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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 06 2013 15:46 GMT
#9201
it is scheduled to come out in november. it's open now so what's holding you back?
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SlixSC
Profile Joined October 2012
666 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 15:56:10
July 06 2013 15:55 GMT
#9202
On July 07 2013 00:44 Qbek wrote:
Rangers are all about getting all the sweet gear. A nice quiver with damage , some iron rings, a good bow and you don't even need that much health. The biggest problem for rangers is actually getting to RoA and getting first quiver I found


Yeah split arrow isn't all that great. But once you get to lvl 4 you are fine. You are right that you need some sort of dmg on your gear or else you are short on mana (I sometimes get hard RNG-owned, getting no quiver or iron rings), but on average I think rangers are far superior to most other classes. (with the exception of marauder and duelist)

I just don't understand all the whining about rangers, when you look at witches they are the ones actually getting fu**ed.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
July 06 2013 19:55 GMT
#9203
On July 07 2013 00:15 SlixSC wrote:
All the people saying Rangers are bad in races don't know what they are talking about. It's obvious that Duelists are the best, but from my own experience (playing Ranger, Duelist and Witch - consistently placing top 100 overall and top 10 for every class) I think Rangers aren't much worse than Duelists. Witches on the other hand are easily the worst race class, by a long shot.

I got to lvl 17 in the last descent race with a ranger and it wasn't very difficult at all, I could have easily placed much higher, but it was my first descent with ranger and I heard everyone say how bad they are so I though I would have to take it slow. Well, I shouldn't have. I could have easily made lvl 19-20 had I not listened to all the people saying rangers are weak.

Once you get rain of arrows and 2 iron rings you pretty much 2 shot any mob pack. stack some life gear and you are good to go.

Just take perfect aim and greater impact key nodes with all the +atk speed and +phys damage nodes nearby and if you have a semi-decent bow you'll be one shoting most mob packs later on, only problem is finding a decent bow, but if you get a decent bow (and with all the alchs that's definitely a possibility) ranger is pretty much beast.

Most of my clanmates I talk to that play ranger just run around with crappy crude bows at lvl 10, they don't pick up long bows and alch them, which is the biggest mistake most ranger players make. often times a white long bow does significantly more damage than a rare crude bow and in some cases even a short bow( depending on rolls).

long bows have insane flat phys damage, sure they attack a little slower, but with all the +% phys damage nodes you get on ranger you can easily have 100dps at lvl 10-12.

edit: just look at top 3 per class, this confirms exactly what I'm saying. Duelists are best (and easiest), rangers are pretty solid and witches just suck.
http://www.pathofexile.com/signature-races/ladder

How do you play the first 2 areas with that? They even scared me on a Duelist so far. ;;
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 21:20:13
July 06 2013 20:59 GMT
#9204
I agree with all the +dmg nodes on Ranger.You need the damage to get charges for your flasks.

With that said, good luck everyone !

Edit: The level of desync in this one is intense... Died twice before level 5, so random :-/
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 21:24:45
July 06 2013 21:23 GMT
#9205
Zzzz.... died on the statues level as Mara lvl 9. No chance, i was scared as hell given i still had small life flasks. I took the risk to get quicksilver flasks and found just medium mana flasks T_T Before that always worked, but this time no flasks were dropping. QQ
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 21:59:17
July 06 2013 21:58 GMT
#9206
Welp I went for a ranger one and died with 3 minutes left at lvl 12 in the frozen abyss.

HOW TO SKIP MORE STATUES/GOATS/COLD BITCHES

The area after the abyss is so awesome but I just can't seem to get there. Tho well, no Longbow and no single useful rare or iron ring the entire run. ;;
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
-Dustin-
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States718 Posts
July 06 2013 22:04 GMT
#9207
I also died on Frozen Abyss but it was my first descent and I started way late and didn't even have a plan :p.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
July 06 2013 22:07 GMT
#9208
That was pretty cool, I had a horrible start and was like level 5 15 minutes in or something like that, but I completely skipped the Abyss, and managed to get to level 17 and 50% when the race finished. Which was 110th. I had three close calls, two in the Statue level, and another in the Abyss. I died with less than 10 seconds left to a bunch of ribbons. Lol. I seem to always have a really bad start but then make up for it if I can make it past the Abyss.
www.twitch.tv/varanice
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 22:17:25
July 06 2013 22:12 GMT
#9209
Got lvl 14 on my 3rd reroll, 20 mins late. Obviously that's the run that found a magic bow, rare coral, rustic sash and a quiver in the 2nd zone, and got +life on all my gear so I could just run through stuff and RoA my face. My dps was bad (33 in Frozen Abyss), but 240hp, some fire resist and +4 hp per kill feels so much safer.

Evo, I think a short bow is better in the frozen abyss anyway. Long bow is too slow, so you can't fire into a room until you're sure there's no suicide mob. With a short bow you can fire and quicksilver + run out if it's nasty. At the end of the zone, you get a quiver, and hopefully you get good damage on it when you alch it, so being stuck with a short bow until level 15 really isn't a problem, considering how easy the next zones are.

Also, the monkey zone is nice, but they give very little XP. The skeleton zone is where it's at. It's dangerous due to elemental damage, but they're slow and give good XP.

Nugi almost got level 23 this run. I might actually take a look at that VoD, should be interesting.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 22:30:27
July 06 2013 22:21 GMT
#9210
The top threefour Rangers are all from the last race now ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Nibbler89
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 22:47:39
July 06 2013 22:46 GMT
#9211
Died at level 71 on onslaught a couple hours after buying a 70+% andavarius(spent around 50 chaos), dried lake map + undead rhoa + desync, learned my lesson though I'm just gonna avoid fucking undead rhoa on maps ~_~ . Did summon skeleton, saw rhoa on edge of screen half second later resurrect button.

Previous char was 69 freeze pulse marauder but he didnt die I just got bored of him and decided to reroll summoner leveling as discharge. First kinda significant hard core death I've had as it was the first time I had a character get that far and was figuring out maps and such. I was amazed at how fast currency/ items were coming in though, on my summoner had around 21% IQ and 200% IR on my spectres. I still have a 80% 3 link searing touch I can use for releveling and it shouldn't be too hard, its kinda nice how other than andvarius summoners are pretty cheap to do and those are just for bonus rarity. It doesn't really pick up until your around act 3 merci though.
SlixSC
Profile Joined October 2012
666 Posts
July 06 2013 22:57 GMT
#9212
On July 07 2013 07:21 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
The top threefour Rangers are all from the last race now ^_^


Like I said Ranger is really strong in Descent. I unfortunately missed the start of the race (played a 55 min TvT LOL) so I watched Bob's stream instead. It's insane how fast the clear speed on RoA is even with the crappy gear he got. Will definitely play ranger again in the next descent race.

As for the person asking how to clear the first two zones with split arrow. The answer is you don't. You pretty much just kite the little bugs with split arrow and try to level that way and only ever attack low HP mobs until you have rain of arrows. Never focus the brood mothers or skelly dinosaurs, just low HP mobs and you can kill the first boss (the snake) with burning arrow pretty easily. I think most ranger skip the second boss, but if you get an iron ring you can kill that guy too.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 23:12:21
July 06 2013 22:58 GMT
#9213
i'm just watching the record run from Helmannn (Duelist). I must say i expected him to skip a lot more. He had monstrous RNG, lol. Karui Ward at lvl 7 or something, before that he found the quantity gloves unique... etc etc :D

What made the difference between my runs and his is mostly that my start isn't as good. But i am also not playing Duelist. Whatever, i think i learned from watching to skip even less. He almost fully cleared the ape + skelly level and also killed lots of the discharger level (where he almost died despite having an lightning res ring lol). I guess that's important cause else you'll end up dying in the flame sentinels level, which has been killing me in my good races.

checking the VOD again he got Sadima's touch from the boss in the first zone, lolol... that item tripples your dps at that time
SlixSC
Profile Joined October 2012
666 Posts
July 06 2013 23:02 GMT
#9214
On July 07 2013 07:58 HolydaKing wrote:
i'm just watching the record run from Helmannn (Duelist). I must say i expected him to skip a lot more. He had monstrous RNG, lol. Karui Ward at lvl 7 or something, before that he found the quantity gloves unique... etc etc :D

What made the difference between my runs and his is mostly that my start isn't as good. But i am also not playing Duelist. Whatever, i think i learned from watching to skip even less. He almost fully cleared the ape + skelly level and also killed lots of the discharger level (where he almost died despite having an lightning res ring lol). I guess that's important cause else you'll end up dying in the flame sentinels level, which has been killing me in my good races.


From what I've seen you actually have to clear most of the higher normal/lowercruel zones, or else you will be too low level if you get into the higher zones. I think cruel to merc is a 3lvl jump, so if you are under lvl 21 you get diminished returns in EXP aswell.
Obsidian
Profile Joined June 2010
United States350 Posts
July 06 2013 23:19 GMT
#9215
At what point do the support gems start becoming a bit more common?

I've been looking for a Increased Projectiles # gem forever, and there are loads more. My witch is starting to have serious problems outputting damage in Act 1 Cruel, and I'm not sure what else I can do to frontload damage but start getting good support gems. Unfortunately, they are rarer than anything else I've seen and my best drop so far, a Fork gem, simply isn't cutting it.
Luke, you are still a wanker!
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
July 06 2013 23:27 GMT
#9216
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Quest_Rewards

LMP is available to the witch only from the Act 2 Normal quest, so if you missed that, you're kinda boned. GMP is a drop only gem.

Consider using trade chat to get gems. Fortunately, gem prices are almost set in stone, so trading for them is relatively painless. Expect to pay 1 alch to 1 chaos for a non-quality gem depending on popularity.
Liquipedia
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
July 07 2013 00:06 GMT
#9217
On July 07 2013 08:19 Obsidian wrote:
At what point do the support gems start becoming a bit more common?

I've been looking for a Increased Projectiles # gem forever, and there are loads more. My witch is starting to have serious problems outputting damage in Act 1 Cruel, and I'm not sure what else I can do to frontload damage but start getting good support gems. Unfortunately, they are rarer than anything else I've seen and my best drop so far, a Fork gem, simply isn't cutting it.

just buy lmp for an alch

for gmp you might need to shell 3 chaos or so

(onslaught pricing)
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
zdfgucker
Profile Joined August 2011
China594 Posts
July 07 2013 00:37 GMT
#9218
I wonder about dps calculation, speaking of caster here. Obviously it includes cast speed and spell damage, but how is crit chance / multiplier included?
fLDm
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-07 00:56:26
July 07 2013 00:42 GMT
#9219
On July 07 2013 09:37 zdfgucker wrote:
I wonder about dps calculation, speaking of caster here. Obviously it includes cast speed and spell damage, but how is crit chance / multiplier included?


Crit chance and multiplier is very simple to include actually. If you have a 20% chance to crit for 200% damage then it's just like having a 20% more damage multiplier (.2*2+(1-.2)*1=1.2) {crit chance*multipler+(1-critchance)*1=average damage gained}. It gets a bit more tricky for physical builds when you have to include double accuracy rolls, but the game is still does the average.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
July 07 2013 01:41 GMT
#9220
It's about time they had a sale on stash tabs, quite nice really! Been trying to 5 link my searing touch on onslaught for discharge build, gone through about 90 fusings so far, bankrupted myself essentially, now I am rebuilding my wealth farming my discharger with 60IIQ 110IIR. Not the best but andvarius are hard to buy these days and I can't use a different amulet so it will have to do.

I paid a fair price for a 5 off perfect searing, 6 socketed in 20 jewelers, turned 200 alts into fusings along with another 120 jewelers, maybe thats more than 90 fusings, but, no luck. I'm hoping to find some sick item I can put up as a prize for linking it for me, but right now that's out of reach.
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