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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 08 2014 16:10 GMT
#11641
I wonder if there will be overlap with MM1 and if so how much
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
December 09 2014 04:25 GMT
#11642
Played my first multi-player commander in a while yesterday. I was mana screwed, as I was playing Sidisi and got my first source of blue mana very late. Somehow I still got second place (in a 4-man game).
EZ4ENCE
annedeman
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands350 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-09 12:06:50
December 09 2014 12:06 GMT
#11643
On December 08 2014 20:04 Tarias wrote:
I think the GPs will be awesome:D I'm sure the set won't disappoint either.

I am really excited we got one of the modern masters GP's :D
RAIN!!!, MMA!!,Innovation!!,Parting!!
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
December 09 2014 13:48 GMT
#11644
The problem is that it's an expensive GP in a very expensive city to travel to. Sad they couldn't have another in a more reasonable location.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
December 14 2014 12:30 GMT
#11645
Narset is going to be a funny EDH general.

+ Show Spoiler +
Commander: Narset, Enlightened Master

1

Sorceries:
Preordain (Own)
Ponder (Own)
Ancestral Vision (own)
Treasure Cruise (own)
Bribery (Own)
Time Warp (own)
Time Spiral (own)
Time Stretch
Temporal Mastery (own)
Waves of Aggression
Sieze the Day (Own)
World at War
Relentless Assault (own)
Mind's Desire (own)
Howl of the Horde (own)
Blatant Thievery (own)
Past in Flames (own)
Empty the Warrens (own)
Grapeshot (own)
Vandalblast (own)

21

Instant:
Brainstorm (own)
Cyclonic Rift (own)
Long-Term Plans
Remand (own)
Savage Beating (own)
Turn About (own)
Chaos Warp (own)
Foresee (own)
Opportunity (own)
Lightining Bolt (own)
Path to Exile (own)
Counterflux (own)
Cryptic Command (own)
Supreme Verdict (own)
Wild Ricochet (own)
Twincast (own)
Lightining Helix (own)
Fire//Ice (own)


39

Enchantment - Auras:
Eldrazi Conscription (Own)
Steel of the Godhead (own)
Spectra Ward (own)
Aqueous Form (own)
Control Magic (own)
Spellweaver's Volute (own)

46


Enchantments
Rest in Peace (own)
Energy Barrier (own)
Leyline of Anticipation (own)
Rhystic Study (own)
Soothsaying (own)

50

Equipment:
Lightining Greaves (own)
Sword of Feast and Famine (own)
Sword of War and Peace (own)

53

Artifact:
Sol Ring (own)
Gilded Lotus (own)
Azorius Signet (own)
Mirari (own)
Izzet Signet (own)
Boros Signet (own)
Cromatic Lantern (own)
Proteus Staff (own)
Torpor Orb (own)

62

Land
Vivid Crag(own)
Vivid Meadow(own)
Vivid Creek(own)
Reflecting Pool(own)
Sulfur Falls (own)
Clifftop Retreat (own)
Glacial Fortress (own)
Hallowed Fountain (own)
Steam Vents (own)
Sacred Foundry (own)
Command Tower (own)
Mana Confluence (own)
Flamekin Village (own)
Temple of Triumph (own)

8 Island
8 Plains
8 Mountains

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MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
December 14 2014 21:02 GMT
#11646
Greaves prevents you from putting auras on narset. With no stoneforge or steelshapers gift you should probably just play a hammer of purphoros.
Slayers' stronghold also worth considering.
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
December 15 2014 09:22 GMT
#11647
On December 15 2014 06:02 MCMcEmcee wrote:
Greaves prevents you from putting auras on narset. With no stoneforge or steelshapers gift you should probably just play a hammer of purphoros.
Slayers' stronghold also worth considering.


I ended up changing it to the hexproof haste boots, but hammer is probs better yea.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
December 16 2014 16:52 GMT
#11648
Beating Abzan players with main deck 4 Thoughtseizes on a mull to 5 with UB Vault...through decking without Ashioks...against a Sorin token...by one turn.
Get it by your hands...
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
December 16 2014 17:10 GMT
#11649
On December 17 2014 01:52 Judicator wrote:
Beating Abzan players with main deck 4 Thoughtseizes on a mull to 5 with UB Vault...through decking without Ashioks...against a Sorin token...by one turn.


Oh Oh!

I know this one!

Things that make people playing against control Salty.
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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 19:49:56
December 16 2014 19:40 GMT
#11650
Salt doesn't even describe it. I could tell he was noticeably upset because he kept rearranging his lands, utter ending a vault when I had 5 mana up later on the game. Wish I wasn't in a rush this morning so I could taken a screenshot of the chat. He played 2 Thoughtseizes on the first 5 turns of the game...

Also the list is changing, been pretty impressed with the singleton Void Snare, mana efficiency during lands 4 through 6 is pretty interesting.
Get it by your hands...
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
December 16 2014 20:43 GMT
#11651
I played a voyage's end in uw and it was pretty solid.
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
December 16 2014 20:59 GMT
#11652
On December 17 2014 05:43 MCMcEmcee wrote:
I played a voyage's end in uw and it was pretty solid.


Yeah, I saw some decks playing singing bell strike as their early game interaction, I am still a fan of Bile Blight in UB, but increasingly less so.
Get it by your hands...
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-16 21:12:31
December 16 2014 21:08 GMT
#11653
even though i don't like bile blight, i think it is necessary to maindeck to just not to get ran over by any sort of 2 drop-3 drop curve out (& heroic & tokens). and it is only bad against abzan, so it isn't the worst.
Uranium
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1077 Posts
December 17 2014 22:24 GMT
#11654
Control is actually terrible right now, why do you guys do this to yourselves
"Sentry imba! You see? YOU SEE??!!" - Sen | "Marauder die die!" - oGsMC | "Oh my god, she texted me back!" - Day[9]
Wolfstan
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada605 Posts
December 17 2014 22:35 GMT
#11655
I seem to have an irrational aversion to green. Haven't touched abzan temur or sultai yet. I just hate forests I guess.
EG - ROOT - Gambit Gaming
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 17 2014 22:35 GMT
#11656
I think your average semi-competitive magic player would rather sleeve up 60 islands than 60 cards with no islands.
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MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
December 18 2014 00:04 GMT
#11657
On December 18 2014 07:24 Uranium wrote:
Control is actually terrible right now, why do you guys do this to yourselves

It's not terrible, it's just not the best. The decline in aggro is pretty good for control decks.
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
December 18 2014 04:22 GMT
#11658
On December 18 2014 07:24 Uranium wrote:
Control is actually terrible right now, why do you guys do this to yourselves


Eh? Wouldn't say its terrible, I think you are underestimating turn 4 Digs after ripping apart the opponent's hand. I would say its pretty good in most match ups if you are tuned right. The meta is actually pretty tight right now which makes it better for control decks as for the first in a long time, I am not dancing around for solutions on opposite ends of the spectrum for different match ups.
Get it by your hands...
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10516 Posts
December 18 2014 05:33 GMT
#11659
Can I just say one thing? Semi-rant. I don't see it here, mostly standard talk, but TC and DTT DO NOT NEED A BAN. jesus christ everything on reddit right now is just "ban? ban? ban?"

the card is not format warping. it makes people adapt to the meta, which all the decks have. pod decks are still strong, BGx decks have adapted properly. TC is not format warping, nor is it ban worthy. it increases deck strengths for the UR delver decks, but it does not break them.

ok rant over.
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RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
December 18 2014 08:49 GMT
#11660
Terrible and Not the best are the same thing in mtg. Sorry, the skill cap isn't that high.
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
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