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Stolat
Profile Joined June 2010
Poland241 Posts
December 30 2011 00:42 GMT
#201
nice AAR! :> keep up the good work ppl :D

Also i like the idea of finishing game in 1821. Also i think our ultimate goal should be Creating Germany
UF fight!
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-30 00:53:01
December 30 2011 00:52 GMT
#202
i cant be bothered to scroll back through the thread but based on the current world image, burgundy stomped france and because of the different missions never attacked brittany. then burgundy formed france so does that mean france now has the hre low lands owned but cored and will soon be killing vassalising brittany?

can we form germany without the parts france owns?
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11797 Posts
December 30 2011 00:54 GMT
#203
Yes. To form Germany, you mostly need stuff in eastern germany, like Saxony or Magdeburg.
YoureFired
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States822 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 20:55:46
December 31 2011 10:36 GMT
#204
Bishop Gottfried awoke from his long slumber and shook in the night. He had had a nightmare; he was surrounded on all sides by three beasts, each one more terrible than the next. They had hounded him through the halls of Hell, each second getting closer and closer and constricting the very breath he held in his lungs. He even foresaw the larger one turning on the other, consuming it whole and assimilating its flesh into its own body. To wake himself up, he ordered another round of cannons, the “singing of angels” as he called it.

He assessed the situation that his little Bishopric was in. It was dire indeed; the Duke of Burgundy, the Holy Roman Emperor, had recently taken the crown of France and claimed its former lands as his own. More than 200,000 French and Burgundian troops sat on the Rheinland, threatening the integrity of Alsace and her German vassals. To the west lay Austria, another territorial behemoth with a large army and strong allies. Finally, Bohemia ringed Alsace towards the north, with its Crimean holdings already considered integral parts of her empire and providing a full supply of reinforcements. He decided that he would have to neutralize one of these powers in order to secure his little diocese’s position in Germany.

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The Bishop looked over his ledgers and noticed that nearly 80% of Alsace’s income was generated by trade in foreign centers – and yet they had none in the richest North German trade center, Lubeck! He immediately set one of his advisors on gaining and maintaining trade in the Hanseatic League’s hub.

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However, Gottfried’s success in Lubeck was not enough. His empire and vassals were being torn apart by all of the different traders – Venezia, Liguria, Lubeck and even Antwerpen took chunks of Alsatian trade away from its borders. He decided that, due to Alsace’s overflowing coffers, setting up a center of trade right in Central Europe would result in plentiful income. After creating a trading center in Baden, Alsace had a nice little section of Southern Germany trading through its roads and customs houses.

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With the economic side of things in order and with gold streaming in from his new conquests, Gottfried opened a map of Europe and surveyed the land for possible expansions of his realm. To the far north, in lands bordering his vassals, he spied a Reformed country – the Heretic had taken Thuringia! Bohemia was caught in a war with Austria and was in the process of being occupied, and the mere 1000 Thuringian soldiers would pose no threat to Alsace’s German allies. War is declared! For God and Country!

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Thuringia is occupied quickly.

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The Swiss, who foolishly fought alongside the Bohemians, are quickly defeated and occupied as well.

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Alsatian and German troops rush into the Swiss lowlands and easily defeat their isolated army. Alsatian diplomats secure a white peace with our trading allies, the Genoese, and force favorable terms upon the conquered Swiss.

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In the final months of the war, Anhalt declares war on Alsace and is promptly occupied by the Magdeburgian armies arrayed around it. Gottfried barely receives word of their declaration of war before he discovers they have been defeated, and promptly forces them to convert back to the true faith and vassalizes them to protect their souls from further heresy.

As Alsatian and German troops fight occupy the Heretics in Thuringia, Gottfried’s government workers finally bear some fruit from their research into army efficiency and effectiveness; they establish a codified set of Military Drills for all of our troops to follow while training and fighting. Such routine will surely increase morale when our troops come under fire.

We also begin the construction of a march in Elsass, in order to safeguard our capital from French aggression and also to increase our manpower exponentially.

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As Gottfried succeeds against the Bohemian tyrant and basks in victory, terrible news is brought to his eyes; the Bohemians are now ruled by an Austrian king! His dream had become reality, and now two of his fiercest rivals are ruled as one. God save Alsace.

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Alsace needs to weaken the Bohemian-Austrian bear on its borders, but also cannot fight a protracted war in case Austria intervenes. Gottfried demands the reformation of a Transylvanian nation to hopefully form a buffer zone between Bohemia’s German and Crimean holdings. God knows it won’t hold, but it will at least buy Alsace precious time.

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The continent is in a tenuous peace. Austria grows stronger to the east and France remains in the west, two monsters come to swallow Alsace whole.
Suddenly, the populace of Breisgau becomes discontent with the teachings of the Catholic Church and suddenly converts to Protestantism. Fools! Unfortunately, Gottfried is inexplicably unable to put the populace to the sword for their heresy and instead has to content himself with a very ineffectual mission to reconvert the populace.

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The heresy plagues him – how could his loyal subjects, who had fought countless wars to bring heretics to the true faith, suddenly convert? He is haunted by these thoughts day and night until his government advisors become unwilling to see him for fear of being followed by his mad eyes.
One morning in October of the year of our lord 1555, Gottfried, conqueror of Germany, champion of Catholicism, leader of the great nation of Alsace, passes away.
A new man helms the great nation, and despite lacking any diplomatic tact or administrative expertise, is an excellent general.
Heinrich V, the warrior-bishop, now leads the diocese of Alsace.

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It appears that other nations have taken notice of Alsace’s change of hats. Austria now declares its support for the bishopric’s territorial integrity and pledges to fight a war against any nation who attempts to defeat Heinrich. While this support makes him slightly uncomfortable, it is a welcome barrier against French expansionism.

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Heinrich may not be the most charming person, or the most intelligent, but he knows where his strengths are: fighting wars. He pulls out Gottfried’s old map of Europe and spots two pockets of Protestantism in the middle of Europe. They need to be brought back to the true faith. Gottfried would have desired it.

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Thuringia and Hannover are quickly defeated by the combined might of Alsace and her vassals, but one unlikely enemy rises to support the heretic states; the Hanseatic League, who has five provinces in Europe and nearly ten overseas colonies, declares war against Alsace and its vassals.
This support comes too late, however, to stop Heinrich’s armies from capturing Hannover and Thuringia, forcing them to accept the Pope as the true diplomat to God and vassalizing them to prevent further digressions from the faith.

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Only the Hanseatic League remains.
Alsatian soldiers under the command of prodigy General Erasmus Bork annihilate a Hanseatic army and set about occupying Lubeck.

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The Hansa’s ally, Holstein, is defeated by German troops and swiftly besieged as well.

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Heinrich, for all his diplomatic awkwardness, sits in a very tenable position against the Hanseatic League. He demands that they release Holstein from vassalage and recreate the nations of Luneburg and Hamburg, both of which had been previously annexed, along with a sizable amount of bullion.

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However, Heinrich is not finished fighting wars for Catholicism. Brandenburg, one of the former North German powerhouses, has been excommunicated by the Pope and stands much weaker than its former glory as the Holy Roman Emperor. Unable to resist the land, Alsatian diplomats deliver declarations of war to the Brandenburgian prince.
Alsatian soldiers rush across Germany and quickly force Brandenburg to capitulate.

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After occupying Brandenburg, Heinrich is faced with a difficult choice; Alsace needs to increase its territories in order to gain more manpower, as her reserve of a mere 25,000 men has proven inadequate even in these small border conflicts against small North German states. Armies went without reinforcements due to lack of warm bodies in uniform.
He decides to force Brandenburg to cede Potsdam, its richest province. This also leaves the hope of vassalizing the formerly great Princedom in order to secure Alsace’s position against Bohemia.

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Heinrich looks over his troops marching in the streets of Baden. He looks over them and wonders what the streets will be covered with in the future – will they be covered in the rich gold of a trading empire, and walked upon by proud German soldiers united under a common banner, or will they be drenched in blood – the blood of Alsace. He shudders and steps back inside.


The current state of Alsace: We have nearly all of the German minors vassalized, and are in a good position to take chunks out of France with Austrian support in the case of French aggression. And now we are no longer a donut, we are a beautiful blob with a giant Alsace across!

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ted cruz is the zodiac killer
YoureFired
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States822 Posts
December 31 2011 10:37 GMT
#205
alright imgs are being complete shit right now and none of my upload websites are working for the stupid savegame :l ill do it tomorrow... sorry for the delay way too much stuff right now.
ted cruz is the zodiac killer
3Form
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom389 Posts
December 31 2011 11:53 GMT
#206
Nice read even without the pictures! Sounds like great progress too, and I never thought to set up a CoT heheheh
YoureFired
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States822 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 21:02:18
January 01 2012 20:56 GMT
#207
Everything done and updated.

Save game here: [url blocked]
ted cruz is the zodiac killer
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
January 01 2012 20:59 GMT
#208
Oh my lord.

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nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
January 01 2012 21:26 GMT
#209
You are supposed to explicitly state that you pm'd the next guy in line! great AAR i hope we don't get sandwiched!
Stolat
Profile Joined June 2010
Poland241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 23:53:28
January 01 2012 23:53 GMT
#210
wow this game is getting more and more exciting :D We are getting fat, but our biggest enemies are even more fat already :D.

AARs are great and fun to read! Keep up the good work :>
UF fight!
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11797 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 00:28:46
January 02 2012 00:13 GMT
#211
Next in Line and PM'd is DeepBlu2, please claim your spot

In my opinion, we could use a bit more land of our own. For example, one could annex Croatia, or something like that. Since we got lots of money, and probably a large surplus of magistrates, even a few not really good provinces could become very good very fast through buildings. Or maybe grab 1-2 provinces from the swiss the next time they want to annoy us. Vassals are a very nice thing to have, but not really that useful in a headon fight. Or, of course, we could go crusading. Everyone loves a good crusade.

Another thing, maybe we shouldn't form Germany, but unite the HRE instead. Since we have already vassalised most of the HRE, that should be possible once we can switch out of a theocracy. But we need to be in a stronger position to do so anyways, since i doubt that France, Austria or Bohemia would easily accept that.
Holykitty
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands246 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 00:39:12
January 02 2012 00:38 GMT
#212
what purpose does having more land of your own actually achieve?

there is no advantage without it being cored land, and the 50 year delay hurts your expansion
Where there's smoke, there's me
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
January 02 2012 00:46 GMT
#213
On January 02 2012 09:38 Holykitty wrote:
what purpose does having more land of your own actually achieve?

there is no advantage without it being cored land, and the 50 year delay hurts your expansion


Higher Manpower, High Forcelimits, more buildings, more catholic provinces = more influence with Papacy which = more chance of becoming papal controller which = lots of bonus', Better trading depending on the province, more security from invasion, etc.
YoureFired
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States822 Posts
January 02 2012 01:31 GMT
#214
On January 02 2012 09:46 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 09:38 Holykitty wrote:
what purpose does having more land of your own actually achieve?

there is no advantage without it being cored land, and the 50 year delay hurts your expansion


Higher Manpower, High Forcelimits, more buildings, more catholic provinces = more influence with Papacy which = more chance of becoming papal controller which = lots of bonus', Better trading depending on the province, more security from invasion, etc.

and even before the 50 years are up, you get a decent amount of manpower from any province. From my experience, if they're in the same culture group as you, it's still around half what you get normally.

I fought a test war against France (I was allied to Aragon, who called me into a war) and our armies were doing perfectly fine at killing French stacks one by one until our manpower dried up and we suddenly were unable to reinforce. Needless to say I reloaded and noted this.
ted cruz is the zodiac killer
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11797 Posts
January 02 2012 02:09 GMT
#215
Ok, DeepBlu2 PM'd me that he can't play because of computer problems, so:

Next in line is BillyHardcore, please claim your spot.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
January 02 2012 09:09 GMT
#216
On January 02 2012 10:31 YoureFired wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 09:46 Fruscainte wrote:
On January 02 2012 09:38 Holykitty wrote:
what purpose does having more land of your own actually achieve?

there is no advantage without it being cored land, and the 50 year delay hurts your expansion


Higher Manpower, High Forcelimits, more buildings, more catholic provinces = more influence with Papacy which = more chance of becoming papal controller which = lots of bonus', Better trading depending on the province, more security from invasion, etc.

and even before the 50 years are up, you get a decent amount of manpower from any province. From my experience, if they're in the same culture group as you, it's still around half what you get normally.

I fought a test war against France (I was allied to Aragon, who called me into a war) and our armies were doing perfectly fine at killing French stacks one by one until our manpower dried up and we suddenly were unable to reinforce. Needless to say I reloaded and noted this.

Don't do that! breaks immersion imo^^
BillyHardcore
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark104 Posts
January 02 2012 11:22 GMT
#217
OKay, I'll claim this spot here.
One does not simply walk into maraudor
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
January 02 2012 18:01 GMT
#218
On January 02 2012 09:46 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 09:38 Holykitty wrote:
what purpose does having more land of your own actually achieve?

there is no advantage without it being cored land, and the 50 year delay hurts your expansion


Higher Manpower, High Forcelimits, more buildings, more catholic provinces = more influence with Papacy which = more chance of becoming papal controller which = lots of bonus', Better trading depending on the province, more security from invasion, etc.


less vassels, less tech, less diplo rating, i told u to build a cot 100 years ago ;p
Sgtmt
Profile Joined May 2011
United States72 Posts
January 05 2012 00:00 GMT
#219
I wish my Europe could look that clean.
Bairemuth
Profile Joined June 2010
United States404 Posts
January 05 2012 22:52 GMT
#220
What's goin on here? It's been a few days it seems =/
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