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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
March 01 2013 18:19 GMT
#7061
I just lost a brand new witch to a stupid disconnection. That has to be the most fucking retarded feature in the game ... You can cheat the system by alt+f4'ing but when you have a legitimate disconnection you just have to pray you character doesn't die until the backend server finally realizes you are completely oos. This is so infuriating ...
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
March 01 2013 18:33 GMT
#7062
On March 02 2013 02:05 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 01:17 r.Evo wrote:
Kal: http://poespreadsheet.blogspot.de/ does pretty okay. Especially combined with: http://poe.xyz.is/ for trickier cases.

As to for why it's worth that much...? You can take a white item with great sockets/links, transmute it to magic, use alterations till you get a good roll, Regal it to get it to rare (+2 properties) and if your stats on the item are STILL good you can use exalt to add +2 properties once more. It's the only way to craft the very best items pretty much.


On another note, merciless is where this game starts to get interesting. Everything is scary, people are friendly and pub parties get rare. I'm scared of Merveil despite 79% cold res. o.o


What? I had 6% cold resistance at HC merciless Merveil and barely took any damage (2600 hp).....

Yeah, turned out to be a total cakewalk. Welp. >_>
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
March 01 2013 18:54 GMT
#7063
hey i have a mechanics question.

how much EHP do you gain going from 75% all resist to 80% (with the talent)? I've been debating this skill node but I'm not sure it's worth it.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
March 01 2013 19:01 GMT
#7064
to elemental damage?
1/.25 = 400% => 1/.2 = 500% ehp
so around 25% more ehp versus elemental damage assuming you cap your resistance
AnotherRandom
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada81 Posts
March 01 2013 21:10 GMT
#7065
So I've been getting tired of the limited audience in the trade chat and decided to make my own trade thread on the PoE forums. Apparently people actually want the stuff I have, who knew. 15% added lightning damage is going for an exalt apparently, go figure.

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/211400
Feel free to take a look.
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Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 21:24:05
March 01 2013 21:23 GMT
#7066
Starting a HC character. How does firestorm/detonate dead (with AoE+ passives) work late game? Sounds fun
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AnotherRandom
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada81 Posts
March 01 2013 21:35 GMT
#7067
I've read that EK is supposed to be really good. How do people normally build an EK character? I've read that they usually link EK with Added Fire Damage and Chain, but what about the character? Do people go for +ele dmg nodes or is the skill damage enough? If you don't really need any +dmg nodes of any kind, I was wondering how a a tanky shield class would work and was considering marauder/templar. I was also wondering if it was plausible to try for a triple charge conduit build, again if EK doesn't need any +dmg from the passive tree.

Also is EK heavily item dependent? If it's not too reliant on gear I'd like to take a stab at my first HC char (also why I was considering build super tanky).
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 21:52:23
March 01 2013 21:52 GMT
#7068
EK benefits from Spell damage. Elemental nodes would be mostly useless since EK does physical damage. Your added fire damage and possibly hatred would benefit, but that isn't really efficient when most of your damage is physical.

A conduit build should have main attack Frenzy most likely. Volls to pick up power charges and enduring cry to keep up endurance charges. Using EK in a conduit build doesn't really serve a purpose.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
electrondude
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany27 Posts
March 01 2013 22:08 GMT
#7069
General speaking just pick a class and look and at the corosponding forum there is most likely a EK build for it Since you are playing hc damage nodes are always something you take at a very late state so dont worry about them . Basically get as much hp and make your way to EB maybe get Iron grip . Im playing a melee EK hybrid atm im at the end of cruel and gear makes thinks easier but dps stats aren't that important . As you may already know the most dmg comes from proper linked sockets especially with a spell based build .I suggest you just read about the mechanics in general since some of them don´t work as expected . Right now you dont have much of a choice , almost every build who trys to be viable in higher maps is super tanky. Honestly just make your own build its much more fun and you always learn something and get ideas for the next one .
Anyway if you just wanna get a general idea this is a common ek shadow build :
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYAAnEC4wSzB6UMfRB_ES0UTRVQFecWbxa_GYUaOBpsHNwkPCSqJpUnqSlPKlssnC0fLUc26TrYRKtJUUmyTdhQQlVLVa5VxlptXfJgbWHiYqxtGW17cFJw1XOzfIN-WX_GgW-CEIIegziH24w2jHaOZI6-j0aPppBVnYCdrp48oW2iAKIuoqOnCKdcp4S1SLb6uJO8n8Hzxp7N-s9l0NDSGdQZ1U_WndbR2wved9-w42rjn-Qi7DjwH_Br8-r3pg==

Tyrran
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
France777 Posts
March 01 2013 22:14 GMT
#7070
On March 01 2013 18:52 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 18:50 aznball123 wrote:
LOLOL well fuck. I just died lvl 35 haha spent all day training too, well time to make another one. stupid death too. was on general in norm with a party, they were killing it while i agro'd like 5 of the ones on me. I threw up a tp and tried to go in but took too dam long.. I went in and the screen was black, but heard my character die and i was like "nooooooooooooo" then went back to login screen haha well first hc death, very interesting. Starting to like hc now, at first I just wanted to play to make money for default since ratio was like 1:3~4.

If you're ever in danger the only way of INSTANTLY getting safe is ESC -> quit to login screen. Zoning out via TP/WP/Portals can kill you, alt+f4 can take a couple of seconds till you're gone as well.


I think the devs confirmed that logout and alt+F4 take exactly the same time. or did it change recently ?
Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
March 01 2013 22:27 GMT
#7071
On March 02 2013 06:35 AnotherRandom wrote:
I've read that EK is supposed to be really good. How do people normally build an EK character? I've read that they usually link EK with Added Fire Damage and Chain, but what about the character? Do people go for +ele dmg nodes or is the skill damage enough? If you don't really need any +dmg nodes of any kind, I was wondering how a a tanky shield class would work and was considering marauder/templar. I was also wondering if it was plausible to try for a triple charge conduit build, again if EK doesn't need any +dmg from the passive tree.

Also is EK heavily item dependent? If it's not too reliant on gear I'd like to take a stab at my first HC char (also why I was considering build super tanky).


My first real hardcore character was an EK shadow, once you get into late cruel and merciless imo it gets quite item dependent because of your short range. You rely on mana leech way to much to cast spells, and bear traps for any rares(although with EK your bear trap damage is insane because of the nodes + items you get)

You end up running a ton of auras so your mana pool is tiny, which is why mana leech is a must, hatred/determination/wrath/anger/vitality, i think thats all of them.

It is a fun build though.
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Shinbi
Profile Joined December 2009
338 Posts
March 01 2013 23:01 GMT
#7072
On March 02 2013 07:27 LagLovah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 06:35 AnotherRandom wrote:
I've read that EK is supposed to be really good. How do people normally build an EK character? I've read that they usually link EK with Added Fire Damage and Chain, but what about the character? Do people go for +ele dmg nodes or is the skill damage enough? If you don't really need any +dmg nodes of any kind, I was wondering how a a tanky shield class would work and was considering marauder/templar. I was also wondering if it was plausible to try for a triple charge conduit build, again if EK doesn't need any +dmg from the passive tree.

Also is EK heavily item dependent? If it's not too reliant on gear I'd like to take a stab at my first HC char (also why I was considering build super tanky).


My first real hardcore character was an EK shadow, once you get into late cruel and merciless imo it gets quite item dependent because of your short range. You rely on mana leech way to much to cast spells, and bear traps for any rares(although with EK your bear trap damage is insane because of the nodes + items you get)

You end up running a ton of auras so your mana pool is tiny, which is why mana leech is a must, hatred/determination/wrath/anger/vitality, i think thats all of them.

It is a fun build though.


I didn't find mana leech that necessary - but then again, I was only running EK-Added Fire-Life Leech-Faster Projectiles (no chain), and was still one/two shotting things, so with the 5 auras running+high mana regen, I didn't feel the need to have mana leech. I didn't think it was too item dependent either, even in later levels, unless I got lucky with my gear. Physical reflects mobs were easy, resists were 75, and hp was around 3.8k or so (which I know is low at this level, but I was still progressing just fine solo) at level 78 and I didn't feel in danger of anything unless my PC crashes (which ended up killing me) or charges.
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 23:20:06
March 01 2013 23:05 GMT
#7073
On March 02 2013 08:01 Shinbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 07:27 LagLovah wrote:
On March 02 2013 06:35 AnotherRandom wrote:
I've read that EK is supposed to be really good. How do people normally build an EK character? I've read that they usually link EK with Added Fire Damage and Chain, but what about the character? Do people go for +ele dmg nodes or is the skill damage enough? If you don't really need any +dmg nodes of any kind, I was wondering how a a tanky shield class would work and was considering marauder/templar. I was also wondering if it was plausible to try for a triple charge conduit build, again if EK doesn't need any +dmg from the passive tree.

Also is EK heavily item dependent? If it's not too reliant on gear I'd like to take a stab at my first HC char (also why I was considering build super tanky).


My first real hardcore character was an EK shadow, once you get into late cruel and merciless imo it gets quite item dependent because of your short range. You rely on mana leech way to much to cast spells, and bear traps for any rares(although with EK your bear trap damage is insane because of the nodes + items you get)

You end up running a ton of auras so your mana pool is tiny, which is why mana leech is a must, hatred/determination/wrath/anger/vitality, i think thats all of them.

It is a fun build though.


I didn't find mana leech that necessary - but then again, I was only running EK-Added Fire-Life Leech-Faster Projectiles (no chain), and was still one/two shotting things, so with the 5 auras running+high mana regen, I didn't feel the need to have mana leech. I didn't think it was too item dependent either, even in later levels, unless I got lucky with my gear. Physical reflects mobs were easy, resists were 75, and hp was around 3.8k or so (which I know is low at this level, but I was still progressing just fine solo) at level 78 and I didn't feel in danger of anything unless my PC crashes (which ended up killing me) or charges.


Reflect phys damage gets reduced by armor so I supose you had a pretty high armor value.
One of the most important things about HC EK is the overkill on mobs and the reflect damage you will get from it.
So be sure to run with enough armor so you don't end up killing yourself
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
March 02 2013 00:43 GMT
#7074
On March 02 2013 03:54 crms wrote:
hey i have a mechanics question.

how much EHP do you gain going from 75% all resist to 80% (with the talent)? I've been debating this skill node but I'm not sure it's worth it.


of course it's worth it if you are near the node and can spare going there
but then you also will have to have required gear to actually get use from the node
eluv
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
March 02 2013 01:04 GMT
#7075
On March 02 2013 09:43 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2013 03:54 crms wrote:
hey i have a mechanics question.

how much EHP do you gain going from 75% all resist to 80% (with the talent)? I've been debating this skill node but I'm not sure it's worth it.


of course it's worth it if you are near the node and can spare going there
but then you also will have to have required gear to actually get use from the node


To put it in perspective, assuming you can use all 5%, it's the same % EHP gain as going from 0 to 20 resist, or on the other end of scale, going from 60 to 68, or just under 69 to 75. As an aside, that shows just how insane the accelerating returns on EHP from resists are.
"Yes I fucked my way to the GSL partnership" - Sundance
whoso
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany523 Posts
March 02 2013 01:30 GMT
#7076
ha +114 astramentis. am i rich now or what : )
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 01:48:56
March 02 2013 01:35 GMT
#7077
Rarity: Rare
Brood Suit
Sentinel Jacket
+ Show Spoiler +
Evasion Rating: 334 (augmented)
Energy Shield: 131 (augmented)
--------
Requirements:
Level: 59
Dex: 86
Int: 86 (unmet)
--------
+15 to Intelligence
42% increased Evasion and Energy Shield
+17 to maximum Mana
+23 to maximum Energy Shield
+35% to Fire Resistance
+41% to Cold Resistance
14% increased Block and Stun Recovery


This sucker worth anything? One green one blue socket, itemlevel 61. SC.
Varanice
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1517 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 01:45:49
March 02 2013 01:41 GMT
#7078
On March 02 2013 10:30 whoso wrote:
ha +114 astramentis. am i rich now or what : )

What do you want for it?
Edit: Is anyone doing maps right now? Im a level 68 Ranger on SC, but I have no one to play with, and Docks runs are getting really old and inefficient.
www.twitch.tv/varanice
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 02:07:28
March 02 2013 01:44 GMT
#7079
On February 28 2013 23:09 bluQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 15:56 Pufftrees wrote:
I was doing maps last night and found a Vaal Regalia 1 white link chest on the ground that I just decided was going to be my "project piece'. I already have a decent 5L ES chest but I really want a 6L and I enjoy the gambling aspect so I would toss some orbs on it each night and see what happens.. no big deal. Last night I started out by rolling some jewelers orbs on it.. took me about 20 and then i got 6 blue socket... ok thats a start.. but now the hard part -> 5 or 6 Link.

I spent about 20 fusing last night trying to link it and afterwards, of course, felt like shit. But thats how it rolls, and thats only 3gcp worth or so. Either way I told myself.. fuck this project piece lol. My homeys were like yea.. just get a 75 and roll that.

SO tonight I'm sitting in town selling and stuff and see the chest in the bank, I had already kinda forgot about it because I told myself too lol (and the trees dont help). I had about 4 fusing that I picked up throughout the past clump of maps so I said fuck it.. go for it. On the very last one I got 5 link... woot!

Okay, time to roll it up rare. My first go with the alchemy orb is pure shit. Then I roll a pretty nice chest, around 300 ES. Not bad.. my current has 200. Then I roll again and BAAAAM

DAT ES CHEST

Started the day with 4k es, and end with 6

Gogo exault naow!!!


Haha yea, I was feeling on a roll again last night. I did a few maps then realized I wasn't capped on Light Resist what the hell. I forgot that my old chest has LR on it... faaaak. Going to have to play around with rings because I recently changed to at least 1 mana ring (around +100) so I could have my auras up and still cast a heavily modified spell totem (then I could pot or regen and spam arc).

I go back to town to figure out my resist situation, especially since my archer homey wanted to run a yellow 71 map. While doing this I think.. well fuck it. I probably won't replace this chest, time to exalt this bad boy. First exalt ever used actually.

Result?

+ Show Spoiler +
Rolled 35 lightning resist lol


Edit: Going to be streaming a bit tonight. I don't have a lot of friends on atm so probably just soloing some maps, or trading, or using orbs etc. My build is based around a spell totem to perma freeze them and my lightning to melt them Message Krystyliz in game for anythign u need or join my maps!

Puff's Stream
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
March 02 2013 02:22 GMT
#7080
On March 02 2013 03:19 Otolia wrote:
I just lost a brand new witch to a stupid disconnection. That has to be the most fucking retarded feature in the game ... You can cheat the system by alt+f4'ing but when you have a legitimate disconnection you just have to pray you character doesn't die until the backend server finally realizes you are completely oos. This is so infuriating ...

That's just how networking works. If you send the command to quit, the server will respond to that immediately. When you dc, the server waits for a response from your computer, which never comes since you're dc'd. So your character stands there during until the connection times out. There's really not much that can be done about this lol.
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