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aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
March 01 2013 09:50 GMT
#7041
LOLOL well fuck. I just died lvl 35 haha spent all day training too, well time to make another one. stupid death too. was on general in norm with a party, they were killing it while i agro'd like 5 of the ones on me. I threw up a tp and tried to go in but took too dam long.. I went in and the screen was black, but heard my character die and i was like "nooooooooooooo" then went back to login screen haha well first hc death, very interesting. Starting to like hc now, at first I just wanted to play to make money for default since ratio was like 1:3~4.
Mmm, what to watch.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
March 01 2013 09:52 GMT
#7042
On March 01 2013 18:50 aznball123 wrote:
LOLOL well fuck. I just died lvl 35 haha spent all day training too, well time to make another one. stupid death too. was on general in norm with a party, they were killing it while i agro'd like 5 of the ones on me. I threw up a tp and tried to go in but took too dam long.. I went in and the screen was black, but heard my character die and i was like "nooooooooooooo" then went back to login screen haha well first hc death, very interesting. Starting to like hc now, at first I just wanted to play to make money for default since ratio was like 1:3~4.

If you're ever in danger the only way of INSTANTLY getting safe is ESC -> quit to login screen. Zoning out via TP/WP/Portals can kill you, alt+f4 can take a couple of seconds till you're gone as well.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
March 01 2013 11:13 GMT
#7043
Just started maps, I keep finding 68 maps and no 66 ones, dunno how the difficulty scales, is it reasonably equivalent?
rSLagLovah on NA xSixLagLovah on Kr
Hoosegow
Profile Joined August 2010
United States139 Posts
March 01 2013 11:13 GMT
#7044
So I generally don't play the trading game much in ARPGs and MMOs. I really have no clue about trading effectively in this game, but I feel like this has to be worth at least something. Help me not get ripped off please :D

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LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 12:58:27
March 01 2013 12:58 GMT
#7045
Tried the wussiest 68 map I had ... like elemental equilibrium/ monster variety. I actually dont even know what equilibrium does, anyways the spider flicker boss hits pretty hard, I really need to up my armor haha. Fun anyways, almost died like 3x, stupid undead charge rhoas hurt
rSLagLovah on NA xSixLagLovah on Kr
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
March 01 2013 13:02 GMT
#7046
On March 01 2013 20:13 Hoosegow wrote:
So I generally don't play the trading game much in ARPGs and MMOs. I really have no clue about trading effectively in this game, but I feel like this has to be worth at least something. Help me not get ripped off please :D

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I feel like it'd at least be an exalt for the 6L but I'm not sure about staves because most people go for the wand/shield combo for the defensive options unless its a pretty special staff like the Searing Touch.
electrondude
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany27 Posts
March 01 2013 13:18 GMT
#7047
Just post that staff in the trade forums that way you should get a decent overview what people are willing to pay , but i´m guessing it wont be much . As Ruskipanda said most player dont use 2-hand in general but i would hold on to it at least for a couple of days after the upcoming melee changes . At last you should know that it being a rare item decreases its value also you post it with the itemlevel since people will reroll it .
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
March 01 2013 13:22 GMT
#7048
On March 01 2013 20:13 Hoosegow wrote:
So I generally don't play the trading game much in ARPGs and MMOs. I really have no clue about trading effectively in this game, but I feel like this has to be worth at least something. Help me not get ripped off please :D

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depends on the item lvl

should get 1-2 exalts depends how many ppl want(demand)
yo
Hoosegow
Profile Joined August 2010
United States139 Posts
March 01 2013 15:53 GMT
#7049
Thanks for the quick responses. I'll probably just hang on to it for a little bit, it's only ilevel 53 so it's sole value is the 6L.
AnotherRandom
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada81 Posts
March 01 2013 16:00 GMT
#7050
I think perma temporal chains on maps is the most unfun thing in the entire game.
Teamliquid is one of the dumbest gaming communities on the internet.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
March 01 2013 16:12 GMT
#7051
can anyone make a rough list of how trades work? like, "its worth an exalt" doesnt help a lot, just like "its worth an IST-rune" doesnt help u in diablo 2 when ur quite the noob :D

like, is there something comparable to a rune-list?
also - i wanna know the reason why exalt-orb is worth as much as it is - it was pretty obvious in diablo 2 - runes are good for powerful runewords, and rarer runes usually lead to more powerful items / they simply are rarer :D
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
March 01 2013 16:17 GMT
#7052
Kal: http://poespreadsheet.blogspot.de/ does pretty okay. Especially combined with: http://poe.xyz.is/ for trickier cases.

As to for why it's worth that much...? You can take a white item with great sockets/links, transmute it to magic, use alterations till you get a good roll, Regal it to get it to rare (+2 properties) and if your stats on the item are STILL good you can use exalt to add +2 properties once more. It's the only way to craft the very best items pretty much.


On another note, merciless is where this game starts to get interesting. Everything is scary, people are friendly and pub parties get rare. I'm scared of Merveil despite 79% cold res. o.o
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 16:28:04
March 01 2013 16:20 GMT
#7053
On March 02 2013 01:12 KalWarkov wrote:
can anyone make a rough list of how trades work? like, "its worth an exalt" doesnt help a lot, just like "its worth an IST-rune" doesnt help u in diablo 2 when ur quite the noob :D

like, is there something comparable to a rune-list?
also - i wanna know the reason why exalt-orb is worth as much as it is - it was pretty obvious in diablo 2 - runes are good for
powerful runewords, and rarer runes usually lead to more powerful items / they simply are rarer :D


For whatever reason, http://www.poeex.info/ is the standard for currency exchange. Exalt/Divine/Regal values are not so concrete. However, if you ask for some exchange rate on global trade chat which
deviates from these rates you will know it immediately (you will be flooded with people thinking they are 'ripping you off'
or you will be yelled at by people thinking you are trying to rip other people off).

Exalted orbs are very uncommon, and useful because if you have a good rare with less than 6 properties
which dropped/you've rolled using more common currencies (chaos/alch/regal) then you can make it strictly better
than it was.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-01 16:26:22
March 01 2013 16:22 GMT
#7054
On March 02 2013 01:12 KalWarkov wrote:
can anyone make a rough list of how trades work? like, "its worth an exalt" doesnt help a lot, just like "its worth an IST-rune" doesnt help u in diablo 2 when ur quite the noob :D

like, is there something comparable to a rune-list?
also - i wanna know the reason why exalt-orb is worth as much as it is - it was pretty obvious in diablo 2 - runes are good for powerful runewords, and rarer runes usually lead to more powerful items / they simply are rarer :D

Some orbs are purchasable from vendors. This means they have a "set" value, and are more or less stable in value.
http://en.pathofexilewiki.com/wiki/Vendor_Recipes#Direct_Purchases_from_Vendor

Orb rarity also plays a large role. Some orbs - a chaos, for instance - drop less than transmutation orbs. So naturally, they have a higher value. Finally, the use of orbs (and consequently, the demand for the orb) vary in utility. An exalted allows you to add a new property to a rare item, which is insanely useful. Thus, it has a high inherent cost.

There are sites like poeex that attempt to quantify orb values, but you should use it only as a guideline. It's important to remember that the trading system is entirely barter-based, so nothing has a truly concrete value.

Edit: Kripparian has a video on quality gem value somewhere on his youtube channel if you want to look into that as well.
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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
March 01 2013 16:29 GMT
#7055
On March 02 2013 01:17 r.Evo wrote:
On another note, merciless is where this game starts to get interesting. Everything is scary, people are friendly and pub parties get rare. I'm scared of Merveil despite 79% cold res. o.o

disclaimer: sc scrub

Honestly meervil is in my opinion the easiest of the Act Bosses (piety and vaal hard AF). As long as you have a build with some sort of leech in it, you can just come up to melee/mid range and avoid her ice crits. Ohter than explosion spawns nothing else is super threatening
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
March 01 2013 16:30 GMT
#7056
in fact I would rate most unique mobs harder than her (chatters, falsegod totem, perpetus, etc)
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
March 01 2013 17:02 GMT
#7057
thanks a lot!
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
March 01 2013 17:05 GMT
#7058
On March 02 2013 01:17 r.Evo wrote:
Kal: http://poespreadsheet.blogspot.de/ does pretty okay. Especially combined with: http://poe.xyz.is/ for trickier cases.

As to for why it's worth that much...? You can take a white item with great sockets/links, transmute it to magic, use alterations till you get a good roll, Regal it to get it to rare (+2 properties) and if your stats on the item are STILL good you can use exalt to add +2 properties once more. It's the only way to craft the very best items pretty much.


On another note, merciless is where this game starts to get interesting. Everything is scary, people are friendly and pub parties get rare. I'm scared of Merveil despite 79% cold res. o.o


What? I had 6% cold resistance at HC merciless Merveil and barely took any damage (2600 hp).....
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
March 01 2013 17:44 GMT
#7059
Merveil felt like a cakewalk for my LA bowranger, except for running into a couple exploding larvae.
Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
March 01 2013 17:57 GMT
#7060
On March 01 2013 18:13 udgnim wrote:
I think I'm going to screw around with a HC Arctic Breath build and combo it with Temporal Chains to slow the hell out of monsters

here's the opener I got to get to Eldritch Battery starting from Marauder

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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEBBAcRLRkuGYUaOBpsHwIkqiftKU8tHzbpTLNQUFRJWGNZ818_bRl8g4Ieg_eMz5BVna6nCKeErKq4k7ndwBrB88bYzfrUj9rd2wvjauQi51LsOO8O8i_2SA==


more filled out build with 21 points to spare. I'm not sure if I really want to go dual totem or to even put Arctic Breath on totem right now due to mana costs.

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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEBBAcEsxEtFE0UsBZvF1QZLhmFGjgabBzcHwIigSQ8JKomlSepJ-0pTyynLR8tRzbpOjBG10lRTLNQQlBQVElVS1XGWGNZ81orWm1dxl8_YG1irG0ZbXt8g35Zf8aCHoKbgziD94uMjDaMz448j0aQVZuhnYCdrp6hoW2iAKKjo_KnCKdcp4SsmKyqr5u1BLiTud28n8AawfPG2M36z2XQ0NQZ1I_Wndrd2wvd8-Fz42rjn-Qi51LsOO0g7w7vfPAf8i_2SPfX


I think links would be LMP + Arctic Breath + Pierce + Faster Casting right now but it would depend on mana regen or I just link them with Spell Totem and find out whether the monsters or totem dies first


Keep us up to date with how it works out if you are going to try it. I've been curious about Arctic breath builds ever since I read the description of the spell animation. Firing out ice skulls sounds baller.
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