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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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Kira__
Sweden2672 Posts
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Stimp
South Africa780 Posts
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snarl
Canada812 Posts
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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epik151
312 Posts
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Stimp
South Africa780 Posts
On May 11 2011 21:35 epik151 wrote: United will be champions. of England. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On May 09 2011 11:15 Airship wrote: Worrying? It only proves that the possession statistic is meaningless. No it doesn't. It only proves that teams can't always capitalize on possession advantage. It's still an advantage, though. Pretty significant one too, especially at 10% difference or higher. | ||
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funkie
Venezuela9376 Posts
On May 10 2011 08:21 Waund wrote: Some people in this thread really don't seem to know much about football. You can't really compare Barca and Man Utd's defensive records. La Liga is essentially a joke league, doesn't come close to the PL in terms of competition or quality. Barca > Real > everyone else. Premier League will have as many as 6 teams vying for the top spot next season, and as many as 8 vying for 4th place. Never gonna give you up? never gonna let you down? | ||
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Drteeth
Great Britain415 Posts
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MasterKush
United Kingdom568 Posts
I expect 3-0, Barcelona beating Manchester United. No offense but only premier league team who can play football is Arsenal, with Liverpool coming back. Man U and Chelsea were always overrated. Obvious troll is obvious. | ||
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Enchanted
United States1609 Posts
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iLuminar
United Kingdom42 Posts
On May 11 2011 19:15 Sated wrote: Hernandez is a poacher and Messi isn't even a striker. How can you compare them? Stupid Pele. We shouldn't focus too much on Messi anyway. Xavi and Iniesta make Messi look a lot better than he is. Messi is an amazing player, obviously, but you only have to compare performances for Argentina and Barcelona to see that it is his team-mates who should get the real plaudits. The Barca system is centered around Messi, and he's been playing in it since he was 12? Thats why hes so amazing in it. Argentina don't know how to use him properly, because international football is essentially stars thrown in together with very little experience together, except in cases like Spain. So isn't it obvious Messi will excel alongside guys he grew up with rather than strangers to him like Pablo Mouche in the Argentina squad? Xavi and Iniesta obv make anyone better, but do you know Alves assists Messi more than those two do? Xavi has also said a few times in interviews that Messi revitalised his career because now Xavi always has an escape pass, he can always rely on Messi to create extra space because of how much attention he commands, and he knows Messi will always take a pass no matter how well marked. Messi es increible y dios del futbol. Fergie is really showing his skill in the build up to this though, once again he has Man Utd looking their freshest at the right time. He shows even with one of the poorest Utd teams hes ever had in EPL era he can still win. Barca are certainly the more jaded squad after 4 games vs RM, but now with La Liga wrapped up, they can just rest until 28th May. If Man Utd manage to pull off a win vs Barca, then this will be Fergie's masterpiece season without question for me. | ||
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urijjka
78 Posts
Manchester United don't have a particularly unique squad this season but they show good chemistry and consistency while Barcelona look untouchable in most of their games. My prediction: Manchester United 3 (Hernandez 4', Rooney 33', Vidic 78') Barcelona 2 (Messi 17', 24') | ||
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pyro19
6575 Posts
On May 12 2011 09:41 iLuminar wrote: The Barca system is centered around Messi, and he's been playing in it since he was 12? Thats why hes so amazing in it. Argentina don't know how to use him properly, because international football is essentially stars thrown in together with very little experience together, except in cases like Spain. So isn't it obvious Messi will excel alongside guys he grew up with rather than strangers to him like Pablo Mouche in the Argentina squad? Xavi and Iniesta obv make anyone better, but do you know Alves assists Messi more than those two do? Xavi has also said a few times in interviews that Messi revitalised his career because now Xavi always has an escape pass, he can always rely on Messi to create extra space because of how much attention he commands, and he knows Messi will always take a pass no matter how well marked. Messi es increible y dios del futbol. Fergie is really showing his skill in the build up to this though, once again he has Man Utd looking their freshest at the right time. He shows even with one of the poorest Utd teams hes ever had in EPL era he can still win. Barca are certainly the more jaded squad after 4 games vs RM, but now with La Liga wrapped up, they can just rest until 28th May. If Man Utd manage to pull off a win vs Barca, then this will be Fergie's masterpiece season without question for me. That"s where your Argument falls apart .Xavi and iniesta are AMAZING players , they carried there 60-70% possesion from their barca game into their Spanish national team.You could put those guys into Argentina and they would have atleast made the Finals even without Messi..Spain had absolutely horrible Striker , Fernando Torres who was expected to perform. Plus , it"s not that Messi is bad , he"s undoubtedly the best in the World , but the real Reason he"s so Dominating is because Xavi and Iniesta are always there to control the game.. He"s a very very prolific goal scorer though.. | ||
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yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
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imperator-xy
Germany1377 Posts
i would edit the possible squads in the op though as giggs doesnt play LM anymore. hes a DM/ZM player now | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On May 14 2011 18:32 imperator-xy wrote: gogo barcelona do it for football Barca is by far the most unfair team at the top-level, if they win football is going to lose. Aside from their skills Barca stands for everything that is wrong with the game at the moment. I don't know who I want to win...I don't want Barca to win because of the reason mentioned above, and I just can't cheer for ManUnited because they are responsible for the most depressing event I witnessed in sports history. Can't they both lose? @ Pyro Villa scored 5 goals at the WC, imo that does not qualify as horrible. Only his bitchslap does :p | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
On May 14 2011 17:10 pyro19 wrote: That"s where your Argument falls apart .Xavi and iniesta are AMAZING players , they carried there 60-70% possesion from their barca game into their Spanish national team.You could put those guys into Argentina and they would have atleast made the Finals even without Messi..Spain had absolutely horrible Striker , Fernando Torres who was expected to perform. Plus , it"s not that Messi is bad , he"s undoubtedly the best in the World , but the real Reason he"s so Dominating is because Xavi and Iniesta are always there to control the game.. He"s a very very prolific goal scorer though.. Well obviously the whole team are amazing players. It's kinda stupid to take out a few if you talk about barcelona. Messi is THAT good, that's why a team like barca centered their play around him, it's still stupid to deny the influence of Iniesta or Xavi, but nobody is really doing that even when they say how amazing Messi is. The post of iLuminare was just saying that Messi is not overrated, he never took away from Xavi or Iniesta. Besides it's not only these two + Messi that makes Barcas play so strong but the whole team. It starts with puyol and pique in the defense and goes throw the whole team. That's also why Spain is so good. Not only because they have Xavi and Iniesta but the whole team backs them up and make their absolute amazing play possible. | ||
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Enchanted
United States1609 Posts
A quick search on youtube. Really Uefa? Now it's just getting embarrassing. | ||
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