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Pads
England3228 Posts
there is home and away legs, which is to a certain extent the same thing. | ||
Kiles
Spain8 Posts
http://www.cope.es/tiempo-de-juego/audio-gol-de-messi--barcelona-2--manchester-1-115248 http://www.cope.es/tiempo-de-juego/audio-gol-de-villa--barcelona-3--manchester-1-115249 Enjoy it!! | ||
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
On May 29 2011 06:28 mjxn wrote: That's a bit of a stretch. Nowhere near Maradona as of yet. Has the potential though  i got to say, its not really that much of a stretch if he keeps on playing like he does now. He is only 23 years old...... and already such a legend. Pele, Maradona, Cruijff, Platini to be honest something must go terrible wrong or Messi is bound to end up in that list (maybe even argue that he's already amongst those already ) | ||
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Bombmk
Denmark95 Posts
On May 29 2011 06:46 TheSubtleArt wrote: I felt Vidic and Ferdinand also did a great job on defense, but Man U's midfield got pretty outclassed so it was only a matter of time before Barca scored. Also Valencia had a rough game >_<. Both Valencia and Park spent way to much energy on defensive work, because both Giggs and especially Carrick through having lost all ability to mark their players, forced to them to fall back and in. Same thing that happened two years ago when Anderson fell out of the game after 5 mins. Leaving constant and massive passing opportunities on the midfield. You can't afford that kind of thing against Xavi and Iniesta. | ||
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Kiles
Spain8 Posts
On May 29 2011 06:58 Mithriel wrote: i got to say, its not really that much of a stretch if he keeps on playing like he does now. He is only 23 years old...... and already such a legend. Pele, Maradona, Cruijff, Platini to be honest something must go terrible wrong or Messi is bound to end up in that list (maybe even argue that he's already amongst those already ) I love football, i've been see football since i borned, i saw a lot of videos of maradona, etc... and i have to say that Messi is the greatest player i ever seen. | ||
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
On May 29 2011 07:01 Kiles wrote: I love football, i've been see football since i borned, i saw a lot of videos of maradona, etc... and i have to say that Messi is the greatest player i ever seen. hey man, im with you! I absolutely love and admire Messi. He's just a boy who loves football, thats the most adorable thing and thats why i think he's already the greatest! I was just defending him against some who thought he wasnt supposed to be in that list already | ||
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seansye
United States1722 Posts
Messi Pretty much all you have to say. 3 of the top 5 best players on this planet. | ||
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ilj.psa
Peru3081 Posts
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
On May 29 2011 07:09 ilj.psa wrote: I think most people who had seen Maradona play would agree that Messi is better, but the thing is he needs to prove it winning a WC with Argentina Not in my eyes! Maradona was amazing dont get me wrong, but a lot of it was "hype" too. Thats the most amazing thing about Messi. He seems so "down to earth". He is just another kid who enjoys football. When you see him running around the pitch with his hands tugged in his sleaves........ He just breaths football, thats why i admire him so much. In my eyes he's strongly on his way to become the best ever (despite never winning a WC, i dont see argentina in the upcoming future field 10 other people who help Messi win a WC) | ||
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Kiles
Spain8 Posts
On May 29 2011 07:13 Mithriel wrote: Not in my eyes! Maradona was amazing dont get me wrong, but a lot of it was "hype" too. Thats the most amazing thing about Messi. He seems so "down to earth". He is just another kid who enjoys football. When you see him running around the pitch with his hands tugged in his sleaves........ He just breaths football, thats why i admire him so much. In my eyes he's strongly on his way to become the best ever (despite never winning a WC, i dont see argentina in the upcoming future field 10 other people who help Messi win a WC) Totally agree with everything in your post. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
 I should've bet some money on it. Happy for Barca and Messi!Regarding Messi being best of all time, I still think it's vital that he delivers in a WC. He doesn't neccesarily have to win it, but he has to show that he can dominate on that stage, and we've seen nothing from him there yet. | ||
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
On May 29 2011 07:20 Holgerius wrote: Hahaha, I guessed 3-1 right before the game started. I should've bet some money on it. Happy for Barca and Messi!Regarding Messi being best of all time, I still think it's vital that he delivers in a WC. He doesn't neccesarily have to win it, but he has to show that he can dominate on that stage, and we've seen nothing from him there yet. I somewhat agree, but well a lot of it depends on the team you got to a WC with. I'll add a short reference to Ryan Giggs. Noone will doubt he's an absolute amazing footballer. However, unfortunately he was born in Wales so he never had the chance to rise and shine on any world or European championship. Does that make him a lesser player? In my opinion: it does not. World Championships are important, however even Messi can not win a WC single handedly. He needs at least somewhat of a decent team so he can carry them. What the argentina team showed last year was far from decent. | ||
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Trawler
Sweden382 Posts
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Kiles
Spain8 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On May 29 2011 07:25 Mithriel wrote: I somewhat agree, but well a lot of it depends on the team you got to a WC with. I'll add a short reference to Ryan Giggs. Noone will doubt he's an absolute amazing footballer. However, unfortunately he was born in Wales so he never had the chance to rise and shine on any world or European championship. Does that make him a lesser player? In my opinion: it does not. World Championships are important, however even Messi can not win a WC single handedly. He needs at least somewhat of a decent team so he can carry them. What the argentina team showed last year was far from decent. As I said, I don't think it's absolutely neccesary for him to win, he just has to be really fucking good in one. In the last WC he didn't stand out at all whatsoever. Players like Forlan outshone him by faaaaaar in terms of individual performance. And don't try to compare Argentina to Wales. Argentina is a country full of amazing world-class players. But Messi is ridiculous. Definitly the best player I've seen since Ronaldo's prime, and there is little doubt that he will go down as one of the greatest of all time. | ||
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Essem
9 Posts
My favorite in my lifetime is Zinedine Zidane, absolutely enormous when he was at the top. | ||
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mjxn
Australia939 Posts
On May 29 2011 07:25 Mithriel wrote: I somewhat agree, but well a lot of it depends on the team you got to a WC with. I'll add a short reference to Ryan Giggs. Noone will doubt he's an absolute amazing footballer. However, unfortunately he was born in Wales so he never had the chance to rise and shine on any world or European championship. Does that make him a lesser player? In my opinion: it does not. World Championships are important, however even Messi can not win a WC single handedly. He needs at least somewhat of a decent team so he can carry them. What the argentina team showed last year was far from decent. The ability to play your best despite having a poor team shows the hallmark of a legend. Maradona didn't have that luxury in 86, took a very unfancied Argentina to victory pretty much single handled (literally as well as figuratively). He also Napoli to two Serie A championships, quite extraordinary. You can't really Argentina didn't have a decent team last World Cup, it's that everybody performed below par. Messi performed below par but that was expected as he has yet to shine for the national team. | ||
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AnxiousHippo
Australia1451 Posts
As a Barça fan myself, I think Messi's a bit over rated. He's also gotten a lot more selfish this season and often doesn't end up getting the job done. | ||
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DiaBoLuS
Germany1638 Posts
he might get even better - if that is possible in any way oO | ||
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