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Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
July 02 2013 19:34 GMT
#9141
Lol, I did the 150 minute immolation ancestral race today, I went ele cleave, got to 300 dps dual strike and 200 dps cleave at level 21, I think I placed at like 140th. I woke up as the even started, so I was massively behind, so I ended up having to find a party and ended up carrying this shadow to 150th or so. haha. Was fun. Only had 2 close calls and I was building for pure dps, so that was kinda surprising.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 02 2013 21:31 GMT
#9142
Another descent disaster day; I need to offer a sacrifice to the RNG god or something. Lost first two characters to rhoas. Restart and clear almost all of mlvl9 and not a single bow drop or medium flask. Go into statues and die because no gear
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 22:00:01
July 02 2013 21:59 GMT
#9143
Question. How the fuck do you survive in level 10? Pure flicker dischargers everywhere. I died the second I entered the first room. I was level 15, almost 16 when I made it past Chatters on a Marauder.
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 22:04:34
July 02 2013 22:00 GMT
#9144
hehe, died twice the last (this) descent race.

lvl 3 and lvl 19 (died 3 min before the end). lvl 19 is EXP record for me, and that even given i started 5 min late. that said, i had the best weapon luck ever. the second jade chopper i alched had +86% phys dmg, accuracy and 2 more stats that i dont remember. that weapon hit like a truck until even lvl 19.

oh and i died to a pack of flame sentinels. 3rd marauder apparently :> too bad i died, i could've been 2nd marauder. and without dying twice, probably 1st (if i had gotten that imba weapon, haha, yeah IF IF )
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
July 02 2013 22:03 GMT
#9145
My merveils room had about 90 mobs in it.. exploders and champion ele resist daughters everywhere.. I had to log out 5 times after killing large parts of the room slowly with firetrap FP and trying to run through. Got lvl 16 only as shadow this time, +1 cold scepter from first boss! woo, spawns with 1 red socket (WTF) .. 2 jewelers to get 2 sockets... 2 chromes to get 1 blue + 1 red, so i couldnt even link it with what i wanted to.

My alchs on defensive gear gave 0 resists as well, such bad luck I dont even know hah. Once i got the blue gem on +1 cold I made alot of ground, but before then it was a lost cause.
rSLagLovah on NA xSixLagLovah on Kr
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 22:11:35
July 02 2013 22:05 GMT
#9146
Finally a decent race... #46, 6th Ranger, lvl 18. I was super careful for the discharger and ribbon levels, didn't know what to expect. 700k was probably within reach if I pushed more. I had insane dps at the statue level and could clear a pack in ~4 shots. But I still ran through the Merveil room. So many mobs in that room...

Went with RoA, all offensive passives, and focused on quiver, gloves and rings...

ps. Found cleave on the statue level, along with two excellent rare weapons. A Templar with that might have set a world record...
Vinski
Profile Joined November 2010
505 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 22:22:25
July 02 2013 22:07 GMT
#9147
Got to level 13 with a Marauder. Found some okay weapons. I used 2 alch orbs I got from a chest on some good weapons. I got lost a few times in the church, that really sucked. Still don't know how some of you guys got that high. My jade chopper wasn't that bad. Was about to roll another weapon with currency. I think I should just use more of the currency as I go on.

I did pick some bad chests, then again that was my first Descent race. But still got Hatred/Anger (don't remember), but if I used it I would only have like 20 mana. Anyone got tips on Marauder for descent and races in general?

LOL Now that I realize it, I went through the Merveil thing without ever seeing her. That was good, but her daughters were a pain.
"Sound is in a bad marriage, instead of divorcing her and keeping half your shit, he just committed suicide"
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 22:34:23
July 02 2013 22:09 GMT
#9148
On July 03 2013 07:05 Pwere wrote:
Finally a decent race... #46, 6th Ranger. I was super careful for the discharger and ribbon levels, didn't know what to expect. 700k was probably within reach if I pushed more. I had insane dps at the statue level and could clear a pack in ~4 shots.

Went with RoA, all offensive passives, and focused on quiver, gloves and rings.

congrats to you too. my weapon was so insane too ... one shot the small statues, 2 shot the very big ones. i killed merveil in like 10 seconds. was unreal, must've been the best weapon ever for me in races.

it's not hard to get a really good one for marauder. you can get like 5 alchs and 3 chaos from the chests, but i even got it on my second alch. pretty lucky.

edit: @ the above: i guess you picked anger instead leap slam. i'd consider that a huge mistake, but perhaps you were gonna play ground slam anyway (which would be slower but more safe).

that duelist set up a new exp record. i thought so, he was lvl 22 pretty fast.

also some tips for descent race as marauder:
walk through the first zone without killing anything except maybe the boss for the drops. loot all the chests, though. get alluring chest for quicksilver or if you think you'll be unlucky with life pots go for the curious provision.
after that, get one level up in the next zone. you might have to be careful, depending on if you had luck with the chests in the first zone etc. i always pick sweep here, i like the aoe of it. sweep is in the curious provision
in the third zone i'd level up quite a bit, maybe until lvl 5. after that i wouldn't skip too much, just kill everything until you find your way to the next zone. preferably don't kill single monsters though.

skills i go heavy strike (obviously) for single target, for aoe the/my priority would be groundslam into sweep into leap slam (with added fire; gotta check the provision rewards here)

as for how to skill:
usually i go damage first, except if you dont find any corals or life on your equip for until like lvl 4-5. after that i go all the way to this.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 22:59:11
July 02 2013 22:58 GMT
#9149
Figures I run into a room with 40 mobs with flicker strike. Having double lightning rings didn't even help, rofl.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
July 02 2013 23:03 GMT
#9150
Even though I died that was one of my best descent races so far, was at 12, 80% and got to the end of the cruel frost cave and died about 35 minutes in. I was around 120~ on the ladder when I died. Im really enjoying these races. 4th descent and 6th race overall that I've done, so it's really fun to see the improvements. It took me about 55 minutes to get that far on the 3rd descent race.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-02 23:54:46
July 02 2013 23:53 GMT
#9151
On July 03 2013 07:05 Pwere wrote:
Finally a decent race... #46, 6th Ranger, lvl 18. I was super careful for the discharger and ribbon levels, didn't know what to expect. 700k was probably within reach if I pushed more. I had insane dps at the statue level and could clear a pack in ~4 shots. But I still ran through the Merveil room. So many mobs in that room...

Went with RoA, all offensive passives, and focused on quiver, gloves and rings...

ps. Found cleave on the statue level, along with two excellent rare weapons. A Templar with that might have set a world record...


You could have been #1 ranger with cleave easily :p

In the third zone with the necromancers; you can only get experience from a mob once right? I never seem to be able to kill the raisers with poison arrow so I normally try to kill the mobs once and then run away, but I'm not entirely sure how the mechanics work on that.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 00:21:21
July 03 2013 00:10 GMT
#9152
Cleave isn't that godly, considering that rangers waste so much time in the first 3 zones, before you can get RoA + short bow. Plus I didn't find upgrades for my swords, and I'd still need my bow for single target...

I think finding a 2h sword + leap slam would be more significant at that point.

As for summoned/res'd mobs, I think you're right: they don't give XP. If you can't snipe the necro, just running away is fine, since you don't need that much XP from that zone with Poison Arrow.

What's the best way to get lvl 4 for RoA? I killed a blue pack of snakes in the first zone, and found a quiver so I could get level 3 in the 2nd zone very easily, but split arrow is so bad in the 1st/3rd zone if you don't find an iron ring or quiver. It seems I can easily waste ~5 minutes getting those levels if I don't get lucky.

Btw, grats on that Marauder finish, very impressive after a death.

Edit: That quiver you get at the end of Frozen Abyss is lvl 13, and thus can roll all tier 2 damage mods. Best use of alch/chaos for Rangers, imo. All the stuff I didn't have to know as a duelist..
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 03 2013 00:42 GMT
#9153
Resurrected mobs/ summons don't give xp
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 00:46:40
July 03 2013 00:43 GMT
#9154
I always play poison arrow since I don't like rain of arrows. I use the ice shot it comes with in the statue zone since they're all chaos resist. Once you get fork it's amazing in the ice caves and monkey area. You pretty much douse the area in poison while you run through and everything dies

None of the mobs in the first two zones really stick out as good exp material. I always try to kill the bandits in the second zone, but I'm not sure that is the best choice.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 03:01:42
July 03 2013 03:00 GMT
#9155
How are points calculated for race leagues?

Also; any tips for descent league? only did it twice so far.
I'm guessing for the first zone you just skip all the mobs?
Farm up 2nd zone a bit?
liftlift > tsm
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 04:05:13
July 03 2013 03:17 GMT
#9156
On July 03 2013 12:00 wei2coolman wrote:
How are points calculated for race leagues?

Also; any tips for descent league? only did it twice so far.
I'm guessing for the first zone you just skip all the mobs?
Farm up 2nd zone a bit?


What do you mean by points calculated?

Your strategy depends a lot on which class you're playing. Skipping the first zone and ditching the second when you get to level 2 is a good plan for all of them though. You should still pick off good pockets of exp where possible and loot chests. Facing rhoas with no armor can be pretty dangerous.

The best thing you can do is probably watch a vod of one of the racers to see what they do and then you can ask questions about why they do it if you're confused about something. Pick a class and stick with it first though. Duelist is the easiest, but it also has the largest player population which means placing high will be much harder (assuming you're out to win a stride; if you just want season points then easymode is the way to go). Shadow and Witch are bringing up the rear so I'd avoid them if you're new to racing.

Easy                                                                        Hard
Duelist > Marauder > Ranger = Templar > Witch = Shadow

All of this only applies to descent races.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Wineandbread
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-03 03:27:40
July 03 2013 03:27 GMT
#9157
I think he means how you earn points per race

Each race has its own distribution of points. Typically they give out points for:

- Hitting a certain level (easiest way to rack points)
- Achieving top 20th or above in your class (in terms of level)
- Being the first to do something (eg. full clear Fetid, kill Fairgraves, etc.)

Unless you mean how they determine what value of reward points is assigned to a specific achievement, in which case I would say it's pretty arbitrary. It will vary based on the game mode & time: harder races tend to be more forgiving on the level rewards. It always seems to be like 2 pts for any quest/full clear objective.
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
July 03 2013 18:36 GMT
#9158
I think Damage -> Point Blank -> Thick Skin is the best build for RoA in Descent.
You take damage first for early clear speed, then you rush for Point Blank, which you pick right after the Skeletal Cave. Everything from here on charges at you (Dischargers, whirling blades, ribbons), so you can rip them apart, and pick Thick Skin right in time for Exiles.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 01:08:05
July 03 2013 23:39 GMT
#9159
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AoYgKe1CFjlrdHhKMzFyT21xMVlENUdDSnhkTWh5OHc
Spreadsheet of Descent chest rewards that I figured you guys might want to have handy.

Edit: Ending up placing 180th. This is the first time I haven't died in Descent (all of my other races died at around 12-14 in the ice cave.) Ironically becuase I played safer with bad RNG, I ended up making it farther. Got to level 16,
www.twitch.tv/varanice
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 00:25:41
July 04 2013 00:22 GMT
#9160
Got that unique ring from the first boss ^_^ Then died to rhoas.

Four deaths in 24 minutes. New personal best.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
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