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Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
August 19 2014 04:15 GMT
#16121
I'll be playing in Beyond, seems super sick! Just wondering - could anyone point me in the direction of a good beginner arc build for hardcore? I'm fairly new to the game, yet I'd like to experience hardcore while jumping on the arc hypetrain. However, it seems like I could get punished fairly hard for making my own build, and I'd rather not go through the process of remaking characters too often :/
Writermaru pls
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 19 2014 04:19 GMT
#16122
I assume I have to enter all these builds into the offline calculator to actually see them right now yeah?
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Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 04:26:47
August 19 2014 04:24 GMT
#16123
On August 19 2014 13:02 rza wrote:
pure phys crit dagger st
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYAsNii2cgU9W9qjBa_Ax4PqyaVH0FtbFM1YeIGI7VINj2btVVL8-rjhJ2q7LDDOiLqKgsOSMCcYqxsjIwLykohA3BSY0MRlqc09vy5fG-eUUxLxJAbf8ZHBoMJnKSsR2Xxd_1wVqKj2HaHE31b0Anb1JoTwfMPxLk-VvV3BypNLVWVIDt8rGbbbj8nFz7p_i0fuMos4ZfQSsgUjgV9TLN9446KbqrAdlAwtfKpbjWSKjj-j9i9TeP-CqZXtz4xnsauPC3E9ift_EusqmwWWfOHGcAakFWnhBo47DhX4ilPMomFfQSzFE3wH6IAtPk=

also have ele version when a auramancer is in group, to acheive insane crit dips, carry party, 3min map clear speed, u know


looks like insane dps but will it have the defense to survive reflect?



On August 19 2014 13:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
I assume I have to enter all these builds into the offline calculator to actually see them right now yeah?


yes
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
August 19 2014 04:38 GMT
#16124
I'll probably hop on to grind Beyond if I didn't get kicked from the guild yet, hah. Not sure what to play yet, is summoning to farm items still relatively efficient?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 19 2014 04:39 GMT
#16125
From what I have looked at, it looks like summoners may be stronger than ever, particularly summon raging spirits.
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
August 19 2014 04:55 GMT
#16126
I would expect SRS to be a top tier starter build. I'm waiting to see if flame totem got nerfed at all before I decide what to do, but the new tree looks pretty efficient for a dual curse flame totem culler
rSLagLovah on NA xSixLagLovah on Kr
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
August 19 2014 05:11 GMT
#16127
On August 19 2014 13:55 LagLovah wrote:
I would expect SRS to be a top tier starter build. I'm waiting to see if flame totem got nerfed at all before I decide what to do, but the new tree looks pretty efficient for a dual curse flame totem culler


pls no more nerf to totems, they are weak enough as it is.

On August 19 2014 13:15 Soularion wrote:
I'll be playing in Beyond, seems super sick! Just wondering - could anyone point me in the direction of a good beginner arc build for hardcore? I'm fairly new to the game, yet I'd like to experience hardcore while jumping on the arc hypetrain. However, it seems like I could get punished fairly hard for making my own build, and I'd rather not go through the process of remaking characters too often :/


for hc check etup's build/gear http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/924551/page/1
generally i would say arc is not worth it for hc...
the dmg is nerfed for 1.2 and you require a high level empower for arc with/or RF to be actually strong since arc scaling is only great at >lvl 20
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3475 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 05:23:26
August 19 2014 05:22 GMT
#16128
My go to builds are ( also will be in that order )
1) Blood Magic dual flame totem, with a bit of MF
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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEAxthYYz38jM_2SF8_458nL-8OvJ-krPIvqBhUSWoe0iGezVcNpzDZYRRxFCAZLvjr378DxlBHJ-1KxAYOGJH8S8T2rKpY5WP9bBY8LVnz9q4J9ocZxq4qE8AaHKcQzLc-WiuQVWaeDF8rtv4KLKenhPrSU6WMRvJF2L2j8ho4Nun4kzrhNZLsOCSq42qmV7Xy_o9X4hZvTeNuqjKJSsgEsz8nFE3wHwJxKk1khKIAFSAGoCLi-b1H4tCBpDk=

2) CI physical wander
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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMA34rpAkuuGyXZW20ZEVA1uacrHU8tH8UoTLP2W1AwWbzbXhEPTC2smBSw99d0VYIemmGESJuhXyqIQvTpwnNca-L3j0bbAsHFT69zcMNtAW8dFPMJ-u8sv3_G7BhnvZ-Ii3r60lFs_GSGrhGWcLv252aeFy_5yEqaFdcOSNkTznAWQHFNhtGiBFZjY0Nd8i9vCaCFfZrPJLDy4bb3cNVs50NjgKRHBisKidM_c7cx2-f2_BEvcFJY9V9qpzQqC53E8-q1SAYjH0EDHha_

3) CI cap crit Cold witch with Berek's Grip, main 5/6L is Ice spear with Ele proliferation. 4L with FP for close and personal boss.
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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMA37DfioIQ6QIHpUuuAuMbJUmy2VssnG0ZBUIRUEGWNbmus9D1pytMs1Aw214RD0wtrJgUsBdU99d0VYIenwGOPIRIm6FfKohC0eRWSlxr4vePRsHFjYKeocNtAW8dFCy_7BhT1CKBi3r60oauj_o3gXC7Zp4V19DQ6_Xk69kTFkBxTVZjRwZkneNWL2-FfZrP8uHb5_IdKU9DY2NDX2rkIoKbtzEOSI5kWPVd8vemncS293DVQsO2-isKidPfhBEvcFIC_ow2B2PLvQ==

The ice spear setup would preferably in a 6L Pledge of Hands setup for pcoc with a nice chest. If not then a good shield with 5L Voll is fine until then.
4) Low life summoner with Lorica, a good ES shield and Midnight Bargain
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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMA34rpAkuuGyXZW20ZEVB9GDW57Ipr26crTLMEBx8CNsWLegFv4veESPfXXGvMvJuhw21EBKrEj0Z4LxCXhWAdFKcIOVJNufrS2Qu4k52uvDdmnhcvKpjr7hps5wtYB3FNZOeG0fqAKPqmrN6wms9V1iSwV8mCx4hA875DY4CkDXzT-wx9kDO3Meq6qH0TbBB_WPW0DFqRBknGnp3EkydGcWqsHNyDCeGIf8Zvnh2qwcXKSv5J7BjDOnC7m7XZExmKL2_7CfbaGo8=


So many builds, so little time ;_;
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
August 19 2014 05:29 GMT
#16129
On August 19 2014 14:22 vndestiny wrote:
Berek's Grip


pretty shite that item will only appear in another month in a new league.
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 07:07:55
August 19 2014 07:06 GMT
#16130
On August 19 2014 14:11 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 13:55 LagLovah wrote:
I would expect SRS to be a top tier starter build. I'm waiting to see if flame totem got nerfed at all before I decide what to do, but the new tree looks pretty efficient for a dual curse flame totem culler


pls no more nerf to totems, they are weak enough as it is.

Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 13:15 Soularion wrote:
I'll be playing in Beyond, seems super sick! Just wondering - could anyone point me in the direction of a good beginner arc build for hardcore? I'm fairly new to the game, yet I'd like to experience hardcore while jumping on the arc hypetrain. However, it seems like I could get punished fairly hard for making my own build, and I'd rather not go through the process of remaking characters too often :/


for hc check etup's build/gear http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/924551/page/1
generally i would say arc is not worth it for hc...
the dmg is nerfed for 1.2 and you require a high level empower for arc with/or RF to be actually strong since arc scaling is only great at >lvl 20



Hmm. Fair enough. Do you have any recommendations for a decently strong, cheap, newbie-friendly build thats updated for 1.2, then? I was hoping for a spellcaster, but it seems like most of the more fun builds are pretty expensive :/
Writermaru pls
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
August 19 2014 07:43 GMT
#16131
So I want to play with the new leagues again (playing Rampage), I want to go life based or life/es hybrid phys wander (shadow or witch), but since I didn't play for so long I would need some help on the tree.

Can someone give me a quick overview of whats important to get and improve the build? (I think right now its way too much dmg and not enough life/defenses?)


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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYAsNhFfKLZyBT1b2qMFr8DHiaVH0Fh4gYjVUu1SIw2bWzz6jY9KgvjhJ2q7LBwUg5IwJxirGyMjAtjQxGWpzS0xbl8k5V_xgcerTPBxSepoqOVLhnX-u_B8w_E8NVXh_xkgh6VIDt8SVGArkqaFLBrFy0fuMqiBJphvOrFKEyzwnPAVPZbUDArDQQHc3BqQwj0WbxCS4Pbn4iFxVXG9uffvjpYznAJoGznP3MegUuN_xw=
ZoRoXo
Profile Joined February 2010
Norway268 Posts
August 19 2014 07:57 GMT
#16132
dem patch notes... :o Might have to rethink my build. Such good caster buffs. Reducing reflect damage makes it very tempting as well.
sprættemætute
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
August 19 2014 08:05 GMT
#16133
On August 19 2014 16:06 Soularion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 14:11 Probemicro wrote:
On August 19 2014 13:55 LagLovah wrote:
I would expect SRS to be a top tier starter build. I'm waiting to see if flame totem got nerfed at all before I decide what to do, but the new tree looks pretty efficient for a dual curse flame totem culler


pls no more nerf to totems, they are weak enough as it is.

On August 19 2014 13:15 Soularion wrote:
I'll be playing in Beyond, seems super sick! Just wondering - could anyone point me in the direction of a good beginner arc build for hardcore? I'm fairly new to the game, yet I'd like to experience hardcore while jumping on the arc hypetrain. However, it seems like I could get punished fairly hard for making my own build, and I'd rather not go through the process of remaking characters too often :/


for hc check etup's build/gear http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/924551/page/1
generally i would say arc is not worth it for hc...
the dmg is nerfed for 1.2 and you require a high level empower for arc with/or RF to be actually strong since arc scaling is only great at >lvl 20



Hmm. Fair enough. Do you have any recommendations for a decently strong, cheap, newbie-friendly build thats updated for 1.2, then? I was hoping for a spellcaster, but it seems like most of the more fun builds are pretty expensive :/


just to let u know most of the guides are not fully updated for 1.2 (usually the tree) but the concepts are still valid.

detonate dead should still be powerful for hc in 1.2 http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/799504
use searing bond/flameblast on a +1 fire sceptre to level before transitioning to dd at around lvl50-60.

freezepulse and ice spear has been heavily buffed in 1.2, u can do either ci crit version (stronger but argh reflect) or a duo totem (weaker but no reflect to worry about) version
not much established guides for 1.2 on those yet maybe these help
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/960124
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/995262

the usual suspects like flameblast, firetrap and incinerate are still great spells for HC.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 08:25:47
August 19 2014 08:09 GMT
#16134
On August 19 2014 16:57 ZoRoXo wrote:
dem patch notes... :o Might have to rethink my build. Such good caster buffs. Reducing reflect damage makes it very tempting as well.


"Both physical and elemental damage reflection from monster auras have been reduced from 15% to 14% reflection."

dont think it applies to map mods

btw the patch notes here
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14JM-RjYcgQ9MZeELGlVQ1DVd4owBI41cH7X_XShtvew/preview?sle=true

EDIT: CHICKENS
TIME FOR DUO SHOCKWAVE TOTEM!
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 08:48:47
August 19 2014 08:46 GMT
#16135
What is gonna be the best selfcast build now?
Stopped playing in may or so.
Flamesurge and ball lightning any good?
Stormcall still onehitting yourself?
How is spell echo?


Not considering flameblast, dd, SRS.
bisu
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-19 08:55:16
August 19 2014 08:53 GMT
#16136
On August 19 2014 17:46 ramon wrote:
What is gonna be the best selfcast build now?
Stopped playing in may or so.
Flamesurge and ball lightning any good?
Stormcall still onehitting yourself?
How is spell echo?


Not considering flameblast, dd, SRS.


most likely freezepulse/ice spear considering their insane buffs. i tried it on taiwan 1.2 and they are really good even for levelling.

spark (yes lol) and lightning ball also has nice buffs
Cynry
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
810 Posts
August 19 2014 08:55 GMT
#16137
On August 19 2014 17:46 ramon wrote:
What is gonna be the best selfcast build now?
Stopped playing in may or so.
Flamesurge and ball lightning any good?
Stormcall still onehitting yourself?
How is spell echo?


Not considering flameblast, dd, SRS.

It's hard to say yet, lots of changes to spells' balance.

Arc was the go-to spell lately, now nerfed a bit.
Flame surge does very good damage afaik, the issue was the area of effect which was very small. It has been changed too.
Ball lightning worked, not the best clear speed but some very safe builds with knockback support for exemple. And now damage has been buffed.
Spell echo is now a must have for any spell user I believe...
Dunno about stormcall, haven't seen that used in a while.

Considering the huge buffs to cold spells and their CC mechanic, I can see them becoming the most played.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3475 Posts
August 19 2014 09:05 GMT
#16138
On August 19 2014 14:29 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 14:22 vndestiny wrote:
Berek's Grip


pretty shite that item will only appear in another month in a new league.

No it's not shit :<. And that will be my 3rd char so it probably be 1 month by then alrdy.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
August 19 2014 09:34 GMT
#16139
On August 19 2014 18:05 vndestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 14:29 Probemicro wrote:
On August 19 2014 14:22 vndestiny wrote:
Berek's Grip


pretty shite that item will only appear in another month in a new league.

No it's not shit :<. And that will be my 3rd char so it probably be 1 month by then alrdy.


its not that i find the item shit, its just shit annoying u have to wait a month for it to appear now (compared to last time which was ~2 weeks?)
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3475 Posts
August 19 2014 10:04 GMT
#16140
On August 19 2014 18:34 Probemicro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2014 18:05 vndestiny wrote:
On August 19 2014 14:29 Probemicro wrote:
On August 19 2014 14:22 vndestiny wrote:
Berek's Grip


pretty shite that item will only appear in another month in a new league.

No it's not shit :<. And that will be my 3rd char so it probably be 1 month by then alrdy.


its not that i find the item shit, its just shit annoying u have to wait a month for it to appear now (compared to last time which was ~2 weeks?)

Well it's patiently waiting in my removed-only tab atm so no worry .
Also Patch Note HYPEEE !!!
That shockwave totem buff though. So far I haven't seen anything that is overly nerfed imo too. So gud.
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