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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
March 30 2013 14:18 GMT
#8021
well, they lost me with the loot system.

I dont want to solo all day, but i also dont want to deal with idiots that try to wall me off from my loot so they can ninja it or similar stuff.


Not my game i guess, im a friendly person in PC games and want to play WITH people.
Shinbi
Profile Joined December 2009
338 Posts
March 30 2013 14:39 GMT
#8022
On March 30 2013 23:18 LaNague wrote:
well, they lost me with the loot system.

I dont want to solo all day, but i also dont want to deal with idiots that try to wall me off from my loot so they can ninja it or similar stuff.


Not my game i guess, im a friendly person in PC games and want to play WITH people.




This is what I don't get. Multiple people have expressed concerns over the loot system, saying that they don't want to solo all the time because they're sociable/friendly people and want to play the game with others, but they don't want to group with randoms in the game who will go off and "steal" loot from them.

And they're posting this on TL where multiple people have expressed this concern.

If you actually want to play the game *with* people who will respect your rules, then why not find these other players who share similar viewpoints, on the very same site you are posting your complaints, and group with them if that is your only complaint about the game so far? Even a simple "Hey, if anybody on TL wants to play with me, add my character YYY" or "Hey, if anybody on TL wants to play with me, PM me with your character name".

As for the guy who was saying that there a giant loot explosions in groups because of the IIQ, and it's difficult to find your item that has the timer, use Z. Unless things have changed recently, it will only display items that have your timer on them (note: This also means if you don't get to it in time, it will stop displaying its name).
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 16:17:29
March 30 2013 16:17 GMT
#8023
On March 30 2013 23:39 Shinbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 23:18 LaNague wrote:
well, they lost me with the loot system.

I dont want to solo all day, but i also dont want to deal with idiots that try to wall me off from my loot so they can ninja it or similar stuff.


Not my game i guess, im a friendly person in PC games and want to play WITH people.




This is what I don't get. Multiple people have expressed concerns over the loot system, saying that they don't want to solo all the time because they're sociable/friendly people and want to play the game with others, but they don't want to group with randoms in the game who will go off and "steal" loot from them.

And they're posting this on TL where multiple people have expressed this concern.

If you actually want to play the game *with* people who will respect your rules, then why not find these other players who share similar viewpoints, on the very same site you are posting your complaints, and group with them if that is your only complaint about the game so far? Even a simple "Hey, if anybody on TL wants to play with me, add my character YYY" or "Hey, if anybody on TL wants to play with me, PM me with your character name".

As for the guy who was saying that there a giant loot explosions in groups because of the IIQ, and it's difficult to find your item that has the timer, use Z. Unless things have changed recently, it will only display items that have your timer on them (note: This also means if you don't get to it in time, it will stop displaying its name).




i guess the limit on how much people go out of their way to try to make a game work for them is just very low for free to play games?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
March 30 2013 17:08 GMT
#8024
On March 31 2013 01:17 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 23:39 Shinbi wrote:
On March 30 2013 23:18 LaNague wrote:
well, they lost me with the loot system.

I dont want to solo all day, but i also dont want to deal with idiots that try to wall me off from my loot so they can ninja it or similar stuff.


Not my game i guess, im a friendly person in PC games and want to play WITH people.




This is what I don't get. Multiple people have expressed concerns over the loot system, saying that they don't want to solo all the time because they're sociable/friendly people and want to play the game with others, but they don't want to group with randoms in the game who will go off and "steal" loot from them.

And they're posting this on TL where multiple people have expressed this concern.

If you actually want to play the game *with* people who will respect your rules, then why not find these other players who share similar viewpoints, on the very same site you are posting your complaints, and group with them if that is your only complaint about the game so far? Even a simple "Hey, if anybody on TL wants to play with me, add my character YYY" or "Hey, if anybody on TL wants to play with me, PM me with your character name".

As for the guy who was saying that there a giant loot explosions in groups because of the IIQ, and it's difficult to find your item that has the timer, use Z. Unless things have changed recently, it will only display items that have your timer on them (note: This also means if you don't get to it in time, it will stop displaying its name).


i guess the limit on how much people go out of their way to try to make a game work for them is just very low for free to play games?


Loot issues are one of the hottest topics on the official boards beaten only by the mapping system probably. The issues are pretty intertwined though so you might even consider them the same thing. I imagine more overhauls are in the pipelines, but it is impossible to say when they'll be satisfactory.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 17:36:37
March 30 2013 17:35 GMT
#8025
On March 30 2013 23:39 Shinbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 23:18 LaNague wrote:
well, they lost me with the loot system.

I dont want to solo all day, but i also dont want to deal with idiots that try to wall me off from my loot so they can ninja it or similar stuff.


Not my game i guess, im a friendly person in PC games and want to play WITH people.




This is what I don't get. Multiple people have expressed concerns over the loot system, saying that they don't want to solo all the time because they're sociable/friendly people and want to play the game with others, but they don't want to group with randoms in the game who will go off and "steal" loot from them.

And they're posting this on TL where multiple people have expressed this concern.

If you actually want to play the game *with* people who will respect your rules, then why not find these other players who share similar viewpoints, on the very same site you are posting your complaints, and group with them if that is your only complaint about the game so far? Even a simple "Hey, if anybody on TL wants to play with me, add my character YYY" or "Hey, if anybody on TL wants to play with me, PM me with your character name".

As for the guy who was saying that there a giant loot explosions in groups because of the IIQ, and it's difficult to find your item that has the timer, use Z. Unless things have changed recently, it will only display items that have your timer on them (note: This also means if you don't get to it in time, it will stop displaying its name).


so? i wrote my ign like 5 times over the span of 3 weeks in this thread and a total of 3 people (one of which i actually contacted) are now in my fl. oh btw one hasnt played since like 3-4 weeks, other switched to hc.

i more or less found a group i can map with which was lucky, its not in any way like your just gonna find a bunch of trustworthy nice guys that are on a similar level,similar times on etc etc.
the loot can turn people off. thats why i solod from my witch almost evrything. started soloing docks from 58 and maps from 64 all the way up to 75 where i finally found some guys to map with.



and right now im abit in this situation again. im soloing low maps with quantity/rarity gear and have nothing else to do if other guys arent on. doing even 69+ maps with randoms is just shitty.

infact since i cant map with randoms and mapgame is frustrating as fuck for the first time since i downloaded the beta i havent played the game for more then 3 days. those 2 issues just keep me from doing anything fun in the game .
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
March 30 2013 22:50 GMT
#8026
Are wealth mobs an actual thing? if so I think I just found some on a 48% packsize map, It was around a corner and I'm totems with MF so I didn't go look, but it took 4 trips to town just for the rares alone, my entire screen was covered in items, 2 unique's as well, craziness.
rSLagLovah on NA xSixLagLovah on Kr
InsertSmurfHere
Profile Joined March 2013
288 Posts
March 30 2013 22:57 GMT
#8027
On March 31 2013 07:50 LagLovah wrote:
Are wealth mobs an actual thing? if so I think I just found some on a 48% packsize map, It was around a corner and I'm totems with MF so I didn't go look, but it took 4 trips to town just for the rares alone, my entire screen was covered in items, 2 unique's as well, craziness.

That would be wealth mobs, yes.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
March 30 2013 23:03 GMT
#8028
Sick. Got two level 73 and 74 and haven't seen a wealth mob as of yet.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
March 30 2013 23:37 GMT
#8029
Well that would be my first pack of them as well.. and i have a 79 50 + 72 along with a plethora of race characters.

RNG today has been so sick though, made over an exalt on trades, found a magnate, new wand ... etc etc

rSLagLovah on NA xSixLagLovah on Kr
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
March 30 2013 23:46 GMT
#8030
On the topic of loot distribution and "forced solo play" I can only say "Diablo2".
Pretty sure loot grabbing didn't keep ppl from grouping up at all. So yeah- sand in vagina much ?
11 years and counting- TL #680
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 23:59:04
March 30 2013 23:58 GMT
#8031
On March 31 2013 08:46 Monsen wrote:
On the topic of loot distribution and "forced solo play" I can only say "Diablo2".
Pretty sure loot grabbing didn't keep ppl from grouping up at all. So yeah- sand in vagina much ?


No, that's not a good argument at all.

Yes, Diablo 2 had FFA loots, but it was very problematic - and this was exacerbated by the fact that you can run hacks that allows auto-picking. It worked back then because there weren't a lot of games back then. Similarly, if you make a game with awkward and restricted UI like SCBW now (i.e. SBS, 12 units control group), absolutely no one will play the game. The point is, FFA loot distribution is ancient and no one uses it anymore because it sucks.

I am not sure how the looting works right now on POE, but back when I played a month ago, basically in a party as soon as something drops, EVERYONE STOPS FIGHTING MOBS AND MOVE TOWARD THE DROP TO CAMP IT, because the loot allocation system gives you only a couple of seconds to pick something up. Honestly that's even worse than FFA.

POE needs a good loot allocation system that is fair and modern. I think once an item is dropped, it needs to be assigned to a player for at least 5 minutes. Heck, even TL2's system is way better than POE's.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
N1k0
Profile Joined June 2011
Uruguay1075 Posts
March 31 2013 02:25 GMT
#8032
welp so my LA marauder just died. Well time to make a dual spark templar
Butcherski
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland446 Posts
March 31 2013 02:26 GMT
#8033
Yeah the mapping system needs a bit of work. IMO it shouldnt be based on how much currency you have. The % to drop maps should be the same for all of them so that over the long term you are going up in maps. The currency investement should count howeever towards items / currency drops so that you get something back if you invest in proper mods.
"Well Tasteless, i once met a three-toed sloth with good marauder control " - Artosis
N1k0
Profile Joined June 2011
Uruguay1075 Posts
March 31 2013 02:29 GMT
#8034
On March 31 2013 11:26 Butcherski wrote:
Yeah the mapping system needs a bit of work. IMO it shouldnt be based on how much currency you have. The % to drop maps should be the same for all of them so that over the long term you are going up in maps. The currency investement should count howeever towards items / currency drops so that you get something back if you invest in proper mods.

The problem with that is the resulting increase in inflation
Butcherski
Profile Joined April 2010
Poland446 Posts
March 31 2013 03:16 GMT
#8035
Inflation is good if its not extreme like it was the case with D3. GGG Already said they are going to do something like d2 ladder resets. They can start a new league every 6 months and when it ends all chars go to the current parent league and a new one starts.
"Well Tasteless, i once met a three-toed sloth with good marauder control " - Artosis
Shinbi
Profile Joined December 2009
338 Posts
March 31 2013 03:19 GMT
#8036
On March 31 2013 12:16 Butcherski wrote:
Inflation is good if its not extreme like it was the case with D3. GGG Already said they are going to do something like d2 ladder resets. They can start a new league every 6 months and when it ends all chars go to the current parent league and a new one starts.



You have a link for this? As IIRC, they said they weren't doing this.
jeefzors
Profile Joined March 2011
United States120 Posts
March 31 2013 03:32 GMT
#8037


so? i wrote my ign like 5 times over the span of 3 weeks in this thread and a total of 3 people (one of which i actually contacted) are now in my fl. oh btw one hasnt played since like 3-4 weeks, other switched to hc.


If you're talking about me, I think we're just missing each other cause of time zone difference now. Been having to solo all these maps I find (something like 6 66s now lol) when I get on and you aren't.
Thanks to denial, I'm immortal. -Fry
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
March 31 2013 09:32 GMT
#8038
Really can't wait till they start adding new endgame worthy stuff to keep you busy. Farming hundreds of maps surely got me bored and PvP is atrocious atm.

Maybe I should try my luck at crafting, thats surely a thrill but makes you feel like shit when it fails horribly lol
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
Yomi.Doom
Profile Joined April 2010
United States383 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 01:18:22
March 31 2013 12:26 GMT
#8039
If anyone wants to see how I do easymode PA/FT for the 1 hour, I streamed the last one I did.

http://www.twitch.tv/yomims/b/384746475
Starts at ~9:17

Some stupid moments... especially at the beginning and end. RNG was pretty bad, but not too horrendous.

Shoulda lost this one, but the shadow above me died.

#4 overall, #1 shadow in this race
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
March 31 2013 15:13 GMT
#8040
On March 31 2013 18:32 Archers_bane wrote:
Really can't wait till they start adding new endgame worthy stuff to keep you busy. Farming hundreds of maps surely got me bored and PvP is atrocious atm.

Maybe I should try my luck at crafting, thats surely a thrill but makes you feel like shit when it fails horribly lol

Yeah.. I just wasted about 6 ex trying to craft a bow last week, it almost makes me want to quit, becuase I know my character will probably never be able to do higher level maps. Especially with Life on Hit being changed. (Which was a major nerf for me at my current DPS, right after I spent 1ex to get a 20% life on hit. T_T)
www.twitch.tv/varanice
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