• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 22:00
CET 04:00
KST 12:00
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros9[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win62025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION3Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams12Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest5
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four DreamHack Open 2013 revealed Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros
Tourneys
SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Kirktown Chat Brawl #9 $50 8:30PM EST 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Ladder Map Matchup Stats What's going on with b.net? Map pack for 3v3/4v4/FFA games BW General Discussion
Tourneys
BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION [ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread The Perfect Game
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Dating: How's your luck? US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Challenge: Maths isn't all…
Hildegard
more word salad -- pay no h…
Peanutsc
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1459 users

Magic: The Gathering - Page 520

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 518 519 520 521 522 665 Next
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
February 28 2014 12:35 GMT
#10381
On February 28 2014 19:40 mr_tolkien wrote:
Dunno what to run at the next PTQ here.

Hesitating between monoB, BW control, and burn. I have experience with the 3 lists but a bit more with monoB. What would you guys suggest ?

WBR burn control - blightning, stone rain, molten rain, chandra's phoenix, path, bolt, helix, thoughtsieze, slaughter games, sin collector, tidehollow sculler

[this is a horrible list, dont try it]
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
February 28 2014 13:26 GMT
#10382
I've been testing a WBR control/midrange deck with Blood Baron, Whipzedat, Elspeth, and Stormbreath as closers, 4 main angers and a shitload of removal/thoughtseizes. It's worked out pretty well against mono u and mono b, over 50% against WB midrange, but really bad against burn or any deck that has burning earth in it.

Currently trying Warleader's Helix in the main as some incidental lifegain to offset shocklands + thoughtseize and burn decks.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
February 28 2014 14:30 GMT
#10383
Havent even seen Fated Retribution. Still think its worse than Planar though in most match ups. Right now in the Underworld Connections decks ( B, WB, BUG and Junk) they try to lean on that card in most post wrath scenarios wherrr we have like 6 plus mana.

The darksteel ingots are interesting because of 2 reasons, its a better play than divination on 3 in some matchups. Turn 3 ingot means 5 mana on 4 where I can wrath and bait them into PC the next turn, or I can divination and use a spot removal or cycle and still bait them into a PC.

This deck taps out more often than not and usually comfortably wins off of Mutavault.
Get it by your hands...
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21943 Posts
February 28 2014 14:57 GMT
#10384
On February 28 2014 19:40 mr_tolkien wrote:
Dunno what to run at the next PTQ here.

Hesitating between monoB, BW control, and burn. I have experience with the 3 lists but a bit more with monoB. What would you guys suggest ?

Assuming your talking standard I ask if you considered Uw devotion. I've watched MJ (a popular magic stream) play it recently and it looks very solid.

+ Show Spoiler +

4 Cloudfin Raptor
4 Judge's Familiar
4 Frostburn Wierd
4 Tidebinder Mage
4 Detention Sphere
4 Nightveil Specter
4 Thasa
3 Ephara
4 Master of Waves
1 Rapid Hybridization
4 Hallowed Fountain
4 Temple of Enlightenment
2 Godless Shrine
4 Mutavault
10 islands

1 Rapid Hybridization
4 Glare of Heresy
3 Gainsay
2 Dissolve
2 Bident of Thasa
3 Domestication
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
February 28 2014 16:13 GMT
#10385
On February 28 2014 23:57 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2014 19:40 mr_tolkien wrote:
Dunno what to run at the next PTQ here.

Hesitating between monoB, BW control, and burn. I have experience with the 3 lists but a bit more with monoB. What would you guys suggest ?

Assuming your talking standard I ask if you considered Uw devotion. I've watched MJ (a popular magic stream) play it recently and it looks very solid.

+ Show Spoiler +

4 Cloudfin Raptor
4 Judge's Familiar
4 Frostburn Wierd
4 Tidebinder Mage
4 Detention Sphere
4 Nightveil Specter
4 Thasa
3 Ephara
4 Master of Waves
1 Rapid Hybridization
4 Hallowed Fountain
4 Temple of Enlightenment
2 Godless Shrine
4 Mutavault
10 islands

1 Rapid Hybridization
4 Glare of Heresy
3 Gainsay
2 Dissolve
2 Bident of Thasa
3 Domestication

I'm talking standard yeah, but I lack a few cards for this list, so I'm not considering it. It's good for sure, but it's not like it was unfairly better than other lists, so I won't get cards to build it.
The legend of Darien lives on
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-01 08:00:23
March 01 2014 08:00 GMT
#10386
This is my W/G aggro list.
+ Show Spoiler +
4 Soldier of the Pantheon
4 Dryad Militant
4 Voice of Resurgence
4 Fleecemane Lion
3 Loxodon Smiter
3 Banisher Priest
4 Brimaz, King of Oreskos

2 Ajani, Caller of the Pride

2 Advent of the Wurm
4 Selesnya Charm
4 Brave the Elements

4 Temple Garden
4 Temple of Plenty
8 Plains
6 Forest


I'm thinking of swapping Dryad Militant out for Precinct Captain. Thoughts? If I do this, should I also swap Advent for Spear of Heliod? TBH, I initially tried Spear over Ajani, and I didn't like it. It was either a win more card or extremely underwhelming. It's good in mirror and aggro vs aggro, but my matchup for that is already good and my sideboard is already equipped for it. I think without Spear buffing Precinct Captain tokens, he would still be a card with good value.
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
March 02 2014 19:47 GMT
#10387
GP Richmond could have over 3000 people... that's crazy.
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
March 02 2014 20:14 GMT
#10388
AIN'T GOT NOTHIN' ON VEGAS BABY ((caps lock is cruise control for cool))
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
March 03 2014 03:50 GMT
#10389
Played UW devotion at Game Day, went x-1 and missed the top 4 cut on breakers :<
Felt like I wanted more non-creature permanents to power Thassa/Ephara through Verdicts and such. Thassa was insane as usual and Ephara was quite good.
Not entirely sold on the white splash, as the UW and aggro matchups felt a bit worse and the green matchups felt exactly the same. Black matchup probably improves but I didn't play any games against black decks that didn't involve them mulling to 5 or missing land drops.

That said, if you played mono-blue before BNG then the UW version is a fine choice. The rise of RGx means only good things for the deck imo.
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
March 03 2014 08:39 GMT
#10390
I'm thinking of buying my standard deck on MTGO. Is there any way to buy in bulk to get it cheaper or anything I should know to save me a few bucks?
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
March 03 2014 08:56 GMT
#10391
Confirming that tonight I used the pickup line it'd like to be the jace to your vraska and she randomly stays making out with me thank you based magic I think she just wanted to make our hahaha
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
March 03 2014 08:57 GMT
#10392
I may or may not be in her passenger seat right now. Halp
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
March 03 2014 09:03 GMT
#10393
On March 03 2014 17:39 Whole wrote:
I'm thinking of buying my standard deck on MTGO. Is there any way to buy in bulk to get it cheaper or anything I should know to save me a few bucks?


Not really. The bots have pretty standardized prices, but you mostly just type in what you want and find the lowest one. There are websites that track pricing, but in my experience, they collect data too slowly to be of any use. Any big bargains get jumped on immediately for arbitrage.

On March 03 2014 17:57 Risen wrote:
I may or may not be in her passenger seat right now. Halp


It sounds like you don't need any help.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21943 Posts
March 03 2014 12:22 GMT
#10394
On March 03 2014 12:50 MCMcEmcee wrote:
Played UW devotion at Game Day, went x-1 and missed the top 4 cut on breakers :<
Felt like I wanted more non-creature permanents to power Thassa/Ephara through Verdicts and such. Thassa was insane as usual and Ephara was quite good.
Not entirely sold on the white splash, as the UW and aggro matchups felt a bit worse and the green matchups felt exactly the same. Black matchup probably improves but I didn't play any games against black decks that didn't involve them mulling to 5 or missing land drops.

That said, if you played mono-blue before BNG then the UW version is a fine choice. The rise of RGx means only good things for the deck imo.

Dsphere and Bident after sideboard gives you more post verdict permanents then monoU got so I dont see why you wouldnt like the white splash. It only adds good things imo.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 15:24:33
March 03 2014 15:24 GMT
#10395
UWx isn't exactly playing out a bunch of targets for Dsphere, monoblue already has Bident. Probably want a Jace somewhere in the 75 if there's a lot of control in the metagame. Probably want a Bident in the main as well, maybe over an Ephara.

Also the manabase is a definite downgrade from monoblue. I do think Ephara is powerful enough that it works out but it's not a free splash or anything.
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
March 04 2014 01:14 GMT
#10396
On March 03 2014 17:57 Risen wrote:
I may or may not be in her passenger seat right now. Halp


Vraska uses +1, decisions were regretted.
Get it by your hands...
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
March 07 2014 20:26 GMT
#10397
On March 03 2014 17:57 Risen wrote:
I may or may not be in her passenger seat right now. Halp



lol if you are the one asking for help, i fear shes the one who needs it.

lmao this was a funny read
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
March 07 2014 22:43 GMT
#10398
Scalding tarns, what are you doing?! STAHP!
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 07 2014 23:19 GMT
#10399
I still remember when the Zendikar fetches were considered budget fetches for Blue Legacy decks. Sheesh. So glad I got my playset when they were $20.

I think it's getting to the point where some of the good Legacy decks are cheaper than Modern decks lol
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
March 08 2014 01:15 GMT
#10400
Tell me about it. I just got a set of cryptic commands at $40 each, because i chose to invest in modern a month too late. Fuck me. At least I didn't get them at $50, and I got my snaps at $18...
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
Prev 1 518 519 520 521 522 665 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
SC4ALL
15:00
SC4ALL - Day 2
TriGGeR vs MixuLIVE!
Percival vs TBD
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 171
ProTech118
Nina 91
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 9988
NaDa 70
Noble 35
HiyA 32
Dota 2
monkeys_forever816
NeuroSwarm48
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 947
Counter-Strike
fl0m1578
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1471
Mew2King32
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor112
Other Games
summit1g11956
C9.Mang0307
WinterStarcraft270
Maynarde145
ViBE55
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2226
Counter-Strike
PGL241
Other Games
BasetradeTV42
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 78
• davetesta72
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush413
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
6h
Wardi Open
9h
Monday Night Weeklies
14h
Replay Cast
20h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 7h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 9h
LAN Event
1d 12h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
LAN Event
2 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
LAN Event
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
LAN Event
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
LAN Event
5 days
IPSL
5 days
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
LAN Event
6 days
IPSL
6 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.