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keit
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1584 Posts
May 02 2014 08:50 GMT
#8021
zzz all the idle servers are full.

i want some huntsman crates
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Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 09:23:10
May 02 2014 09:21 GMT
#8022
What does everyone buy during pistol rounds? I tend to go usp-s / kevlar on CT and dual-berettas on T. I have moderate success doing that, considering CT i'll wait out a corner and go for headshots while on T i'll rush a short route.

Am i being dumb? D: i see some people not even buy / get p250 which is a lot cheaper. Although i find if pistol round is lost i'll just full-eco 2 rounds and go p90 / vest+helmet round 4 because its cheaper. I also buy that if pistol round is won and use it until i die then go ak/m4

But by god the USP-S is so much better then T's glock. I cant frag for shit with that thing.
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
May 02 2014 09:25 GMT
#8023
I think just getting armour is pretty standard. Nades can be good but that's situational. I usually get a five-seven or p250 second round if I lost the first.
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SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
May 02 2014 09:26 GMT
#8024
On May 02 2014 18:21 Omnishroud wrote:
What does everyone buy during pistol rounds? I tend to go usp-s / kevlar on CT and dual-berettas on T. I have moderate success doing that, considering CT i'll wait out a corner and go for headshots while on T i'll rush a short route.

Am i being dumb? D: i see some people not even buy / get p250 which is a lot cheaper. Although i find if pistol round is lost i'll just full-eco 2 rounds and go p90 / vest+helmet round 4 because its cheaper. I also buy that if pistol round is won and use it until i die then go ak/m4

But by god the USP-S is so much better then T's glock. I cant frag for shit with that thing.


go with what gun you are best with the better you are with starting pistols the better it will be for you. I personally rock the p250 on both ct and T whenever it's a save round I am very comfortable with that pistol.
I am Godzilla You are Japan
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
May 02 2014 09:28 GMT
#8025
I'm actually really comfortable with the Glock. Although my best pistol for headshots is my USP-S. Overall I'm more consistent and win more pistol rounds on T with Glock though.
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Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
May 02 2014 09:53 GMT
#8026
Think i'll probably stick to what im doing then. Seems to be working.
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
seodoth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands319 Posts
May 02 2014 13:05 GMT
#8027
On May 02 2014 18:25 TheEmulator wrote:
I think just getting armour is pretty standard. Nades can be good but that's situational. I usually get a five-seven or p250 second round if I lost the first.

Im sorry but fuck armour. I get headshotted anyway
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 14:05:11
May 02 2014 13:55 GMT
#8028
I find you dont mkae the best use out of nades unless youre a stack group with a strat in mind for the first round.

Sometimes I like going Smoke first lol
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
May 02 2014 14:00 GMT
#8029
Armor is pretty OP CT-side, T's basically just bumrush a site during pistol, you're alot more likely to get dinked with people rushing a site then headshot.

Nades are awesome torte, that statement is pretty silly and you need to get some practice in and read / watch some guides about nading. Like i cant even explain how useful nades are at all times.
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
Tarias
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands480 Posts
May 02 2014 14:06 GMT
#8030
For me it really depends on the map and position I'm playing as well. For example when I play Dust II as CT, I'll always buy smoke if I'm playing B, because I like smoking the tunnels and doing some spam to prevent rushes. However when I play A I'd never buy a smoke. Similarly on Mirage I like buying smoke for rushing A, 2 flashes for rushing mid or some armor if I'm rushing B. It also depends on the strategy your team wants to execute etc. I don't think you can really generalize first round buys unless you just always ignore your team and do the same thing no matter what the map or other people do.
Go big, or go home!
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
May 02 2014 14:17 GMT
#8031
Omnishroud, how can you say his statement is silly when you don't even buy nades for the pistol round?

I prefer to get armour for T and a pair of flashes for CT. One for initial bombsite defend and another for rushing bombsite. I used to buy HE and get the occasional 200+ damage, but flash is just better to allow more time to stall and kill. Though I buy armour, everybody gets headshotted an awful lot as T, so I really wonder if it is worth it.
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 14:29:18
May 02 2014 14:26 GMT
#8032
I dont buy nades on a pistol round. I still fully understand their importance and use (even if i cant use them correctly myself in situations) I dont see how me not buying nades on a pistol contradicts what i said, he think's they aren't useful, nades are ALWAYS useful, just earlier i got fooled by a decoy on a pistol round, cost me the round and a 4th kill :<.
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 02 2014 14:33 GMT
#8033
My statement was to outline that I prefer buying armour over 'nades because I don't think you can make full use of them unless you're in a stacked group.

I could just be naive in that regard.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19212 Posts
May 02 2014 14:38 GMT
#8034
I'm going to need to put one or seven of these on all of my guns
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Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
May 02 2014 14:46 GMT
#8035
On May 02 2014 23:38 tofucake wrote:
I'm going to need to put one or seven of these on all of my guns
[image loading]


hello kitty 7x doge p90 all day every day
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Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 15:12:54
May 02 2014 15:09 GMT
#8036
On May 02 2014 18:21 Omnishroud wrote:
What does everyone buy during pistol rounds? I tend to go usp-s / kevlar on CT and dual-berettas on T. I have moderate success doing that, considering CT i'll wait out a corner and go for headshots while on T i'll rush a short route.

Am i being dumb? D: i see some people not even buy / get p250 which is a lot cheaper. Although i find if pistol round is lost i'll just full-eco 2 rounds and go p90 / vest+helmet round 4 because its cheaper. I also buy that if pistol round is won and use it until i die then go ak/m4

But by god the USP-S is so much better then T's glock. I cant frag for shit with that thing.


I buy kevlar as T, you'll end up rushing most probably so you want to lower the HE damage, and since you have a full 20 bullets you can pretty much jump angles (first guy I mean) to avoid the headshot and spam.
So annoying to take a hs and die at once though xD

CT side I take kevlar too to dampen glock damage, but if you're defending a closed spot (B on D2 etc), a HE grenade can hurt them so much and allow your mates to finish easy kills.



Depending on your level, you should never, ever have a P90 4th round. Why not against eco because they are somewhat accurate and have a lot of bullets (which is why we usually buy PP-Bison with its 60+ bullets and only costs 1400), but once the game is on at the 4th round, any decent player with an ak or m4 will just kill you before you can do anything. At DMG and higher, you get half a second max, maybe one, to kill someone whatever the distance before dying. p90 is so-so against good players. You'll improve more if you learn another weapon (rifles).
It is good to run around and spam at close/mid-distance. Only true while people miss moving targets. Won't happen at those levels.
NoiR
Omnishroud
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
1073 Posts
May 02 2014 15:32 GMT
#8037
On May 02 2014 23:33 Torte de Lini wrote:
My statement was to outline that I prefer buying armour over 'nades because I don't think you can make full use of them unless you're in a stacked group.

I could just be naive in that regard.


I was mistaken then, but its more preference then being able to make use of them (if you know how, which some dont, like me ^^) because they are deadly effective on most maps / routes if used correctly, not even through experience more every man and his dog shouting this over and over at me :<. Just entry / defensive nades can ruin someones day. Look anywhere and you'll be told it

p90 4th round, eh, its usually CT side when ive gone 0-3 and need to save more, i'll only buy it if im lacking funds. You're probably right about the bizon thing though, i should probably buy that more. Always bizon over p90 vs eco? Ive been told to never buy ak/m4 after winning pistol. Also i buy p90 over famas/galil because ive had 0 practice with them and suck, which contributes greatly to how often i buy it need to get in them DM servs.

You're right though, im probably getting away with this because im playing at shit-tier level (Nova 2)
Omni = Capped (RIP TL Account) - LoL EUW: Capped92 - EU Bnet: Capped#1137 - Steam: Capped92
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 16:07:47
May 02 2014 16:04 GMT
#8038
On May 03 2014 00:32 Omnishroud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2014 23:33 Torte de Lini wrote:
My statement was to outline that I prefer buying armour over 'nades because I don't think you can make full use of them unless you're in a stacked group.

I could just be naive in that regard.


I was mistaken then, but its more preference then being able to make use of them (if you know how, which some dont, like me ^^) because they are deadly effective on most maps / routes if used correctly, not even through experience more every man and his dog shouting this over and over at me :<. Just entry / defensive nades can ruin someones day. Look anywhere and you'll be told it

p90 4th round, eh, its usually CT side when ive gone 0-3 and need to save more, i'll only buy it if im lacking funds. You're probably right about the bizon thing though, i should probably buy that more. Always bizon over p90 vs eco? Ive been told to never buy ak/m4 after winning pistol. Also i buy p90 over famas/galil because ive had 0 practice with them and suck, which contributes greatly to how often i buy it need to get in them DM servs.

You're right though, im probably getting away with this because im playing at shit-tier level (Nova 2)


If you need to save money again 4th round, there's a problem. m4 and P90 only have a 800$ difference :-/ To have more money by the 4th round, you need to either stay alive rounds 2/3, or buy cheaper weapons.

If you buy P90/Kevlar 2nd round, and you happen to die, you'll have no money, cause it's really expensive. If you buy it again 3rd round, you're broke.
What I usually do is (not saying it's right) : Bizon/Kevlar 2nd round, keep that, and if I die, either just my gun and a kevlar if I want to snipe next, or Bizon/kev again.
Sometimes an early M4 depending on the maps and if we believe the enemy bought 3rd round, defending from the furthest possible. Goal is to stay alive this time and/or not be at a disadvantage against galils and aks.
NoiR
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19212 Posts
May 02 2014 16:31 GMT
#8039
bizon is garbage against armor, only worth buying 2nd round if you won first and don't expect p250+armor
proper save gun is galil or famas, not p90

Job of the first T on first round is to lead the charge, soak up as much damage as possible, call where CTs are, and die. Not necessarily in that order. If a nade or 3 are thrown, first guy should body block them to save his team as much as possible.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
May 02 2014 16:58 GMT
#8040
Aye, First round T side I always buy Kevlar. Team should be rushing in together, if not you most likely lose anyway regardless of what you bought.

CT well I always buy HE+Flash and depending on map Smoke as well for all 3, like Nuke for example which can snowball insanely after a 1st round win. Good morale, etc.
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