• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 20:11
CET 02:11
KST 10:11
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Dark completes military service, returns to SC25[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage17Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?2Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175
StarCraft 2
General
Dark completes military service, returns to SC2 Greetings.. No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) soO & FanTaSy return! SC2 Kevin Scrim 4v4 (Nov 16) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Starcraft 2 Advance [G] How to playtest arcade maps [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
List of top players active on ShieldBattery BW General Discussion Starcraft:Brood War Discord Servers Recommended BW Settings for Mouse and Video [BSL23] RO16 Group Stage
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4 BWCL Season 65 Announcement
Strategy
Pluto's TvP 5Marine 2Medic Push Infested Terran strategies in 2026 Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread List of Game Threads The PlayStation 5 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Can Game Data Analytics Help Players Improvements
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 12936 users

Magic: The Gathering - Page 649

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 647 648 649 650 651 665 Next
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 13 2016 18:24 GMT
#12961
On August 14 2016 01:10 Whole wrote:
I'm not playing but if I was I'd play BW Control. This standard format is really weird. At first I thought Emrakul would reign supreme, but it isn't doing well online while Bant Coco and UR Thermo Alchemist are doing great. I got the RPTQ next week so I'm scrambling to find a deck to play. I've played BW control, GB Delirium, Temurge, Jund Delirium, and back on BW control. Still not sure if any of it feels good lol.

There is no one deck that seems supremely well positioned at this point. Last week at standard BW control decks were my best match ups haha
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
nikj
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada669 Posts
August 14 2016 15:06 GMT
#12962
So only 8 people showed up for the first Gameday yesterday... Sounds like a lot of people are on vacation/rather be outside cause it's summer, than sit inside and play Magic...

I ended up finishing in 2nd place losing in the final match to Green-Black Seasons Past. Felt like I could have won but was held to 4 lands in a long 1st match, and only saw 3 lands game 2. My friend also finished 3rd. He played the Seasons Past player in Round 1 losing in 3.

Overall pretty happy with the day looking forward to playing 2 more Gamedays today, though the competition should be stiffer.
Y'know sometimes people ask me y'know like "What's your religion and stuff?" And I'm like "y' know it's like RTS." Uh, and they're like, "What's that?" And I'm like, "Y'know it's kinda like, kinda like Buddism."
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
August 20 2016 18:40 GMT
#12963
looking at the scg opens - modern seems like a really fun format but the pricing is just kinda mind boggling for me.... I have some fetches since I played a lot of ktk standard but i don't think i have any other really "staple" cards. is there a particular deck that would line up well with the ktk through current block that I could slowly upgrade to a true modern deck?

Thanks in advance if anyone responds ^_^

In other news my mono-red deck is going to be my champion until my favorite dragon rotates out in a few weeks
In Inca we trust
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-20 18:50:03
August 20 2016 18:49 GMT
#12964
Bant Eldrazi is the obvious answer for "a deck that banks heavily on recent cards", but that also has a lot of older staple cards that are a big drain on the wallet (manadorks, Cavern of Souls, etc.).

What's your budget and what kind of decks are you interested in? Tier 1 decks are naturally quite expensive, but Modern is a wide field and there are quite a few tier 2 decks that can perform quite well.
Moderator
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-20 19:10:03
August 20 2016 19:09 GMT
#12965
On August 21 2016 03:49 TheYango wrote:
Bant Eldrazi is the obvious answer for "a deck that banks heavily on recent cards", but that also has a lot of older staple cards that are a big drain on the wallet (manadorks, Cavern of Souls, etc.).

What's your budget and what kind of decks are you interested in? Tier 1 decks are naturally quite expensive, but Modern is a wide field and there are quite a few tier 2 decks that can perform quite well.


I guess I kind of identify as a red or black based player - those cards just interest me the most. Jund is like way outside of my price range but I've been looking at Zoo (goyf-less versions anyway) since I have Heaths/Foothills (+ a singleton mire) already and there may be some way to cobble something together. Maybe Burn? Idk. From what some guys at my lgs told me a little while ago it's possible to do fine on a local level with a less than optimal (but still following the general game plan) "tier 1" deck since they are so expensive.

As for budget I would guess something like.... maybe $50 to $100 added on to my existing card pool to start? I'm just not sure what that could even get me.
In Inca we trust
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-20 19:27:28
August 20 2016 19:26 GMT
#12966
There are two archetypes that come to mind.

Death's Shadow Aggro is basiclly a suicide zoo deck that believes it doesn't matter how much damage you take so long as you kill the other person first. Comes in two flavours. Combo kill and Multi-colour zoo. You can probably run this with only the recent KTK Fetchlands, and the reminaing expensive cards are either manageable or are being reprinted (e.g. Inquisition of Kozilek is getting a reprint in Conspiracy 2).

The other archetype is Burn. Does basically what it says on the tin. The biggest cost in the deck will the Goblin Guides since they haven't had a reprint. Apart from that, cutting out the expensive lands (especially the Scalding Tarns!) will make the cost much more managable. Out of all the decks in Modern, Burn is probably the easiest to run without optimal lands since it's basically mono-red but runs a few other colours in the sideboard. If you're willing to have a more shaky sideboard, you can shave off even more cost. Sample list is here.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-24 14:17:25
August 20 2016 19:35 GMT
#12967
On August 21 2016 04:26 MoonBear wrote:
There are two archetypes that come to mind.

Death's Shadow Aggro is basiclly a suicide zoo deck that believes it doesn't matter how much damage you take so long as you kill the other person first. Comes in two flavours. Combo kill and Multi-colour zoo. You can probably run this with only the recent KTK Fetchlands, and the reminaing expensive cards are either manageable or are being reprinted (e.g. Inquisition of Kozilek is getting a reprint in Conspiracy 2).

The other archetype is Burn. Does basically what it says on the tin. The biggest cost in the deck will the Goblin Guides since they haven't had a reprint. Apart from that, cutting out the expensive lands (especially the Scalding Tarns!) will make the cost much more managable. Out of all the decks in Modern, Burn is probably the easiest to run without optimal lands since it's basically mono-red but runs a few other colours in the sideboard. If you're willing to have a more shaky sideboard, you can shave off even more cost. Sample list is here.


yea I can definitely cut some cost with trading some of the stuff I know I'll never use (hello Emrakul from prerelease). Thanks for the suggestions! I was watching the Death's Shadow deck on the SCG PI today and it looked pretty fun to play but I'll have to check availability of both lists at my local stores

On August 23 2016 10:20 Whole wrote:
I suggest proxying decks and trying them out first. Also don't feel rushed...Modern is best played in moderation, after grinding out a lot of the format I don't think the games are all that interesting.


Yeah I'm not going to go out and buy a list tomorrow, I just want something to perhaps build toward since it looks like I won't ever really see a dedicated burn deck be good in the Standard format (the UR deck is too wonky for me) which is something I always liked about Red I've basically just done prerelease events for like 18 months so it'd be nice to do something a bit more involved (and not have to constantly buy and rebuy new cards for each rotation)
In Inca we trust
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
August 23 2016 01:20 GMT
#12968
I suggest proxying decks and trying them out first. Also don't feel rushed...Modern is best played in moderation, after grinding out a lot of the format I don't think the games are all that interesting.
Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-25 10:10:31
August 25 2016 03:05 GMT
#12969
Hey everyone. PucaTrade has just relaunched a new style site (needs a little work, but trading is good!)

If you havent heard of it before, it's a trading site that you can trade your cards, get points, and receive other cards from people with their "PP" currency. I've sent over $5,000 worth of cards and received soon to be $6000 worth.

If you havent signed up, use my referral link, from one TLer to another =D

mod edit - referral links are not allowed

The new site features all language trading, SP, MP, HP trading as well. "Package trading option" makes it really easy.

I'm a modern player looking forward to receiving some French and German singles =)


I would be glad to help anyone unsure about shipping items and the do's and dont's involved =)
from the days of: TheMarine [NC]...YellOw [H.O.T.]-Forever99 OgOgO [_MuMyung_] ChRh PlayGrrrr.... SlayerS_`BoxeR` [Oops]Reach [ReD]NaDa [DF]zergboy..!! Pusan[S.G] Nal_rA GARIMTO SSamJJang ChoJJa JinSu Silent_Control iloveoov H_PauL_WII JulyZerg [DaK]JoYo
Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
August 30 2016 03:02 GMT
#12970
Soooooo no one talks about MTG here.. sad ! :D
from the days of: TheMarine [NC]...YellOw [H.O.T.]-Forever99 OgOgO [_MuMyung_] ChRh PlayGrrrr.... SlayerS_`BoxeR` [Oops]Reach [ReD]NaDa [DF]zergboy..!! Pusan[S.G] Nal_rA GARIMTO SSamJJang ChoJJa JinSu Silent_Control iloveoov H_PauL_WII JulyZerg [DaK]JoYo
Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-30 03:05:25
August 30 2016 03:04 GMT
#12971
Working on building Modern UG Infect at the moment... need about 6-7 cards and I'm done =) I've always enjoyed aggro--I've had modern Burn//Affinity before this. I've currently been playing a UB Control based brew that has put up good results against decks like Infect, Allies, Melira-Chord, etc. I've lost to several good decks like Burn (my deck is weak against aggro), Nahiri Combo (damn celestial colonnades//lightning helixes), and Jund, but I've since made changes to my deck and am finally getting to a solid build.

Anyone else playing Modern atM?
from the days of: TheMarine [NC]...YellOw [H.O.T.]-Forever99 OgOgO [_MuMyung_] ChRh PlayGrrrr.... SlayerS_`BoxeR` [Oops]Reach [ReD]NaDa [DF]zergboy..!! Pusan[S.G] Nal_rA GARIMTO SSamJJang ChoJJa JinSu Silent_Control iloveoov H_PauL_WII JulyZerg [DaK]JoYo
zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
August 30 2016 03:53 GMT
#12972
On August 30 2016 12:04 Th1rdEye wrote:
Working on building Modern UG Infect at the moment... need about 6-7 cards and I'm done =) I've always enjoyed aggro--I've had modern Burn//Affinity before this. I've currently been playing a UB Control based brew that has put up good results against decks like Infect, Allies, Melira-Chord, etc. I've lost to several good decks like Burn (my deck is weak against aggro), Nahiri Combo (damn celestial colonnades//lightning helixes), and Jund, but I've since made changes to my deck and am finally getting to a solid build.

Anyone else playing Modern atM?



Play modern all the time UG infect is my deck. I personally think infect is one of the best decks in the format since they always have to respect the possibility of a quick kill even if you don't have it. If you play in a lot of local tournaments is always good to switch up what 75 you play, got to put in some spicy things so they never know what to play around.
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
August 30 2016 04:24 GMT
#12973
Anyone following the Magic Story? The most recently released one ships Chandra and Nissa so hard.
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
August 30 2016 05:00 GMT
#12974
On August 30 2016 12:53 zeratul_jf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2016 12:04 Th1rdEye wrote:
Working on building Modern UG Infect at the moment... need about 6-7 cards and I'm done =) I've always enjoyed aggro--I've had modern Burn//Affinity before this. I've currently been playing a UB Control based brew that has put up good results against decks like Infect, Allies, Melira-Chord, etc. I've lost to several good decks like Burn (my deck is weak against aggro), Nahiri Combo (damn celestial colonnades//lightning helixes), and Jund, but I've since made changes to my deck and am finally getting to a solid build.

Anyone else playing Modern atM?



Play modern all the time UG infect is my deck. I personally think infect is one of the best decks in the format since they always have to respect the possibility of a quick kill even if you don't have it. If you play in a lot of local tournaments is always good to switch up what 75 you play, got to put in some spicy things so they never know what to play around.


Nice! I had already owned Spellskites, picked up Hierarchs for other endeavours, Gitaxian Probes for Delver etc, and had the fetchlands.. so kinda just went for all the little stuff on Puca next to build infect. Someone sent me 25 cards, all the Mutagenic growth, groundswell, vines, etc... Then, a few other people have chipped in to send me some of the other cards. I still need a few.

Do you use Wild Defiance at all? I'm curious as to the better match ups to use it in. I could google it, but hey.... I wanna hear it from someone personally =)

Also.. Twisted Image.. that card seems like it could be a lot of fun to use, and the card draw is great. I have a few of those to throw in as well.
from the days of: TheMarine [NC]...YellOw [H.O.T.]-Forever99 OgOgO [_MuMyung_] ChRh PlayGrrrr.... SlayerS_`BoxeR` [Oops]Reach [ReD]NaDa [DF]zergboy..!! Pusan[S.G] Nal_rA GARIMTO SSamJJang ChoJJa JinSu Silent_Control iloveoov H_PauL_WII JulyZerg [DaK]JoYo
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 30 2016 05:28 GMT
#12975
On August 30 2016 12:02 Th1rdEye wrote:
Soooooo no one talks about MTG here.. sad ! :D

I'm mostly a limited player and aside from one other dude in the off topic league forum I find almost nobody is interested.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 30 2016 06:20 GMT
#12976
On August 30 2016 14:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2016 12:02 Th1rdEye wrote:
Soooooo no one talks about MTG here.. sad ! :D

I'm mostly a limited player and aside from one other dude in the off topic league forum I find almost nobody is interested.

ONE other dude Wave?

I'm interested, I just don't have time now.
Moderator
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
August 30 2016 06:48 GMT
#12977
Pretty much me too. Would love to play more limited but don't ever have time to play. And when I do have time no one shows up to the shop.
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 30 2016 14:00 GMT
#12978
On August 30 2016 15:20 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2016 14:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 30 2016 12:02 Th1rdEye wrote:
Soooooo no one talks about MTG here.. sad ! :D

I'm mostly a limited player and aside from one other dude in the off topic league forum I find almost nobody is interested.

ONE other dude Wave?

I'm interested, I just don't have time now.

Fair enough :D
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
August 30 2016 15:32 GMT
#12979
Check out my super top secret combo deck . Thoughts?



4 Hedron Alignment
3 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
1 Emrakul, the Promised End
2 Narset Transcendent
3 Nahiri, the Harbinger
3 Anguished Unmaking
2 Declaration in Stone
2 Radiant Flames
3 Planar Outburst
1 Descend upon the Sinful
4 Contingency Plan
3 Anticipate
1 Invasive Surgery
3 Fiery Impulse
1 Wandering Fumarole
3 Evolving Wilds
3 Plains
1 Stone Quarry
1 Sunken Hollow
3 Prairie Stream
2 Island
2 Needle Spires
3 Mountain
2 Port Town
1 Foreboding Ruins
1 Swamp
1 Highland Lake
1 Shambling Vent
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 30 2016 15:33 GMT
#12980
I only appear when summoned or if there's something to chime in about.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Prev 1 647 648 649 650 651 665 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
08:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #21
ArT vs MindelVK
MiniZergUA vs TBD
Shameless vs TBD
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nathanias 152
ProTech43
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 2473
Artosis 626
Barracks 78
League of Legends
JimRising 483
Counter-Strike
Fnx 1459
taco 109
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe118
Other Games
summit1g6180
tarik_tv5881
Day[9].tv725
shahzam482
PiGStarcraft299
C9.Mang0241
NeuroSwarm96
ViBE54
Mew2King37
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta33
• musti20045 32
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP13
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Day9tv725
Upcoming Events
Ultimate Battle
10h 49m
OSC
12h 49m
OSC
22h 19m
ByuN vs MaxPax
herO vs Krystianer
Percival vs Shameless
LetaleX vs YoungYakov
Nicoract vs Gerald
GgMaChine vs ArT
CranKy Ducklings
1d 8h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 10h
ByuN vs SHIN
MaxPax vs Solar
Clem vs TBD
herO vs TBD
Lambo vs TBD
Rogue vs TBD
IPSL
1d 15h
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
BSL
1d 18h
TerrOr vs OyAji
UltrA vs Gosudark
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
[ Show More ]
BSL
2 days
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
GSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-12
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
Individual League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 591
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.