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Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 17:15:45
February 28 2013 17:03 GMT
#7001
On March 01 2013 01:47 LagLovah wrote:
is it worth regaling this ?
Rarity: Magic
Indomitable Onyx Amulet of the Marksman
--------
Requirements:
Level: 56
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+20 to all Attributes
--------
+196 to Accuracy Rating
19% increased maximum Energy Shield


Or should I just reroll it, ive heard that accuracy is important to witches, and 19% max ES is a decent roll...


Accuracy is only important if you don't get resolute technique. Is this on HC or SC? Imo it seems most of the top specs on HC either use spells(which don't care about accuracy) or they get resolute technique(ie Lightning Arrow). If it's on softcore than I have no clue it's worth because there are all sorts of crazy specs.
"Daaayyyy9, King Pussyfoot of NinnyVille"- Day9 while playing Amnesia
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
February 28 2013 17:19 GMT
#7002
Hardcore, wanders use accuracy, afaik thats the most common build that requires it. And bow shadows I guess since its so far to get resolute from where they start, but I dno why you would go CI on a bow shadow so ya..
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Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
February 28 2013 18:28 GMT
#7003
Can someone explain this to me? I don't understand flipping a bunch of in-game currency + a Kaom's for multiple race prizes.

Unless this guy somehow thinks or has some insider's information on upcoming currency changes and/or is banking on race prizes appreciating massively over time, I don't understand the motivation behind this. Is there some d2jsp shenanigans that I'm not aware of? Are demigods even worth anything to most people?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 18:32:21
February 28 2013 18:32 GMT
#7004
On March 01 2013 03:28 Qaatar wrote:
Can someone explain this to me? I don't understand flipping a bunch of in-game currency + a Kaom's for multiple race prizes.

Unless this guy somehow thinks or has some insider's information on upcoming currency changes and/or is banking on race prizes appreciating massively over time, I don't understand the motivation behind this. Is there some d2jsp shenanigans that I'm not aware of? Are demigods even worth anything to most people?


His intentions are written in the fifth post.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 18:52:26
February 28 2013 18:49 GMT
#7005
On March 01 2013 03:32 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 03:28 Qaatar wrote:
Can someone explain this to me? I don't understand flipping a bunch of in-game currency + a Kaom's for multiple race prizes.

Unless this guy somehow thinks or has some insider's information on upcoming currency changes and/or is banking on race prizes appreciating massively over time, I don't understand the motivation behind this. Is there some d2jsp shenanigans that I'm not aware of? Are demigods even worth anything to most people?


His intentions are written in the fifth post.


Again, unless race prizes appreciate over time, I don't feel like this is very smart at all. Are race prizes worth anything to most people? I don't understand selling in-game currency at all, and I'm pretty sure Kaom's, even after 6 months, is still probably the best chest in HC for quite a few builds.

Edit: what I mean is, very rarely do I see sellers of high end items accepting race prizes, if at all. Unless this guy has some insider's information that the situation will be different in 6 months, where he will be able to buy a bunch of high end stuff with his stash of prizes, I don't understand it.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
February 28 2013 18:59 GMT
#7006
On March 01 2013 03:49 Qaatar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 03:32 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On March 01 2013 03:28 Qaatar wrote:
Can someone explain this to me? I don't understand flipping a bunch of in-game currency + a Kaom's for multiple race prizes.

Unless this guy somehow thinks or has some insider's information on upcoming currency changes and/or is banking on race prizes appreciating massively over time, I don't understand the motivation behind this. Is there some d2jsp shenanigans that I'm not aware of? Are demigods even worth anything to most people?


His intentions are written in the fifth post.


Again, unless race prizes appreciate over time, I don't feel like this is very smart at all. Are race prizes worth anything to most people? I don't understand selling in-game currency at all, and I'm pretty sure Kaom's, even after 6 months, is still probably the best chest in HC for quite a few builds.

Edit: what I mean is, very rarely do I see sellers of high end items accepting race prizes, if at all. Unless this guy has some insider's information that the situation will be different in 6 months, where he will be able to buy a bunch of high end stuff with his stash of prizes, I don't understand it.


Well the top bid is currently in demigod presence which will surely only increase in value over time. Even if you don't believe they'll increase in value then they'll at least maintain their current value which makes them a good item to hold your money in. You'll also notice that there are no exalted orbs listed in his post. These will almost surely increase in price to where they were in closed beta as well.

The more of an item there are the less it will cost in the future. In six months there is no way in hell Kaom's Heart is still gonna be selling for several tens of exalted orbs. I'm not saying you'll be able to pick one up for a GCP or something, but it will almost certainly be worth substantially less in six months. How much less is anyones guess, but you can be fairly certain that it along with most other unique items will depreciate in value as the league continues to go on.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
February 28 2013 19:10 GMT
#7007
What you say may be true in Default, but still true in HC? People are constantly dying. If this is in Default, I wouldn't question it one bit...but in HC? I'm not so sure. In addition, he's not selling Kaom's for exalts...but for race currency. If in 6 months, he needs a Kaom's again...will he be able to get one through race currency? I'm not so sure.

Again, if he wasn't selling his currency, I would understand this...but I'm just not understanding it at all in the current format. The whole situation seems like a large gamble on rather unsubstantial reasoning.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
February 28 2013 19:16 GMT
#7008
Not so much gamble so much as he's bored of the game, and if he does come back he wants to start (mostly) over... oO
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 19:35:59
February 28 2013 19:22 GMT
#7009
On March 01 2013 04:10 Qaatar wrote:
What you say may be true in Default, but still true in HC? People are constantly dying. If this is in Default, I wouldn't question it one bit...but in HC? I'm not so sure. In addition, he's not selling Kaom's for exalts...but for race currency. If in 6 months, he needs a Kaom's again...will he be able to get one through race currency? I'm not so sure.

Again, if he wasn't selling his currency, I would understand this...but I'm just not understanding it at all in the current format. The whole situation seems like a large gamble on rather unsubstantial reasoning.


It is a gamble, but unsubstantial reasoning is certainly not the case. If you don't understand why an item that can no longer be obtained has value then I really don't know what to tell you besides they do and will almost certainly increase in value over time. The time part is the real problem in this situation as I don't think six months is long enough, but it is all speculation. If you want a random reference, a demigod's was sold for over a hundred GCP last I saw and the current offer for his gear is four.

As for kaoms disappearing from HC, yes. However, there will also be more kaoms put into the market because people will still get them as drops. At some point people will be farming more kaoms than are disappearing from hardcore or they are so cheap that people don't care if they lose them which will cause them to decrease in price.

If you're wearing gear you can't afford to lose you don't do unsafe things where there is even a chance you might die.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
February 28 2013 19:33 GMT
#7010
On March 01 2013 04:22 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 04:10 Qaatar wrote:
What you say may be true in Default, but still true in HC? People are constantly dying. If this is in Default, I wouldn't question it one bit...but in HC? I'm not so sure. In addition, he's not selling Kaom's for exalts...but for race currency. If in 6 months, he needs a Kaom's again...will he be able to get one through race currency? I'm not so sure.

Again, if he wasn't selling his currency, I would understand this...but I'm just not understanding it at all in the current format. The whole situation seems like a large gamble on rather unsubstantial reasoning.


If you want a random reference, a demigod's was sold for over a hundred exalted orbs last I saw and the current offer for his gear is four.


If people are actually paying this much for demi's, then what this guy is doing makes sense. I've just never seen anyone buy demi's for that amount. I guess some people see exalts as just static currency that's extremely rare, and not actually useful (which would essentially make it a less rare demi). However, if in the future, more and more people start actually using their exalts, gcp's, divines, etc...the worth of a demi should go down substantially in the value of those currencies.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
February 28 2013 19:33 GMT
#7011
His whole reasoning relies on the fact that Demigod's will not be offered as prizes or just drop in the future. Given that this guy is a forum moderator, I'll say this reeks of insider trading. Wouldn't be too much surprising, GGG is a rather new and familial business.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 19:40:58
February 28 2013 19:35 GMT
#7012
Sorry that should have been GCP not exalts. Still a ton of currency, but not quite as much ^_^

On March 01 2013 04:33 Otolia wrote:
His whole reasoning relies on the fact that Demigod's will not be offered as prizes or just drop in the future. Given that this guy is a forum moderator, I'll say this reeks of insider trading. Wouldn't be too much surprising, GGG is a rather new and familial business.


GGG stated explicitly that demigod's presence would no longer be given out after closed beta. That is public information, not insider trading.


This is the last race event of the Closed Beta. It will be the last time that Demigod's Presences can ever be won. There are no currency item prizes for this event due to the upcoming wipe on the 23rd. Demigod's Presences and microtransaction credit do survive the wipe.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
February 28 2013 19:42 GMT
#7013
On March 01 2013 04:35 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Sorry that should have been GCP not exalts. Still a ton of currency, but not quite as much ^_^

Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 04:33 Otolia wrote:
His whole reasoning relies on the fact that Demigod's will not be offered as prizes or just drop in the future. Given that this guy is a forum moderator, I'll say this reeks of insider trading. Wouldn't be too much surprising, GGG is a rather new and familial business.


GGG stated explicitly that demigod's presence would no longer be given out after closed beta. That is public information, not insider trading.

In this case, it's less risky (and fishy) but I just checked what people asked for Demigod's Triumph on the trading forum and nobody ever sold one clearly and people aren't even keen on selling them. I doubt it would sell for more than 5 exalted.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 19:45:12
February 28 2013 19:44 GMT
#7014
On March 01 2013 04:42 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 04:35 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Sorry that should have been GCP not exalts. Still a ton of currency, but not quite as much ^_^

On March 01 2013 04:33 Otolia wrote:
His whole reasoning relies on the fact that Demigod's will not be offered as prizes or just drop in the future. Given that this guy is a forum moderator, I'll say this reeks of insider trading. Wouldn't be too much surprising, GGG is a rather new and familial business.


GGG stated explicitly that demigod's presence would no longer be given out after closed beta. That is public information, not insider trading.

In this case, it's less risky (and fishy) but I just checked what people asked for Demigod's Triumph on the trading forum and nobody ever sold one clearly and people aren't even keen on selling them. I doubt it would sell for more than 5 exalted.


The offer is four of the amulets, not the new helmets. You'll note that the helmets are still obtainable and have not even been discontinued so they are uncomparable.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
February 28 2013 19:45 GMT
#7015
On March 01 2013 04:44 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 04:42 Otolia wrote:
On March 01 2013 04:35 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Sorry that should have been GCP not exalts. Still a ton of currency, but not quite as much ^_^

On March 01 2013 04:33 Otolia wrote:
His whole reasoning relies on the fact that Demigod's will not be offered as prizes or just drop in the future. Given that this guy is a forum moderator, I'll say this reeks of insider trading. Wouldn't be too much surprising, GGG is a rather new and familial business.


GGG stated explicitly that demigod's presence would no longer be given out after closed beta. That is public information, not insider trading.

In this case, it's less risky (and fishy) but I just checked what people asked for Demigod's Triumph on the trading forum and nobody ever sold one clearly and people aren't even keen on selling them. I doubt it would sell for more than 5 exalted.


The offer is four of the amulets, not the new helmets.

And all is clear now. :D
TuckFexas
Profile Joined July 2011
United States154 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 21:20:22
February 28 2013 20:58 GMT
#7016
Rarity: Rare
Fate Barb
Omen Wand
--------
Requirements:
Level: 52 Int: 200
--------
16% Spell Damage
--------
91% Spell Damage
22% Cold Damage
1% physical attack damage converted to mana
+20 Max mana


how much is this baby worth?

EDIT: softcore
Texas is to f*cking hot.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
February 28 2013 23:02 GMT
#7017
On March 01 2013 01:24 Pwere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 21:03 EchelonTee wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/qMYVwPq.png

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu died with 1.5 mins remaining, I was top 10 marauder at least (

my gear was horrendous though so it should've been to be expected
It's not worth it to go western if you can't make 18 (so merveil kill ~45 mins). There is an XP penalty below level 17 in western because it's a level 21 zone, and you waste time getting there. You increase your risk of dying for little reward, unless you have amazing gear (40%+ fire resist, large flasks and good lvl 14+ weapon).

Good luck !

@Obstikal , isn't it 52% armor in the duelist tree? And +armor is better than +evasion, because it will also scale granite flasks, and your occasional AR gear.

xp penalty bumps up to 5 radius at lvl 16. Formula is +/- 4 levels +1 per 16 levels.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
February 28 2013 23:08 GMT
#7018
As I go careening down toward Heart of the Gladiator with my build, people ask...

Why didn't you make a templar?

:'(
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
February 28 2013 23:25 GMT
#7019
Only took like 15 jewelers to get 6 sockets on my imba bow hell yea, now I just gotta 6 link it :'(
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
February 28 2013 23:53 GMT
#7020
On March 01 2013 08:08 Southlight wrote:
As I go careening down toward Heart of the Gladiator with my build, people ask...

Why didn't you make a templar?

:'(

I can't stand playing templar because I really don't want to play as a crazy old man in a toga. I usually just play marauder instead
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
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