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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 19:15:04
April 16 2013 19:13 GMT
#8241
Math of Exile is the best game. If you actually play the game you just die and lose your character. Much safer to mathcraft and just not play.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Gary Oak
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2381 Posts
April 16 2013 19:29 GMT
#8242
On April 17 2013 04:03 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 03:58 Gary Oak wrote:
On April 17 2013 03:54 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On April 17 2013 03:45 Gary Oak wrote:
On April 17 2013 02:31 Sn0_Man wrote:
On April 17 2013 02:25 Gary Oak wrote:
On April 17 2013 01:01 Sn0_Man wrote:
So um, what is the plan for melee classes and Merciless Brutus?

Decoy totem?

I lost my level 57 Ele Cleave Templar to Merciless Brutus last weekend by using Decoy. He ignored and I think he desynced on me and 2 shot me. My new toon is a Lightning Cleave Marauder, but I'm still Ground Slam/Heavy Strike spec until level 55-60. My plan for Brutus is Enfeeble and Skeleton Totem. I did this for Cruel Brutus and Vaal and both bosses were a complete joke (well, I did Temp Chains on Vaal, but yeah). Not sure if I should Temp Chains Brutus instead of Enfeeble. I just hope I can find a Granite before Merciless. Either way, I'm farming Ledge until I hit DR.


DR = Diminishing returns?

I just finished farming ledge to 59 (I think thats the end of full XP) last night on my Heavy Strike/Ground Slam marauder and now I have to kill brutus so Skele totem + enfeeble is indeed the plan.

PS: It seems a lot easier to get decent 2 hand maces than it does to get decent ele-cleave weapons. And jewelery. Etc. Plus I don't really want to fork over for a quality cleave right now

E: oops double post

Diminishing Returns, yeah. The formula is fairly simple. How many times does 16 evenly divide into the area's level? It'd be 3 for Ledge. Adding 3 to that, you get 6. Add 6 to Ledge's level, and that sum is your highest level with full EXP. One level above that, and you receive 90%, so you can feasibly farm until 1-2 levels above "max" in a zone, so you can technically farm until 60, I believe, without a DR. 61 if you don't mind the 10% loss.


The formula is based on the player level, not the area level. There is also a separate formula to calculate how much experience you gain by being over.

((PlayerLevel +5)^1.5) / ((PlayerLevel+5+(EffectiveDifference^2.5))^1.5)
PlayerLevel is the player's level
EffectiveDifference is the number of levels beyond the full exp range. So a level 60 character at ledge would have an effective difference of one


((60+5)^1.5) / (((60+5+(1^2.5))^1.5) = ~98% exp gain for level 60@merciless ledge.

I was referencing Effective Difference. I thought you calculated it by seeing how many times 16 went into a zone's level, adding 3 to that number, and then adding (or subtracting) that to the zone to come up with the level range a player would receive full EXP from an area. Beyond that, you receive an exponential penalty to EXP gains. Though my knowledge of the system is evidently incomplete, I was still right about being able to farm it with no penalty until level 60 on Merciless, and 61 with only a minor hit.


The effective difference is based on the player's level, not the zones level. If you change zone's level to player's level then you've got it correct.

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There is a safe level range where no penalty is applied, which is equal to three, plus one for every sixteen complete player levels. Any additional level difference in excess of this safe range is called the Effective Difference.

source

Oh, so I understood everything except the level being looked at. Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up!
[14:15] <+Skrammen> I like clicking Gary's links, kinda. Its like playing with lava.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 16 2013 19:47 GMT
#8243
What is a 5-link chest worth?

A) I'm starting to need one
and
B) I found an evasion one I can't wear but I don't know what to sell it for
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
niuage
Profile Joined October 2011
United States175 Posts
April 16 2013 22:37 GMT
#8244
On April 16 2013 15:49 slained wrote:
@niuage I really dig the cleanness of your site! As a new web developer I hope I can create some features like you do one day.

Any chance on a WTB section for poeexplorer? or even cataloguing the wtb?


Thanks Just keep learning and building sites and you will.

For the WTB section, I'm not sure what I can do better than the forums. Since, obviously, players dont have the items they want to buy, what would I index?
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Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
April 16 2013 22:52 GMT
#8245
On April 17 2013 04:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
What is a 5-link chest worth?

A) I'm starting to need one
and
B) I found an evasion one I can't wear but I don't know what to sell it for



Is it white or rare ? if rare what stats? and most important of all what ilvl is it ?
Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
April 17 2013 01:06 GMT
#8246
On April 17 2013 07:37 niuage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2013 15:49 slained wrote:
@niuage I really dig the cleanness of your site! As a new web developer I hope I can create some features like you do one day.

Any chance on a WTB section for poeexplorer? or even cataloguing the wtb?


Thanks Just keep learning and building sites and you will.

For the WTB section, I'm not sure what I can do better than the forums. Since, obviously, players dont have the items they want to buy, what would I index?


Niuage! New thought. Not sure if possible. Can you make the armor/es/evasion selections instead of open fields? Like you would select if you wanted straight armor or armor/es, etc. Then when you check mark what you wanted it would ask you for a minimum if you wanted to input one. It's harder to find a pure armor/es/eva item right now.
"Daaayyyy9, King Pussyfoot of NinnyVille"- Day9 while playing Amnesia
Daumen
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1073 Posts
April 17 2013 01:33 GMT
#8247
On April 17 2013 04:13 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Math of Exile


LOL that name, genius ;D
President of the ReaL Fan Club.
niuage
Profile Joined October 2011
United States175 Posts
April 17 2013 01:54 GMT
#8248
On April 17 2013 10:06 Xinder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 07:37 niuage wrote:
On April 16 2013 15:49 slained wrote:
@niuage I really dig the cleanness of your site! As a new web developer I hope I can create some features like you do one day.

Any chance on a WTB section for poeexplorer? or even cataloguing the wtb?


Thanks Just keep learning and building sites and you will.

For the WTB section, I'm not sure what I can do better than the forums. Since, obviously, players dont have the items they want to buy, what would I index?


Niuage! New thought. Not sure if possible. Can you make the armor/es/evasion selections instead of open fields? Like you would select if you wanted straight armor or armor/es, etc. Then when you check mark what you wanted it would ask you for a minimum if you wanted to input one. It's harder to find a pure armor/es/eva item right now.


It's not clear, AT ALL, that you can do that, but if you enter 0 in one of these 3 fields (armor/es/eva), it will exclude items that have this attribute. So if you want to search for pure ES, then you would enter 0 and 0 in eva and armour.
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Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 05:33:12
April 17 2013 03:15 GMT
#8249
On April 17 2013 10:54 niuage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 10:06 Xinder wrote:
On April 17 2013 07:37 niuage wrote:
On April 16 2013 15:49 slained wrote:
@niuage I really dig the cleanness of your site! As a new web developer I hope I can create some features like you do one day.

Any chance on a WTB section for poeexplorer? or even cataloguing the wtb?


Thanks Just keep learning and building sites and you will.

For the WTB section, I'm not sure what I can do better than the forums. Since, obviously, players dont have the items they want to buy, what would I index?


Niuage! New thought. Not sure if possible. Can you make the armor/es/evasion selections instead of open fields? Like you would select if you wanted straight armor or armor/es, etc. Then when you check mark what you wanted it would ask you for a minimum if you wanted to input one. It's harder to find a pure armor/es/eva item right now.


It's not clear, AT ALL, that you can do that, but if you enter 0 in one of these 3 fields (armor/es/eva), it will exclude items that have this attribute. So if you want to search for pure ES, then you would enter 0 and 0 in eva and armour.


OHHHHHHHHHHHH ok. No problem. I will remember that from now on. Maybe add a tooltip or something somewhere that says it? Excellent site as usual, just trying to come up with helpful ideas.

EDIT: On a side note does anyone have chroms they'd be willing to part with in a trade for GCPs?
"Daaayyyy9, King Pussyfoot of NinnyVille"- Day9 while playing Amnesia
SlixSC
Profile Joined October 2012
666 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 06:50:01
April 18 2013 06:49 GMT
#8250
What's a soul mantel worth?

Just sold one for 1 Chin Sol (5L 6S), 16 Chaos and 2 GCP. Feel like I got ripped off, but I really needed the Chin and didn't need the Soul Mantel at all.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 18 2013 07:45 GMT
#8251
on the path of exile trade forum it ranges between 2 exalted and 6 exalted, although i don't know what's average.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 15:04:15
April 18 2013 15:03 GMT
#8252
Next patch increases the drop rate of uniques. Having no unique drops so far (no that I played all that long) I am kinda excited.

I also get kinda mad when a friend of mine dropped a unique on his first hillock (FUUUUUUU) and the other dropped 2 uniques on his first Brutus (FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU)
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 16:02:24
April 18 2013 15:33 GMT
#8253
Yeah, I ran a char to 33 and got 1 unique (kinda lucky).
Then I ran one to 55 and got 1 unique again.
My current one is at 63 and has dropped 5 uniques (!). (Matua tupuna, Blackheart, Andvarius, Heatshiver and Fairgraves)

PS I made a random duelist just to get a cleave gem and when I killed hillock a unique iron ring (blackheart) dropped. I was so sad that it wasn't like a race or something.

LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
April 18 2013 15:40 GMT
#8254
What is a Tabula Rasa worth? It's a Unique chestpiece which is 6L no sockets.
Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
April 18 2013 15:45 GMT
#8255
I believe the price was a 2-4 exalted in HC. But seeing it is a race reward now it might drop in value.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 18 2013 15:53 GMT
#8256
Sounds like they made it harder to chance Koams. Not really surprised.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
April 18 2013 15:57 GMT
#8257
On April 19 2013 00:03 Qbek wrote:
Next patch increases the drop rate of uniques. Having no unique drops so far (no that I played all that long) I am kinda excited.

I also get kinda mad when a friend of mine dropped a unique on his first hillock (FUUUUUUU) and the other dropped 2 uniques on his first Brutus (FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU)


Just means you're saving all your luck for map drops. If your first unique is a kaoms or lioneye's or some other big name item then it will all be worth it :p
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
April 18 2013 15:59 GMT
#8258
On April 19 2013 00:57 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2013 00:03 Qbek wrote:
Next patch increases the drop rate of uniques. Having no unique drops so far (no that I played all that long) I am kinda excited.

I also get kinda mad when a friend of mine dropped a unique on his first hillock (FUUUUUUU) and the other dropped 2 uniques on his first Brutus (FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU)


Just means you're saving all your luck for map drops. If your first unique is a kaoms or lioneye's or some other big name item then it will all be worth it :p

It bloody well better be something really good!
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 18 2013 16:17 GMT
#8259
Incoming ondar's clasp

Oh yeah I found one of those too that makes 6 on my current char.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
niuage
Profile Joined October 2011
United States175 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-18 19:32:08
April 18 2013 18:25 GMT
#8260
On April 19 2013 00:03 Qbek wrote:
Next patch increases the drop rate of uniques. Having no unique drops so far (no that I played all that long) I am kinda excited.

I also get kinda mad when a friend of mine dropped a unique on his first hillock (FUUUUUUU) and the other dropped 2 uniques on his first Brutus (FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU)


Most are useless and "worthless". I found maybe 20 with my lvl 82. The only one who was worth a good amount was a Lioneye's glare. When I found it, I had no idea it was this rare and expensive ^^.

Btw, I'm starting to play HC. First character made it to lvl 38. Now I'm lvl 22 after 2h. I'm playing a very popular build, the shadow freeze pulse. First time I try freeze pulse, I like it. But there isn't that much health in the shadow starting area...

edit: yesterday, I had a huge spike of people visiting poexplorer.com, something like 170+ people at the same time. It lasted for like 10 minutes, and then it slowly went down to the usual. There were no sources in my analytics so I have no idea what happened ^^ If by any chance you see it mentioned somewhere popular , let me know
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