL it was a short stint in the beginning and then he decided to focus on his AWPing. Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 10:02 ptbl wrote:
Maybe adren is the problem? He seems to have declined in skill and his in game shotcalling has been mediocre. adreN can generally frag and clutch well enough when he's not calling. Really all they need is a good IGL and this team will go places.
This team is not going anywhere. They simply aren't fraggers except for nitr0. No IGL alive is going to fix a team that can't kill anyone. For real, nitr0 is the only player somewhat worth keeping, maybe elige on a good day. There is a reason adren retired from csgo in the first year after its release, and bringing him back was a mistake from the getgo. Don't even get me started on daps. This team is doing more harm to the liquid brand than good.
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On May 07 2015 10:04 Souma wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 10:00 pyro19 wrote:On May 07 2015 09:54 Souma wrote:On May 07 2015 09:45 pyro19 wrote:
Elige seems so far off from the player he was on Elevate. Liquid really need a shotcaller and fast. Well that's why adreN's IGLing although he hasn't even had a week yet to acclimate. At this point you either hope adreN adapts and improves or bring on someone else to IGL, but there aren't many good IGLs in NA. Only hades would be poachable probably. Adren has been IGL'ing before FaceIT LAN (Dustmouret confirmed in his video.). They really need a better IGL or a good coach (warden is a shit player/coach) adren confirmed himself at Faceit that he only became IGL one day before the LAN. The only other time adren was IGL it was a short stint in the beginning and then he decided to focus on his AWPing. Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 10:02 ptbl wrote:
Maybe adren is the problem? He seems to have declined in skill and his in game shotcalling has been mediocre. adreN can generally frag and clutch well enough when he's not calling. Really all they need is a good IGL and this team will go places.
I agree , they have 3 insane fraggers in Elige , Fugly and Nitro and Adren is a decent awper (NA Smithzz). I'm really confused with this A2Z pickup , what's his role in the team?
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On May 07 2015 10:10 johnbongham wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 10:04 Souma wrote:On May 07 2015 10:00 pyro19 wrote:On May 07 2015 09:54 Souma wrote:On May 07 2015 09:45 pyro19 wrote:
Elige seems so far off from the player he was on Elevate. Liquid really need a shotcaller and fast. Well that's why adreN's IGLing although he hasn't even had a week yet to acclimate. At this point you either hope adreN adapts and improves or bring on someone else to IGL, but there aren't many good IGLs in NA. Only hades would be poachable probably. Adren has been IGL'ing before FaceIT LAN (Dustmouret confirmed in his video.). They really need a better IGL or a good coach (warden is a shit player/coach) adren confirmed himself at Faceit that he only became IGL one day before the LAN. The only other time adren was IGL it was a short stint in the beginning and then he decided to focus on his AWPing. On May 07 2015 10:02 ptbl wrote:
Maybe adren is the problem? He seems to have declined in skill and his in game shotcalling has been mediocre. adreN can generally frag and clutch well enough when he's not calling. Really all they need is a good IGL and this team will go places. This team is not going anywhere. They simply aren't fraggers except for nitr0. No IGL alive is going to fix a team that can't kill anyone. For real, nitr0 is the only player somewhat worth keeping, maybe elige on a good day. There is a reason adren retired from csgo in the first year after its release, and bringing him back was a mistake from the getgo. Don't even get me started on daps. This team is doing more harm to the liquid brand than good.
Uhm, have you been watching Liquid? Their best player has been FugLy in most games, nitr0 in others. EliGE not really ever but they're using him wrong (that's an IGL thing).
On May 07 2015 10:11 pyro19 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 10:04 Souma wrote:On May 07 2015 10:00 pyro19 wrote:On May 07 2015 09:54 Souma wrote:On May 07 2015 09:45 pyro19 wrote:
Elige seems so far off from the player he was on Elevate. Liquid really need a shotcaller and fast. Well that's why adreN's IGLing although he hasn't even had a week yet to acclimate. At this point you either hope adreN adapts and improves or bring on someone else to IGL, but there aren't many good IGLs in NA. Only hades would be poachable probably. Adren has been IGL'ing before FaceIT LAN (Dustmouret confirmed in his video.). They really need a better IGL or a good coach (warden is a shit player/coach) adren confirmed himself at Faceit that he only became IGL one day before the LAN. The only other time adren was IGL it was a short stint in the beginning and then he decided to focus on his AWPing. On May 07 2015 10:02 ptbl wrote:
Maybe adren is the problem? He seems to have declined in skill and his in game shotcalling has been mediocre. adreN can generally frag and clutch well enough when he's not calling. Really all they need is a good IGL and this team will go places. I agree , they have 3 insane fraggers in Elige , Fugly and Nitro and Adren is a decent awper (NA Smithzz). I'm really confused with this A2Z pickup , what's his role in the team?
Not really sure. Maybe they're hoping he'll bring some experience to the team? He's been around the NA scene for a while though not for any top teams.
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On May 07 2015 10:11 Souma wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 10:10 johnbongham wrote:On May 07 2015 10:04 Souma wrote:On May 07 2015 10:00 pyro19 wrote:On May 07 2015 09:54 Souma wrote:On May 07 2015 09:45 pyro19 wrote:
Elige seems so far off from the player he was on Elevate. Liquid really need a shotcaller and fast. Well that's why adreN's IGLing although he hasn't even had a week yet to acclimate. At this point you either hope adreN adapts and improves or bring on someone else to IGL, but there aren't many good IGLs in NA. Only hades would be poachable probably. Adren has been IGL'ing before FaceIT LAN (Dustmouret confirmed in his video.). They really need a better IGL or a good coach (warden is a shit player/coach) adren confirmed himself at Faceit that he only became IGL one day before the LAN. The only other time adren was IGL it was a short stint in the beginning and then he decided to focus on his AWPing. On May 07 2015 10:02 ptbl wrote:
Maybe adren is the problem? He seems to have declined in skill and his in game shotcalling has been mediocre. adreN can generally frag and clutch well enough when he's not calling. Really all they need is a good IGL and this team will go places. This team is not going anywhere. They simply aren't fraggers except for nitr0. No IGL alive is going to fix a team that can't kill anyone. For real, nitr0 is the only player somewhat worth keeping, maybe elige on a good day. There is a reason adren retired from csgo in the first year after its release, and bringing him back was a mistake from the getgo. Don't even get me started on daps. This team is doing more harm to the liquid brand than good. Uhm, have you been watching Liquid? Their best player has been FugLy in most games, nitr0 in others. EliGE not really ever but they're using him wrong (that's an IGL thing).
Honestly, no I don't watch them anymore, I learned my lesson since when I had my hopes up int he beginning. I like adren, he is a good guy, he just isnt fit for the level of play that is needed for a top 10 team. And now I see they kicked daps. Thank god. Thats a start I guess, but best bet is to blow the whole team up and build one from scratch. Liquid really dropped the ball when hiko and skadoodle were available.
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On May 07 2015 10:10 johnbongham wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 10:04 Souma wrote:On May 07 2015 10:00 pyro19 wrote:On May 07 2015 09:54 Souma wrote:On May 07 2015 09:45 pyro19 wrote:
Elige seems so far off from the player he was on Elevate. Liquid really need a shotcaller and fast. Well that's why adreN's IGLing although he hasn't even had a week yet to acclimate. At this point you either hope adreN adapts and improves or bring on someone else to IGL, but there aren't many good IGLs in NA. Only hades would be poachable probably. Adren has been IGL'ing before FaceIT LAN (Dustmouret confirmed in his video.). They really need a better IGL or a good coach (warden is a shit player/coach) adren confirmed himself at Faceit that he only became IGL one day before the LAN. The only other time adren was IGL it was a short stint in the beginning and then he decided to focus on his AWPing. On May 07 2015 10:02 ptbl wrote:
Maybe adren is the problem? He seems to have declined in skill and his in game shotcalling has been mediocre. adreN can generally frag and clutch well enough when he's not calling. Really all they need is a good IGL and this team will go places. This team is not going anywhere. They simply aren't fraggers except for nitr0. No IGL alive is going to fix a team that can't kill anyone. For real, nitr0 is the only player somewhat worth keeping, maybe elige on a good day. There is a reason adren retired from csgo in the first year after its release, and bringing him back was a mistake from the getgo. Don't even get me started on daps. This team is doing more harm to the liquid brand than good.
There's constructive criticism and then there's hate posts like yours.
Fugly has been outperforming Nitro for the past 2 months. Nitro and Elige have already shown that they're beasts on LAN and Daps isn't even on the team.
Adren when he's not shotcalling is a pretty decent awper.
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On May 07 2015 10:14 johnbongham wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 10:11 Souma wrote:On May 07 2015 10:10 johnbongham wrote:On May 07 2015 10:04 Souma wrote:On May 07 2015 10:00 pyro19 wrote:On May 07 2015 09:54 Souma wrote:On May 07 2015 09:45 pyro19 wrote:
Elige seems so far off from the player he was on Elevate. Liquid really need a shotcaller and fast. Well that's why adreN's IGLing although he hasn't even had a week yet to acclimate. At this point you either hope adreN adapts and improves or bring on someone else to IGL, but there aren't many good IGLs in NA. Only hades would be poachable probably. Adren has been IGL'ing before FaceIT LAN (Dustmouret confirmed in his video.). They really need a better IGL or a good coach (warden is a shit player/coach) adren confirmed himself at Faceit that he only became IGL one day before the LAN. The only other time adren was IGL it was a short stint in the beginning and then he decided to focus on his AWPing. On May 07 2015 10:02 ptbl wrote:
Maybe adren is the problem? He seems to have declined in skill and his in game shotcalling has been mediocre. adreN can generally frag and clutch well enough when he's not calling. Really all they need is a good IGL and this team will go places. This team is not going anywhere. They simply aren't fraggers except for nitr0. No IGL alive is going to fix a team that can't kill anyone. For real, nitr0 is the only player somewhat worth keeping, maybe elige on a good day. There is a reason adren retired from csgo in the first year after its release, and bringing him back was a mistake from the getgo. Don't even get me started on daps. This team is doing more harm to the liquid brand than good. Uhm, have you been watching Liquid? Their best player has been FugLy in most games, nitr0 in others. EliGE not really ever but they're using him wrong (that's an IGL thing). Honestly, no I don't watch them anymore, I learned my lesson since when I had my hopes up int he beginning. I like adren, he is a good guy, he just isnt fit for the level of play that is needed for a top 10 team. And now I see they kicked daps. Thank god. Thats a start I guess, but best bet is to blow the whole team up and build one from scratch. Liquid really dropped the ball when hiko and skadoodle were available.
Hiko and Skadoodle didn't wanna join Liquid? Wtf do you want them to do.
I hate to post this here but , How Much?
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On May 07 2015 10:16 pyro19 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 10:14 johnbongham wrote:On May 07 2015 10:11 Souma wrote:On May 07 2015 10:10 johnbongham wrote:On May 07 2015 10:04 Souma wrote:On May 07 2015 10:00 pyro19 wrote:On May 07 2015 09:54 Souma wrote:On May 07 2015 09:45 pyro19 wrote:
Elige seems so far off from the player he was on Elevate. Liquid really need a shotcaller and fast. Well that's why adreN's IGLing although he hasn't even had a week yet to acclimate. At this point you either hope adreN adapts and improves or bring on someone else to IGL, but there aren't many good IGLs in NA. Only hades would be poachable probably. Adren has been IGL'ing before FaceIT LAN (Dustmouret confirmed in his video.). They really need a better IGL or a good coach (warden is a shit player/coach) adren confirmed himself at Faceit that he only became IGL one day before the LAN. The only other time adren was IGL it was a short stint in the beginning and then he decided to focus on his AWPing. On May 07 2015 10:02 ptbl wrote:
Maybe adren is the problem? He seems to have declined in skill and his in game shotcalling has been mediocre. adreN can generally frag and clutch well enough when he's not calling. Really all they need is a good IGL and this team will go places. This team is not going anywhere. They simply aren't fraggers except for nitr0. No IGL alive is going to fix a team that can't kill anyone. For real, nitr0 is the only player somewhat worth keeping, maybe elige on a good day. There is a reason adren retired from csgo in the first year after its release, and bringing him back was a mistake from the getgo. Don't even get me started on daps. This team is doing more harm to the liquid brand than good. Uhm, have you been watching Liquid? Their best player has been FugLy in most games, nitr0 in others. EliGE not really ever but they're using him wrong (that's an IGL thing). Honestly, no I don't watch them anymore, I learned my lesson since when I had my hopes up int he beginning. I like adren, he is a good guy, he just isnt fit for the level of play that is needed for a top 10 team. And now I see they kicked daps. Thank god. Thats a start I guess, but best bet is to blow the whole team up and build one from scratch. Liquid really dropped the ball when hiko and skadoodle were available. Hiko and Skadoodle didn't wanna join Liquid? Wtf do you want them to do. I hate to post this here but , How Much?
I don't play csgo anymore nor have I ever bet a single skin so you can save it. They didn't want to join because they didnt want to play with this team as it stands now. Hiko knows better than anyone that adren has no place on this roster. He has been crushing adren since the game was released.
Please show me a single csgo roster under contract for a major esports org with results as dismal as liquid's that hasn't already been blown up. There is none. Its not hate its truth.
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On May 07 2015 10:14 johnbongham wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 10:11 Souma wrote:On May 07 2015 10:10 johnbongham wrote:On May 07 2015 10:04 Souma wrote:On May 07 2015 10:00 pyro19 wrote:On May 07 2015 09:54 Souma wrote:On May 07 2015 09:45 pyro19 wrote:
Elige seems so far off from the player he was on Elevate. Liquid really need a shotcaller and fast. Well that's why adreN's IGLing although he hasn't even had a week yet to acclimate. At this point you either hope adreN adapts and improves or bring on someone else to IGL, but there aren't many good IGLs in NA. Only hades would be poachable probably. Adren has been IGL'ing before FaceIT LAN (Dustmouret confirmed in his video.). They really need a better IGL or a good coach (warden is a shit player/coach) adren confirmed himself at Faceit that he only became IGL one day before the LAN. The only other time adren was IGL it was a short stint in the beginning and then he decided to focus on his AWPing. On May 07 2015 10:02 ptbl wrote:
Maybe adren is the problem? He seems to have declined in skill and his in game shotcalling has been mediocre. adreN can generally frag and clutch well enough when he's not calling. Really all they need is a good IGL and this team will go places. This team is not going anywhere. They simply aren't fraggers except for nitr0. No IGL alive is going to fix a team that can't kill anyone. For real, nitr0 is the only player somewhat worth keeping, maybe elige on a good day. There is a reason adren retired from csgo in the first year after its release, and bringing him back was a mistake from the getgo. Don't even get me started on daps. This team is doing more harm to the liquid brand than good. Uhm, have you been watching Liquid? Their best player has been FugLy in most games, nitr0 in others. EliGE not really ever but they're using him wrong (that's an IGL thing). Honestly, no I don't watch them anymore, I learned my lesson since when I had my hopes up int he beginning. I like adren, he is a good guy, he just isnt fit for the level of play that is needed for a top 10 team. And now I see they kicked daps. Thank god. Thats a start I guess, but best bet is to blow the whole team up and build one from scratch. Liquid really dropped the ball when hiko and skadoodle were available.
Hiko didn't want to join Liquid because he dislikes the organization for whatever reason. Hiko, Skadoodle, adreN nitr0 and FugLy was actually a thing during the shuffle until Ska went to C9. If Hiko actually wanted to join Liquid the team woulda happened.
But yeah, I have my reservations about adreN like you guys. His ceiling is not as high as nitr0's/FugLy's/EliGE's but really he's the best and most experienced AWPer available atm and he has shown some crazy clutch potential if nothing else.
But we have a strong core. Just missing an IGL. The question is: who's good and available? In NA the best available is probably hades. If we looked to EU... I don't know who'd be poachable.
Edit: And while we've been discussing this Liquid is back 10-13. :o
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On May 07 2015 10:19 johnbongham wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 10:16 pyro19 wrote:On May 07 2015 10:14 johnbongham wrote:On May 07 2015 10:11 Souma wrote:On May 07 2015 10:10 johnbongham wrote:On May 07 2015 10:04 Souma wrote:On May 07 2015 10:00 pyro19 wrote:On May 07 2015 09:54 Souma wrote:On May 07 2015 09:45 pyro19 wrote:
Elige seems so far off from the player he was on Elevate. Liquid really need a shotcaller and fast. Well that's why adreN's IGLing although he hasn't even had a week yet to acclimate. At this point you either hope adreN adapts and improves or bring on someone else to IGL, but there aren't many good IGLs in NA. Only hades would be poachable probably. Adren has been IGL'ing before FaceIT LAN (Dustmouret confirmed in his video.). They really need a better IGL or a good coach (warden is a shit player/coach) adren confirmed himself at Faceit that he only became IGL one day before the LAN. The only other time adren was IGL it was a short stint in the beginning and then he decided to focus on his AWPing. On May 07 2015 10:02 ptbl wrote:
Maybe adren is the problem? He seems to have declined in skill and his in game shotcalling has been mediocre. adreN can generally frag and clutch well enough when he's not calling. Really all they need is a good IGL and this team will go places. This team is not going anywhere. They simply aren't fraggers except for nitr0. No IGL alive is going to fix a team that can't kill anyone. For real, nitr0 is the only player somewhat worth keeping, maybe elige on a good day. There is a reason adren retired from csgo in the first year after its release, and bringing him back was a mistake from the getgo. Don't even get me started on daps. This team is doing more harm to the liquid brand than good. Uhm, have you been watching Liquid? Their best player has been FugLy in most games, nitr0 in others. EliGE not really ever but they're using him wrong (that's an IGL thing). Honestly, no I don't watch them anymore, I learned my lesson since when I had my hopes up int he beginning. I like adren, he is a good guy, he just isnt fit for the level of play that is needed for a top 10 team. And now I see they kicked daps. Thank god. Thats a start I guess, but best bet is to blow the whole team up and build one from scratch. Liquid really dropped the ball when hiko and skadoodle were available. Hiko and Skadoodle didn't wanna join Liquid? Wtf do you want them to do. I hate to post this here but , How Much? I don't play csgo anymore nor have I ever bet a single skin so you can save it. They didn't want to join because they didnt want to play with this team as it stands now. Hiko knows better than anyone that adren has no place on this roster. He has been crushing adren since the game was released.Please show me a single csgo roster under contract for a major esports org with results as dismal as liquid's that hasn't already been blown up. There is none. Its not hate its truth.
Hiko wanted Adren + Fugly + nitro for his team but Hiko knows Adren has no place on this roster? Do you even think before you type ?
You are a hate poster , posting just for the sake of bashing the team instead of any constructive criticism. Also just so you don't spew this shit somewhere else , Hiko didn't join Liquid because he had a problem with the Org , not the players.Even then , liquid made an offer for Skadoodle but he chose C9.
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Anyways , I hope Liquid wins against LG tonight but it seems highly unlikely considering their T sides. Everyone on that team knows what they have to fix but somehow they do the same mistake again and again. Still very interested to see what A2Z brings to the team.
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Want to see my boy m0e tear it up tonight but can't watch the VODS yet. Whyy CEVO whyy MLG!
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what is with these nicknames lol
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Liquid just demolished Luminousity on Cache 16-8 and are 10-5 up on 2nd map Dust 2 going into their CT side.
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Liquid just demolished Luminousity on Cache 16-8 and are 10-5 up on 2nd map Dust 2 going into their CT side.
flowsick helped the team that much?
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Liquid wins gun round of 2nd half, nice!
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Either valve just shadow buffed the Deagle or these LG players are really fucking good with the Deagle.
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