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Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
January 17 2017 15:41 GMT
#13041
Only played 2HG

I played a bunch of wind drakes and pacisfisms. My partner played 2 drops and burn. We went 4-0 with boring.dec

The main cool thing is that we ran 4 shatters between us, and we honestly could have run more. The format's "bruisers" seem to be either green, or artifact so being able to stop either will be super strong moving forward.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
January 24 2017 05:41 GMT
#13042
Oh man, haven't visited here in a while. Anyone watched the Open? I have a feeling GB will actually under-perform by a lot at the Pro Tour.
Mowr
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden791 Posts
January 25 2017 20:17 GMT
#13043
Usually I try to avoid politics but I can't be only one thinking it:
http://imgur.com/CvGUyEc
Kill one man and they'll call you a murderer. Kill an army of men and they'll call you a general. But kill all men and they'll call you a god.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 29 2017 05:41 GMT
#13044
Dunno if anyone enjoys reading draft reports but I was pretty proud of this one:

+ Show Spoiler +
Went to likely the only draft I'll get to do for some number of months now. Only managed to scrounge up 6 people but hey, better than nothing.

P1P1 was Exquisite Archangel. I debated back and forth on this a little because if you're really far behind this thing isn't all that likely to save you anyway, but I took it, 'cause hey, mythic. I was a little wary to be in W going forward since I horribly lost two MTGO drafts so far going W with either R or B so I was looking to try to be in G. Things were looking good as I was passed Prey Upon and Greenwheel Liberator, but then, 2x Spire Patrols, Hinterland Drakes out the wazoo, Dawnfeather Eagle....UW fliers it was. Since it was only 6 people I wheeled basically anything I could ever want the entire draft, INCLUDING ANOTHER ANGEL, passed by the guy right next to me in WG. No idea what he was thinking but whateva.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/angelsdec-1/

The only relevant sideboard cards were Negate and Metallic Rebuke.

Match 1 v UB artifacts


This guy picked up every U bomb in the world. Completely cleared my board one turn with Baral's expertise on 3/4 of my creatures, free-casting the -2/-2 scry 1 to kill a Spire Patrol. Replayed my hand with relative ease though and beat him down with fliers both games.
Highlights - Topdeck wars---He pulls the 2/3 copy-an-artifact creature to use on my Treasure Keeper then realizes token gets exiled and not killed, so instead he Control Magics it (I forget the name of that rare. from Kaladesh. Oh yeah Confiscation Coup). Things are looking grim for me after his topdeck but then I grab Consulate Crackdown to wipe his board of anything useful (including my own creature) and wreck him.
Learning is Important - Drop a Copter early one game and right after I crew it for the first time he Fatal Pushes it. Next game I drew Copter and Consulate Skygate so I dropped them both, then Countless gears Renegade with a sideboarded Metallic Rebuke in hand. Crewed up the Copter, as predicted he had Fatal Push again which I countered for a single U mana (and improvise). Felt good.


Match 2 v RG aggro

Dude was splashing B for Scrapheap Scrounger. G1 was intense as hell, I was lower than him, sitting on a bunch of fliers while he sat on a bunch of huge creatures. I needed one more turn to swing in and kill him but I had to survive one attack. I swung in to prepare his life for the next turn but I kept back one creature too few because I forgot he had the 3/3 that can give other creatures haste with energy. I would have had to chump to survive but then when he attacked, he also had the 2/3 uncommon that lets you rummage and he picked up Welding Sparks, clearing away a blocker for the win. Should have just help back and tried to play a longer game.
G2 was mostly uneventful I forget how I won it.
G3 was down to me on super low life again but it was my turn to top-deck: the Exquisite Archangel! I was free to swing out and ignore my own low life for the win.

Match 3 v WG aggro

So this is that one guy who takes 100 years to play. He wasn't too bad tonight but he plays...suboptimally I guess you could put it? He doesn't play decks like you'd expect so sometimes you find yourself losing to silly things, like giving a servo Larger than Life on turn 3 just to smash in for 5 damage. He is also the guy who didn't snatch up the Wispweaver Angel so...I dunno. He's new-ish (though he's been playing over a year by now so does he still have the excuse? I dunno really.) In any case his deck was full of pump spells and low end creatures. Oh and Ridgeback Tusker, which may as well be a mythic. Oh and an actual Mythic, Ajani.
So his deck was actually seemingly really well constructed despite some subpar choices. Load up the board with low-midrange creatures then drop a Tusker, or stall and win with Ajani. Oh and to add to the annoyance, he also played Authority of the Consuls to stall even further.
G1 I was able to smash in a bunch real early with fliers but then he started playing his own so I couldn't profitably swing in anymore. Then he surprised me with Ajani. I tried o kill him in one go with my larger boardstate but it wasn't enough and then I flooded out drawing 5 Islands(!!!) in a row while he just sat back plussing and minussing Ajani.
G2 He kept a 1-lander with Authority so....free win I guess? G3 he aggro'd me way down to 6 as I gained him life just by playing creatures. Totals were 28-6 at one point. I dropped a Revoke Privileges on his Tusker only for him to drop Felidar Guardian and completely blow me out, removing my removal and re-buffing his whole board. Thankfully he opted to trade a bunch while I kept drawing creatures. I slowly slowly clawed my way back through card advantage, drawing cards with Merchant's Dockhand, and then ultimately playing enough lands to do silly things like return Wispweaver to my hand each time he tried to tap it down with that artifact tapper and blinking Cloudblazer with it. At one point he made me nearly shit my pants by saying 'Man, where's my Fumigate?!' but he was kidding.
Eventually I overwhelmed him to my first (and only) 3-0 of the format!

All-stars: Nearly every card in this deck. Honestly I don't think any card was underwhelming at any point in time. Aside from Skywhlaer's shot which I simply never drew in any of my games, ever.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
January 30 2017 04:31 GMT
#13045
How was Exquisite Archangel? I found the card to be very sub par, even in sealed. I think I'd play it in every white sealed deck, but wouldn't play white just for it, and I don't think I'd draft it very highly and potentially leave it in the sideboard in game 1.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
January 30 2017 12:42 GMT
#13046
On January 30 2017 13:31 Whole wrote:
How was Exquisite Archangel? I found the card to be very sub par, even in sealed. I think I'd play it in every white sealed deck, but wouldn't play white just for it, and I don't think I'd draft it very highly and potentially leave it in the sideboard in game 1.

There wasn't anything particularly memorable in the first pack as far as I remember so first picking it wasn't a stretch. I will admit I was slightly biased cause I wanted to try it out though. It didn't necessarily pull me into white either, it was definitely the open color regardless.

As far as its performance, I expected it to be way less useful than it was. By the time you get it down, your opponent isn't likely to have more removal for it (unless they top deck it late) and a 5/5 flier in any limited format will create pressure, despite the cost. The ability was also surprisingly relevant as I remember two games where the opponents' aggression was essentially blanked by those lines of text. It loses a lot of points in an aggressive deck to be sure, but it does make an interesting sideboard option like you said if you're trying to race I suppose. Lose the race, drop an angel, right? :D

Sample size of one and all that; I'd still stick with your gut on its usefulness, I was simply surprised by how effective it was after not really expecting much.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
February 06 2017 23:27 GMT
#13047
cool i top 4'd a pro tour
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 07 2017 04:14 GMT
#13048
Holy shit
The one time I wasn't able to watch.
Well done!

You're better than cheon now
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
February 07 2017 04:24 GMT
#13049
On February 07 2017 08:27 Whole wrote:
cool i top 4'd a pro tour



Congratz bro!! as an MTG fan im glad that there is people who browse teamliquid and are awesome at MTG.
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
February 07 2017 07:15 GMT
#13050
On February 07 2017 08:27 Whole wrote:
cool i top 4'd a pro tour


holy crap pro mtg player here on TL

Donald Smith or Eduardo Sajgalik?
good vibes only
nikj
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada669 Posts
February 08 2017 17:28 GMT
#13051
On February 07 2017 08:27 Whole wrote:
cool i top 4'd a pro tour


Wow! Congrats on the nice finish!
Y'know sometimes people ask me y'know like "What's your religion and stuff?" And I'm like "y' know it's like RTS." Uh, and they're like, "What's that?" And I'm like, "Y'know it's kinda like, kinda like Buddism."
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
February 08 2017 20:36 GMT
#13052
On February 07 2017 08:27 Whole wrote:
cool i top 4'd a pro tour

Congrats!!
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
February 08 2017 22:38 GMT
#13053
On February 07 2017 08:27 Whole wrote:
cool i top 4'd a pro tour


Awesome!
Get it by your hands...
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
February 09 2017 12:39 GMT
#13054
On February 07 2017 16:15 Meta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2017 08:27 Whole wrote:
cool i top 4'd a pro tour


holy crap pro mtg player here on TL

Donald Smith or Eduardo Sajgalik?

Smith
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
February 09 2017 16:36 GMT
#13055
On February 07 2017 08:27 Whole wrote:
cool i top 4'd a pro tour

Gotta shoot for that TL sponsorship now .

I don't follow the pro tour scene enough, but...it's Limited qualifiers and then Standard finals?




Also, as an aside...apparently there have been fan updates to that old MTG Shandalar game? Anyone here tried that out?
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
February 09 2017 17:49 GMT
#13056
On February 10 2017 01:36 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2017 08:27 Whole wrote:
cool i top 4'd a pro tour

Gotta shoot for that TL sponsorship now .

I don't follow the pro tour scene enough, but...it's Limited qualifiers and then Standard finals?




Also, as an aside...apparently there have been fan updates to that old MTG Shandalar game? Anyone here tried that out?


Pro Tours are either through Grand Prix's or Pro Tour Qualifiers.

The Pro Tour itself is a dual format of limited + standard.

iirc they're now always the constructed format for the top 8? It used to be a lot more loosey goosey a decade or so ago but they're now less random.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
February 10 2017 03:18 GMT
#13057
yea its always 2 drafts, 10 rounds of standard (always coincides with a new set) and top 8 standard
bertu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil871 Posts
February 15 2017 21:23 GMT
#13058
Haha, nice to see you here Donald, didn't know you were also into starcraft! I mostly lurk these days. Let's make a team liquid: mtg division?
SEKO SEKO SEKO
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
February 17 2017 05:32 GMT
#13059
On February 16 2017 06:23 bertu wrote:
Haha, nice to see you here Donald, didn't know you were also into starcraft! I mostly lurk these days. Let's make a team liquid: mtg division?


Whats up Lucas!! Yea I'm mostly a lurker too. Used to be big into Starcraft but moved onto DotA...now MTG lol. Maybe next pro season we should email some of the Liquid guys to get us in a team with our impressive résumés I know Ricky Chin on team Massdrop was big into Starcraft too...in his top 8 at PT Battle for Zendikar, he was wearing a liquid jacket.
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4568 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-27 15:50:10
February 27 2017 15:48 GMT
#13060
MM3 spoiler has started.

Damnation as rare. Hell its about time

Enemy fetches confirmed ^$#@%@#@ I cant believe this
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
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