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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
July 05 2013 08:02 GMT
#9181
T_T

First I died to Rhoas then I made it past frozen and once life gain on hit + cleave + double alch'd swords kicked in I made up ground until lvl 14.

Still feel the scariest thing is the goat level, I waste so much time there. ;;
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Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 14:45:12
July 05 2013 14:28 GMT
#9182
Heh, worst run ever... I had 105hp by the Frozen Abyss, and my only rares where the two guaranteed items with the two guaranteed alchs
Edit: And on the remake, I instantly find cleave.............
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 15:19:06
July 05 2013 15:00 GMT
#9183
lvl 18 3/4. then died.

had 4 min more to go. it's just pretty damn hard to survive as a melee in the flame sentinels level. in my case i died from a 2 flame sentinels after getting shocked from those shock nova type enemy.

but i'm doing fairly well. i started 4 min later again cuz i died to void bearers first try, lol.

also i almost died to dischargers again; man they're a pain even with decent lightning res. well, they're avoidable but in that level there's mass of them.

3rd mara, #24, not too shabby. could maybe have reached 19 without dying, not sure if 2nd place was in reach. it's just so so hard to survive; that's also why so many ppl die in the ladder, despite them playing lots of races.

edit: guess someone deleted his char (too) shortly after the race ended, so i'm actually 23th now. but i know from myself that it's not true, i did the same once, deleted shortly after it ended (still got the points though)

edit2: also, this time i realized how important it is to find blue packs.... jesus, i thought i was doing much better than the race where i got lvl 19, as i almost had finished the flame sentinels level. but i didn't find many blue packs whereas i remember lots of them the other day.
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
July 05 2013 15:30 GMT
#9184
Grats, pretty nice run despite the death.

And yeah, the monster density/rarity varies a LOT in this race. Sometimes I find rooms after rooms of clustered packs of mobs/blues, and sometimes there's only 3-4 monkeys per area and it's barely worth stopping for them.

The number of exploding minions in the Abyss is also a huge RNG. Some run there's mostly those little buggers that spit at you, aka free XP, and other times there are entire rooms of sploders + spawners, and if you don't have the DPS, you basically lost one level on your run.

Also, getting flame shamans in the goat level is much harder than their lightning counterpart for a Ranger. Molten Shell is insane, and fireballs actually hurt. Somehow it seems like the monster type is rolled once when you get in in this race, Diablo 1 style.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 15:44:54
July 05 2013 15:43 GMT
#9185
Thanks, the ape area kind of trolled me anyway. I cleared it completely before i found the right way, despite going in the right direction T_T. Also, here i didn't have good luck regarding the blue packs either. Only the ele skeletons level after was pretty good.

I had to relog twice too. Close calls. Got frozen by both Merveil Chosens and the boss in the ele skeletons map (the one with the cold aura). Didn't wanna skip the boss as it was surrounded by ~10 blue skeletons.

Also as mara i kind of like the goat level. But i try to skip the fire casters (if there is more than two) and also the boss sometimes, the detonate dead is pretty deadly (died there once).
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 15:57:20
July 05 2013 15:52 GMT
#9186
I don't think Alira is worth killing for anyone, unless you have good damage and she's in a room alone. The XP of bosses really isn't that good, and lvl 9 loot is still pretty useless. Not like their loot is any better than a random rare anyway.

I died to her on my reroll. I was fighting monsters in a room, and she just ran in and exploded a rare for instant death. I was obviously careless due to it being a reroll, but I'm not sure I could have avoided it without specifically looking at the map and guessing that this is her area and simply running through.

Chatters (freeze skeleton) is always out of sync, I'm not sure it's worth killing either. He'll never swing at you, you'll simply warp back to him eventually :-/
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 15:59:21
July 05 2013 15:57 GMT
#9187
On July 06 2013 00:52 Pwere wrote:
Chatters (freeze skeleton) is always out of sync, I'm not sure it's ever worth killing it. He'll never swing at you, you'll simply warp back to him eventually :-/

Haven't died to him yet, this was the first time i had to log out. But in lower prison in normal races i agree to always skip him.

As long as i can leap in and out (and repeat that until he's alone) i feel like he is no problem, but perhaps i was lucky so far.

Anyway i feel like you can't skip much starting the ape level, i try to kill as much as possible. If you don't you'll be behind a lot in levels and it's getting pretty hard later.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 16:03:05
July 05 2013 16:01 GMT
#9188
On July 06 2013 00:52 Pwere wrote:
I don't think Alira is worth killing for anyone, unless you have good damage and she's in a room alone. The XP of bosses really isn't that good, and lvl 9 loot is still pretty useless. Not like their loot is any better than a random rare anyway.

I died to her on my reroll. I was fighting monsters in a room, and she just ran in and exploded a rare for instant death. I was obviously careless due to it being a reroll, but I'm not sure I could have avoided it without specifically looking at the map and guessing that this is her area and simply running through.

Chatters (freeze skeleton) is always out of sync, I'm not sure it's worth killing either. He'll never swing at you, you'll simply warp back to him eventually :-/

Wait are you saying you're skipping all the low level bosses? I get quite some awesome loot from them, pretty much only skipping the Necro and the big guy in area 2 if he's surrounded by LMP Voidbears.

Random fun thing I discovered by accident: you can run past the end boss in the statue level and then kill her on the small bridge leading to the exit without anyone else there being able to touch you.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 16:27:45
July 05 2013 16:03 GMT
#9189
On July 06 2013 00:57 HolydaKing wrote:
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On July 06 2013 00:52 Pwere wrote:
Chatters (freeze skeleton) is always out of sync, I'm not sure it's ever worth killing it. He'll never swing at you, you'll simply warp back to him eventually :-/

Haven't died to him yet, this was the first time i had to log out. But in lower prison in normal races i agree to always skip him.

As long as i can leap in and out (and repeat that until he's alone) i feel like he is no problem, but perhaps i was lucky so far.

Anyway i feel like you can't skip much starting the ape level, i try to kill as much as possible. If you don't you'll be behind a lot in levels and it's getting pretty hard later.
Your lifepool and resists are obviously much better as a Marauder. I usually have ~250HP and ~-10% cold resist at that point as a Ranger =)
On July 06 2013 01:01 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2013 00:52 Pwere wrote:
I don't think Alira is worth killing for anyone, unless you have good damage and she's in a room alone. The XP of bosses really isn't that good, and lvl 9 loot is still pretty useless. Not like their loot is any better than a random rare anyway.

I died to her on my reroll. I was fighting monsters in a room, and she just ran in and exploded a rare for instant death. I was obviously careless due to it being a reroll, but I'm not sure I could have avoided it without specifically looking at the map and guessing that this is her area and simply running through.

Chatters (freeze skeleton) is always out of sync, I'm not sure it's worth killing either. He'll never swing at you, you'll simply warp back to him eventually :-/

Wait are you saying you're skipping all the low level bosses? I get quite some awesome loot from them, pretty much only skipping the Necro and the big guy in area 2 if he's surrounded by LMP Voidbears.

Random fun thing I discovered by accident: you can run past the end boss in the statue level and then kill her on the small bridge leading to the exit without anyone else there being able to touch you.
I'll kill the first boss if he's alone, but you'll run out of pots before you kill the 2nd boss as a Ranger and he's rarely alone.

I usually kill Sawbones, pretty easy with RoA, but never got anything out of it. Alira is way too dangerous to engage and drops crap. Spinner is pretty easy and can drop a rare long bow so you have to take that chance, Statue takes too long to kill but I usually do it anyway, just in case it drops a lvl 13 quiver I can alch. Merveil is OP, and Chatters desyncs.

What's annoying as a Ranger is that if you do have damage, everything is worth killing, which usually improves your life/damage further, and it snowballs from there. But if you ever fall below a certain damage threshold (or never find any dmg), you can't engage anything because you run out of mana and you die in 3-4 hits.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 05 2013 16:03 GMT
#9190
It's crazy how out of sync the game sometimes gets and still works almost fine. I had a skeleton stop in a corner with half HP , i assumed it was from my aoe. He didn't take any more damage so i typed /oos and he suddenly warped to the other side of a wall(the nearest door was pretty far away) and i was moved a bit. Or the other time when i noticed a desynch and /oos'd and was moved 2 (!!!) rooms back. The combat worked almost fine , the monster hit me from really far away but i was clearing just fine O.o
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
July 05 2013 16:04 GMT
#9191
tbh I was just cheap seeing how much issues people have with rangers and only played duelists so far. :3
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-05 16:09:59
July 05 2013 16:05 GMT
#9192
This race i only skipped the second boss. I also always skip the first one when i can't combat him alone. I always rush the first zone, not killing anything.

The necro boss is really easy for Mara if you find a suitable 2 handed weapon before and picked Sweep.

To Pwere: True, at that point i had like 350 HP i think. And also probably around 30 cold res from gear (not from skillpoints yet).
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
July 05 2013 16:39 GMT
#9193
On July 06 2013 01:04 r.Evo wrote:
tbh I was just cheap seeing how much issues people have with rangers and only played duelists so far. :3
And yet somehow FleepQc is on top in half the descent races. I wonder what he knows that nugi and the rest don't.

There's also this Condemned guy who got #1 shadow and top 20 the last 3 races.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
July 05 2013 18:32 GMT
#9194
Necro/Alira are a lot easier if you use a templar (ice nova) or fp witch for corpse shattering. Not sure I would recommend fp witch, though, I did much better with firestorm (still nothing special though) because fp is sooooo bad in the cruel abyss.

Ice nova templar would have been my best race but I walked around an unlit corner into 5-6 exploding spawn in the abyss...
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
July 05 2013 19:34 GMT
#9195
mmhh what happened in the last 2-3 months? havent touched the game for a while after playing quite alot (70+ fp witch with 8k es, 16k dps etc). seems like exalteds are worth WAY WAY WAY more then before? how come? fp crit witch still good?

anything changed about the mapgame or is it still a huge currency draining rng clusterfuck?
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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
July 05 2013 22:04 GMT
#9196
I normally skip Alira, the Statue Boss usually, Merveil, and that is about it. Everything else you should evaluate on the fly, if you got some good rolls on your gear, take the 30s-1m to destroy the boss for gear.

Personally I love killing Chatters, I 4 shot him with Dual Strike + added fire as a duelist. Loot pinata!
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
July 05 2013 23:41 GMT
#9197
On July 06 2013 04:34 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
mmhh what happened in the last 2-3 months? havent touched the game for a while after playing quite alot (70+ fp witch with 8k es, 16k dps etc). seems like exalteds are worth WAY WAY WAY more then before? how come? fp crit witch still good?

anything changed about the mapgame or is it still a huge currency draining rng clusterfuck?


Map rolling has a very high skill cap. Every map needs different mods. If you use a shitload of currency and roll maps well, then lots of the RNG is taken out.

You do still need a group to fund the currency for the 73+ maze maps. Sometimes they take an exalt per maze, but usually it is around 8 chaos.

Exalts cost a lot more because they are the easiest to hoard and trade. People are going for perfect items. On HC exalts are 1:30 chaos but I hear it is really bad on softcore.
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SlixSC
Profile Joined October 2012
666 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 15:32:16
July 06 2013 15:15 GMT
#9198
All the people saying Rangers are bad in races don't know what they are talking about. It's obvious that Duelists are the best, but from my own experience (playing Ranger, Duelist and Witch - consistently placing top 100 overall and top 10 for every class) I think Rangers aren't much worse than Duelists. Witches on the other hand are easily the worst race class, by a long shot.

I got to lvl 17 in the last descent race with a ranger and it wasn't very difficult at all, I could have easily placed much higher, but it was my first descent with ranger and I heard everyone say how bad they are so I though I would have to take it slow. Well, I shouldn't have. I could have easily made lvl 19-20 had I not listened to all the people saying rangers are weak.

Once you get rain of arrows and 2 iron rings you pretty much 2 shot any mob pack. stack some life gear and you are good to go.

Just take perfect aim and greater impact key nodes with all the +atk speed and +phys damage nodes nearby and if you have a semi-decent bow you'll be one shoting most mob packs later on, only problem is finding a decent bow, but if you get a decent bow (and with all the alchs that's definitely a possibility) ranger is pretty much beast.

Most of my clanmates I talk to that play ranger just run around with crappy crude bows at lvl 10, they don't pick up long bows and alch them, which is the biggest mistake most ranger players make. often times a white long bow does significantly more damage than a rare crude bow and in some cases even a short bow( depending on rolls).

long bows have insane flat phys damage, sure they attack a little slower, but with all the +% phys damage nodes you get on ranger you can easily have 100dps at lvl 10-12.

edit: just look at top 3 per class, this confirms exactly what I'm saying. Duelists are best (and easiest), rangers are pretty solid and witches just suck.
http://www.pathofexile.com/signature-races/ladder
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
July 06 2013 15:44 GMT
#9199
Rangers are all about getting all the sweet gear. A nice quiver with damage , some iron rings, a good bow and you don't even need that much health. The biggest problem for rangers is actually getting to RoA and getting first quiver I found
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Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
July 06 2013 15:46 GMT
#9200
Is this game ever gonna come out? Its been in beta for like 2 years, I was hoping to try it while im still alive..
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