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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 16:53:18
April 09 2013 16:51 GMT
#6901
E: nvm
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 17:06:32
April 09 2013 17:04 GMT
#6902
This card is no where near the level of Vengeant. His plus 1 is a combo as the untap matters far more than the tap. His -2 is just meh. Vengeant's Frosting effect mattered a lot and the lack of that on this card makes it neither a tempo (how are you taxing the opponent on THEIR turn?), an average defensive card (4 mana and no life gain).

Just a pretty meh card until the combo pieces show up (if at all).

That makes him less than solid btw. Below average for sure at this point.
Get it by your hands...
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 19:02:46
April 09 2013 19:02 GMT
#6903
Yeah, the best planeswalkers have + abilities that can defend themselves. Ral can't do that. The planeswalker he most resembles is Liliana, so let's compare them:

-Liliana costs 3 mana instead of 4.
-Liliana's + ability is straight up better.
-Liliana's - ability is probably better, but it's close.
+Ral starts with 4 loyalty so he can - two turns in a row.

So he's basically a worse Liliana, but in exchange he's blue. He has a +1 that doesn't disrupt control decks, so he can be played in one. Will he see play? Likely, but keep in mind Liliana is not dominating standard right now, and this guy is overall an inferior version.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 19:41:30
April 09 2013 19:36 GMT
#6904
Aaron Forsythe spoiled another card today on his Twitter account, but to save time and searching, here's what it says/does (spoiler tag holds the image proper).

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Renounce the Guilds - 1W
Instant - Rare
Each player sacrifices a multicolored permanent.
"Scores will die in the name of peace. This is what you call compromise?" - Gideon Jura, to Aurelia

So, another card that gets around Hexproof and other pesky multicolor things (Falkenrath Aristocrat, Olivia, St. Traft), and is potentially a card that will see play in Modern and Legacy white weenie decks (2 mana instant speed LD? Yes please).
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
April 09 2013 19:52 GMT
#6905
Wow, my god that's good removal. The only permanent in my deck that would hit is reckoner too, and in many situations I'll gladly trade him for something more menacing. Dual lands are still colorless, right?
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 19:55:31
April 09 2013 19:53 GMT
#6906
Yeah, its not land destruction. All lands are colourless unless under the effect of something like Painter's Servant.

EDIT: okay dryad's arbor is green but you get the idea.
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cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 20:28:54
April 09 2013 20:12 GMT
#6907
"Scores will die in the name of peace. This is what you call compromise?"


Lol. Gideon mad at the Boros (at least Aurelia). No wonder Wizards made him mono-white in Gatecrash and not WR.

Edit: Random question. Wanna make sure I have this right.

Someone suggested on Gatherer that playing Sudden Disappearance on oneself would combo well with Gideon, Champ of Justice. But... Gideon would be exiled and couldn't trigger his ultimate until the end step when everything came back, right? Plus, one can only activate loyalty abilities during main phases, correct?
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
April 09 2013 20:28 GMT
#6908
On April 10 2013 04:36 Kinie wrote:
Aaron Forsythe spoiled another card today on his Twitter account, but to save time and searching, here's what it says/does (spoiler tag holds the image proper).

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Renounce the Guilds - 1W
Instant - Rare
Each player sacrifices a multicolored permanent.
"Scores will die in the name of peace. This is what you call compromise?" - Gideon Jura, to Aurelia

So, another card that gets around Hexproof and other pesky multicolor things (Falkenrath Aristocrat, Olivia, St. Traft), and is potentially a card that will see play in Modern and Legacy white weenie decks (2 mana instant speed LD? Yes please).


You know I had a friend during one of our Lorywn drafts thought that Islands were blue permanents. Please don't be like my friend and find out the hard way

Card seems fine, not sure what it really does right now, hits...Detention Sphere is probably the most relevant permanent right now. None of the creatures really matter as much since Devour Flesh and Azorious Charm are doing a good job covering all the bases.
Get it by your hands...
KtheZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States813 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 20:50:21
April 09 2013 20:48 GMT
#6909
On April 10 2013 04:36 Kinie wrote:
Aaron Forsythe spoiled another card today on his Twitter account, but to save time and searching, here's what it says/does (spoiler tag holds the image proper).

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Renounce the Guilds - 1W
Instant - Rare
Each player sacrifices a multicolored permanent.
"Scores will die in the name of peace. This is what you call compromise?" - Gideon Jura, to Aurelia

So, another card that gets around Hexproof and other pesky multicolor things (Falkenrath Aristocrat, Olivia, St. Traft), and is potentially a card that will see play in Modern and Legacy white weenie decks (2 mana instant speed LD? Yes please).


IMO I think this is a pretty good sideboard card, but I don't like how they tacked on "each player' rather than just "target player". The spell only hits a very minor subset of cards; why tack on the extra downside of hitting both players?

Its like devour flesh: 1B for sac upside +life downside (or vice versa)
This card is : 1W for sac upside Only multicolored downside Hits both players downside

I can see it doing good work against detention spheres, but I think its usage will vary so much (from sacing a chump to nuking a planeswalker) that it will be quite unreliable.
It's also completely dead against mono-colored decks (which arent really in standard)
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
April 09 2013 21:15 GMT
#6910
Well the "downside" of only multicolored is actually what makes it great. Played a game at a PTQ a few weekends ago, I had silverblade + nearheath, angelic overseer + nearheath, 2x angel of jubilation on the board, he has 2 thrag beasts, thrag, and then olivia. He completely wipes my board over the course of a few turns with olivia since I can't actually swing in at him with his 30-odd health as i'd lose the board. I play this card, olivia is the only target on the whole board, I win ez.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
April 09 2013 21:27 GMT
#6911
Ok, I derped on the land thing, my bad.

I think it might be semi-relevant due to it being a removal spell in a color that normally doesn't have removal via sacrifice (that's a black thing, not white). It gives decks with white in the manabase another spell to kill D-Sphere, Olivia, etc.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
April 09 2013 22:28 GMT
#6912
On April 10 2013 04:36 Kinie wrote:
Aaron Forsythe spoiled another card today on his Twitter account, but to save time and searching, here's what it says/does (spoiler tag holds the image proper).

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Renounce the Guilds - 1W
Instant - Rare
Each player sacrifices a multicolored permanent.
"Scores will die in the name of peace. This is what you call compromise?" - Gideon Jura, to Aurelia

So, another card that gets around Hexproof and other pesky multicolor things (Falkenrath Aristocrat, Olivia, St. Traft), and is potentially a card that will see play in Modern and Legacy white weenie decks (2 mana instant speed LD? Yes please).


Ooohhhh, so cool. This is a nice hurdle for Geist of St. Traft decks.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 10 2013 00:42 GMT
#6913
Good tech against Boggles and Geist in Modern. Also hits Smiters, DRS, Ajani V and the occasional Sorin. I think it's nice tech as a sideboard card.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
April 10 2013 02:55 GMT
#6914
doesn't hit gladecover scout, curiosity/spiritdancer, or coronet so I dunno how great it is against anything but the actual bogles.
Also Spell Snare is a card in Modern (and Dispel will be around in most Geist decks in Standard).
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Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
April 10 2013 03:01 GMT
#6915
On April 10 2013 05:28 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 04:36 Kinie wrote:
Aaron Forsythe spoiled another card today on his Twitter account, but to save time and searching, here's what it says/does (spoiler tag holds the image proper).

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Renounce the Guilds - 1W
Instant - Rare
Each player sacrifices a multicolored permanent.
"Scores will die in the name of peace. This is what you call compromise?" - Gideon Jura, to Aurelia

So, another card that gets around Hexproof and other pesky multicolor things (Falkenrath Aristocrat, Olivia, St. Traft), and is potentially a card that will see play in Modern and Legacy white weenie decks (2 mana instant speed LD? Yes please).


You know I had a friend during one of our Lorywn drafts thought that Islands were blue permanents. Please don't be like my friend and find out the hard way

Card seems fine, not sure what it really does right now, hits...Detention Sphere is probably the most relevant permanent right now. None of the creatures really matter as much since Devour Flesh and Azorious Charm are doing a good job covering all the bases.


Yup, used to think mountains were red in the days of Koth and Kor Firewalker. Lost a lot of games due to this...
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
EMIYA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States433 Posts
April 10 2013 04:16 GMT
#6916
now thats what i'm talking about, say goodbye geist, i'm splashing for this removal.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
April 10 2013 04:31 GMT
#6917
If you are going to splash, wouldn't black be a better a color for sideboard?
Get it by your hands...
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
April 10 2013 14:08 GMT
#6918
That Teysa Mana cost makes me sad. =(
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
April 10 2013 15:21 GMT
#6919
On April 10 2013 23:08 Shotcoder wrote:
That Teysa Mana cost makes me sad. =(


Yeah, no kidding, I was looking forward to playing her, but I guess I'll just have to use her in Commander instead
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
April 10 2013 16:28 GMT
#6920
Same here cant say I expected a 7 drop with that picture..
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