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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
On February 19 2013 08:29 Judicator wrote: You really need to test that deck. I don't think its gonna go as you are planning. I have been. Its worked ok so far, need to sort out the manabase, but otherwise pretty good. Vs agro just chump/trade until servitude, vs midrange boardwipe into servitude, :vs counter just swing & gavony because no one wants to counter a 1 drop. | ||
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Audemed
United States893 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Deck: BWU Lands: 25 1x Orzhov Guildgate 1x Dimir Guildgate 8x Swamp 7x Plains 8x Islands Monsters: 22 1x Treasury Thrull 1x Vizkopa Guildmage 1x Duskmantle Guildmage 1x Welkin Tern 2x Wight of Precinct Six 1x Bane Ally Broker 3x Assault Griffin 2x Deathcult Rogue 2x Balutstrade Spy 1x Syndicate Enforcer 2x Dinrova Horror 1x Sapphire Drake 1x Consuming Aberration 1x Smog Elemental 1x Metropolis Sprite 1x Dutiful Thrull Spells: 13 2x Death's Approach 1x Orzhov Charm 3x Grisly Spectacle 1x Shadow Slice 1x Last Thoughts 1x Rise from the Grave 1x Smite 2x Dimir Keyrune 1x Angelic Edict Sealed pool + Show Spoiler + Black: 1x Contaminated Ground 2x Horror of the Dim 2x Wight of Precinct Six 1x Corpse Blockade 1x Rise from the Grave 1x Syndicate Enforcer 1x Midnight Recovery 1x Devour Flesh 2x Death's Approach 1x Smog Elemental 2x Shadow Slice 3x Grisly Spectacle 3x Gutter Skulk 2x Balustrade Spy 1x Shadow Alley Denizen Blue: 3x Totally Lost 3x Last Thoughts 1x Mindeye Drake 1x Sage's Row Denizen 1x Jace's Phantasm 1x Welkin Tern 1x Vedalken Entrancer 1x Voidwalk 1x Clinging Anemones 1x Metropolis Sprite 1x Cloudfin Raptor 1x Sapphire Drake 1x Incursion Specialist 1x Scatter Arc Green: 2x Adaptive Snapjaw 1x Tower Defense 2x Miming Slime 1x Predator's Rapport 1x Disciple of the Old Ways 1x Ivy Lane Denizen 1x Verdant Haven 1x Spire Tracer Red: 4x Skinbrand Goblin 1x Five-Alarm Fire 1x Tin Street Market 1x Massive Raid 1x Homing Lightning 1x Structural Collaspe 1x Madcap Skills White: 2x Holy Mantle 1x Smite 3x Assault Griffin 1x Guildscorn Ward 1x Dutiful Thrull 1x Angelic Edict 1x Court Street Denizen 1x Aerial Maneuver 1x Boros Elite Multi-Color: 1x Bane Alley Broker 2x Deathcult Rogue 1x Mortus Strider 1x Duskmantle Guildmage 1x Consuming Aberration 3x Dinrova Horror 3x Paranoid Delusions 1x Whispering Madness 2x Coerced Confession 1x Hydroform 1x Zameck Guildmage 1x Elusive Krasis 1x Fathom Mage 2x Skyknight Legionnaire 1x Skarrg Guildmage 1x Threasury Thrull 1x Orzhov Charm 1x Ground Assault 1x Signal the Clans 1x Vizkopa Guildmage Artifacts: 2x Dimir Keyrune 1x Skyblinder Staff 1x Razortip Whip 1x Armored Transport Lands: 1x Simic Guildgate 1x Orzhov Guildgate 1x Boros Guildgate 1x Dimir Guildgate 1x Gruul Guildgate | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On February 20 2013 04:33 NotSorry wrote: So my new deck list for a sealed league I'm playing in, rate/critique + Show Spoiler + Deck: BWU Lands: 25 1x Orzhov Guildgate 1x Dimir Guildgate 8x Swamp 7x Plains 8x Islands Monsters: 22 1x Treasury Thrull 1x Vizkopa Guildmage 1x Duskmantle Guildmage 1x Welkin Tern 2x Wight of Precinct Six 1x Bane Ally Broker 3x Assault Griffin 2x Deathcult Rogue 2x Balutstrade Spy 1x Syndicate Enforcer 2x Dinrova Horror 1x Sapphire Drake 1x Consuming Aberration 1x Smog Elemental 1x Metropolis Sprite 1x Dutiful Thrull Spells: 13 2x Death's Approach 1x Orzhov Charm 3x Grisly Spectacle 1x Shadow Slice 1x Last Thoughts 1x Rise from the Grave 1x Smite 2x Dimir Keyrune 1x Angelic Edict Sealed pool + Show Spoiler + Black: 1x Contaminated Ground 2x Horror of the Dim 2x Wight of Precinct Six 1x Corpse Blockade 1x Rise from the Grave 1x Syndicate Enforcer 1x Midnight Recovery 1x Devour Flesh 2x Death's Approach 1x Smog Elemental 2x Shadow Slice 3x Grisly Spectacle 3x Gutter Skulk 2x Balustrade Spy 1x Shadow Alley Denizen Blue: 3x Totally Lost 3x Last Thoughts 1x Mindeye Drake 1x Sage's Row Denizen 1x Jace's Phantasm 1x Welkin Tern 1x Vedalken Entrancer 1x Voidwalk 1x Clinging Anemones 1x Metropolis Sprite 1x Cloudfin Raptor 1x Sapphire Drake 1x Incursion Specialist 1x Scatter Arc Green: 2x Adaptive Snapjaw 1x Tower Defense 2x Miming Slime 1x Predator's Rapport 1x Disciple of the Old Ways 1x Ivy Lane Denizen 1x Verdant Haven 1x Spire Tracer Red: 4x Skinbrand Goblin 1x Five-Alarm Fire 1x Tin Street Market 1x Massive Raid 1x Homing Lightning 1x Structural Collaspe 1x Madcap Skills White: 2x Holy Mantle 1x Smite 3x Assault Griffin 1x Guildscorn Ward 1x Dutiful Thrull 1x Angelic Edict 1x Court Street Denizen 1x Aerial Maneuver 1x Boros Elite Multi-Color: 1x Bane Alley Broker 2x Deathcult Rogue 1x Mortus Strider 1x Duskmantle Guildmage 1x Consuming Aberration 3x Dinrova Horror 3x Paranoid Delusions 1x Whispering Madness 2x Coerced Confession 1x Hydroform 1x Zameck Guildmage 1x Elusive Krasis 1x Fathom Mage 2x Skyknight Legionnaire 1x Skarrg Guildmage 1x Threasury Thrull 1x Orzhov Charm 1x Ground Assault 1x Signal the Clans 1x Vizkopa Guildmage Artifacts: 2x Dimir Keyrune 1x Skyblinder Staff 1x Razortip Whip 1x Armored Transport Lands: 1x Simic Guildgate 1x Orzhov Guildgate 1x Boros Guildgate 1x Dimir Guildgate 1x Gruul Guildgate I thought sealed decks were supposed to be 40 cards? Are you playing a different version of normal sealed? | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
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Audemed
United States893 Posts
On February 19 2013 22:52 Judicator wrote: Thats a common fallacy. Trying to not lose is bad and not the same as trying to win. Figured as much. | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On February 20 2013 06:42 MoonBear wrote: Also when you sideboard you have to exchange cards on a 1-to-1 basis. No just adding in all 15 sideboard cards. If you add a card in, you have to take a card out. For tournaments, you must register either 0 or 15 card sideboards. Since you can register any deck 60 cards or over, it occurs to me that it may be legal to just add your sideboard to your deck for games 2 and 3 but I don't know. I agree though, it can't be like adding 5 cards and taking out 2. I think there was a belcher deck that top-8'd an SCG Legacy event with no sideboard lol. | ||
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On February 20 2013 06:48 Sn0_Man wrote: For tournaments, you must register either 0 or 15 card sideboards. Since you can register any deck 60 cards or over, it occurs to me that it may be legal to just add your sideboard to your deck for games 2 and 3 but I don't know. I agree though, it can't be like adding 5 cards and taking out 2. I think there was a belcher deck that top-8'd an SCG Legacy event with no sideboard lol. No. It has to be a 1-for-1 swap. When you register your deck, that's the deck. Sideboard is separate. Just adding your sideboard is adding 15 taking 0 out is not ok. You are correct that it can be 0 or 15 (although nothing in between). The only exception is in Limited where you simply have to have at least 40 cards in the deck. You're thinking of the 15 Island Sideboard Belcher Deck from SCG Columbus haha. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On February 20 2013 06:57 MoonBear wrote: No. It has to be a 1-for-1 swap. When you register your deck, that's the deck. Sideboard is separate. Just adding your sideboard is adding 15 taking 0 out is not ok. You are correct that it can be 0 or 15 (although nothing in between). The only exception is in Limited where you simply have to have at least 40 cards in the deck. You're thinking of the 15 Island Sideboard Belcher Deck from SCG Columbus haha. Okay yeah that  If I were that guy I'd totally shuffle my whole sideboard in and take out 15 before every post-board game XD. | ||
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On February 20 2013 07:05 Sn0_Man wrote: Okay yeah that If I were that guy I'd totally shuffle my whole sideboard in and take out 15 before every post-board game XD. He did that a lot but he also did tactical sideboarding 4 cards at a time too. | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On February 19 2013 22:47 Audemed wrote: Perhaps an entirely stupid question, but against straight mill decks (esper control and what not), would it be a good idea for aggro/midrange to just dump half or all their sideboard in? I mean sure it's stupid to put mizzum mortars in, but couldn't a few extra cards help, even if they're not the "ideal" ones? Even though the question is about constructed, it's totally legal and reasonable to add any amount of cards in limited, but it's only a good idea if you have actually useful cards to board in. If you've got 26-27 playables, then yes, it can be worth diluting your deck quality somewhat in order to increase your "life total". So yours was not an entirely stupid question. | ||
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bobbob
United States368 Posts
Vs mill decks, it's not bad to board in extra cards if they won't hurt your ability to actually kill your opponent. | ||
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Pellucidity
Netherlands377 Posts
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
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MCMcEmcee
United States1609 Posts
Sideboard is a work in process but I like my maindeck, give or take 1-2 disruption choices depending on the field. Dimir charm on trostani/faithmender/silklash spider/etc. is great. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On February 20 2013 11:58 MCMcEmcee wrote: Been running BUG Delver in standard, feels pretty good overall. Haven't lost to a reckoner yet. Did lose to my own shuffling aka a mull to 3 on the draw against white monored, and to geist + 6 boros charms... Sideboard is a work in process but I like my maindeck, give or take 1-2 disruption choices depending on the field. Dimir charm on trostani/faithmender/silklash spider/etc. is great. Got a list? | ||
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