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DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
May 11 2012 03:34 GMT
#6861

Only expansion blizz ever made that ACTUALLY told a good story was BW. LOD did nothing story-wise for D2


well baal just disappearing off into wherever wouldve been a pretty big plot thread to leave hanging around
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
TheRealDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
United States213 Posts
May 11 2012 03:38 GMT
#6862
On May 11 2012 11:59 Sakata Gintoki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 11:47 Two_DoWn wrote:
Who da fuck writes a story with only 4 acts. Blizz didnt pay attention in 10th grade english class.


I'll tell you who da fuck, a company that wishes to milk your parents' hard-earned money through releasing expansions.


If you save a quarter a day, you can afford the expansion by the time it comes out. It's not hard.
"They claim that we violent. We named after Tyrants. This revolution won't be televised we keep it silent."
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 11 2012 03:39 GMT
#6863
On May 11 2012 12:34 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Show nested quote +

Only expansion blizz ever made that ACTUALLY told a good story was BW. LOD did nothing story-wise for D2


well baal just disappearing off into wherever wouldve been a pretty big plot thread to leave hanging around

It would have been a great way to pick up in the sequel.

Instead they have to convolute some strange story like they've got now because LoD tied up D2's loose ends.
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zJayy962
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1363 Posts
May 11 2012 03:41 GMT
#6864
On May 11 2012 12:07 Terranasaur wrote:
Only expansion blizz ever made that ACTUALLY told a good story was BW. LOD did nothing story-wise for D2

Tyrael smashes the world stone? We don't know the implications of that event but it mustve been a big deal.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 03:47:53
May 11 2012 03:45 GMT
#6865
thought crossed my mind that I'll probably be spoilered if I group with randoms, so looks like I'll be playing normal solo
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Deadlyhazard
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1177 Posts
May 11 2012 05:00 GMT
#6866
On May 11 2012 12:07 Terranasaur wrote:
Only expansion blizz ever made that ACTUALLY told a good story was BW. LOD did nothing story-wise for D2

The only game they've made with decent writing was Brood War. Blizzard has always had mediocre stories and lore.
Hark!
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 05:29:33
May 11 2012 05:29 GMT
#6867
On May 11 2012 14:00 Deadlyhazard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 12:07 Terranasaur wrote:
Only expansion blizz ever made that ACTUALLY told a good story was BW. LOD did nothing story-wise for D2

The only game they've made with decent writing was Brood War. Blizzard has always had mediocre stories and lore.


It's true. Blizzard's plotlines are awful cheese.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
May 11 2012 05:58 GMT
#6868
The lore behind all their games is incredible. You guys are very hard to please. In terms of "awful cheese" what story isn't? You can't have a happy story without a cheesing ending. Unless you want to win the game just to have everything crash down on you because the story has a bad ending.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 06:30:06
May 11 2012 06:26 GMT
#6869
On May 11 2012 14:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
The lore behind all their games is incredible. You guys are very hard to please. In terms of "awful cheese" what story isn't? You can't have a happy story without a cheesing ending. Unless you want to win the game just to have everything crash down on you because the story has a bad ending.


None of this is true...

I mean, where to start? Let's break it down sentence by sentence:

- The lore is cheesy and cliche
- I am not hard to please
- There are many, many stories that aren't awful cheese. Less true in video games because making an effort to get good writers is a relatively recent innovation, but still quite a few.
- Of course you can have a happy ending without a cheesy ending, are you serious? That is staggering ignorance.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Cuh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States403 Posts
May 11 2012 06:55 GMT
#6870
First off who gives a fuck about story? You want story, read a book. this games about getting the godly roll on godly gear.
MarineKing | Nestea | MC
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 06:56:53
May 11 2012 06:56 GMT
#6871
On May 11 2012 15:26 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 14:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
The lore behind all their games is incredible. You guys are very hard to please. In terms of "awful cheese" what story isn't? You can't have a happy story without a cheesing ending. Unless you want to win the game just to have everything crash down on you because the story has a bad ending.


None of this is true...

I mean, where to start? Let's break it down sentence by sentence:

- The lore is cheesy and cliche
- I am not hard to please
- There are many, many stories that aren't awful cheese. Less true in video games because making an effort to get good writers is a relatively recent innovation, but still quite a few.
- Of course you can have a happy ending without a cheesy ending, are you serious? That is staggering ignorance.

Care to provide examples that prove your points?

Only one I can remember is PS:T, and even there we saw a cheesy beggining. The standard "i dont remember anything!".

Also note that Diablo isn't really story driven, it's action first, story second.
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
May 11 2012 07:48 GMT
#6872
On May 11 2012 15:26 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 14:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
The lore behind all their games is incredible. You guys are very hard to please. In terms of "awful cheese" what story isn't? You can't have a happy story without a cheesing ending. Unless you want to win the game just to have everything crash down on you because the story has a bad ending.


None of this is true...

I mean, where to start? Let's break it down sentence by sentence:

- The lore is cheesy and cliche
- I am not hard to please
- There are many, many stories that aren't awful cheese. Less true in video games because making an effort to get good writers is a relatively recent innovation, but still quite a few.
- Of course you can have a happy ending without a cheesy ending, are you serious? That is staggering ignorance.


Ya. I'm with you Usnip. Obviously gameplay comes first, but I have played many, many games with great stories that have kept me coming back. This is ESPECIALLY TRUE for the RPG genre. The fact that Broodwar had such an awesome (top 5 video game story all time) story is proof to me that even with an unfriendly to good storytelling game type, Blizz could make something beautiful. This really should be easier for them to do with Diablo.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
May 11 2012 07:51 GMT
#6873
What's up with hating Blizzard lore all of a sudden, I mean it's not Bioware-level but it's still really good
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 08:01:08
May 11 2012 08:00 GMT
#6874
On May 11 2012 15:56 Andr3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 15:26 UniversalSnip wrote:
On May 11 2012 14:58 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
The lore behind all their games is incredible. You guys are very hard to please. In terms of "awful cheese" what story isn't? You can't have a happy story without a cheesing ending. Unless you want to win the game just to have everything crash down on you because the story has a bad ending.


None of this is true...

I mean, where to start? Let's break it down sentence by sentence:

- The lore is cheesy and cliche
- I am not hard to please
- There are many, many stories that aren't awful cheese. Less true in video games because making an effort to get good writers is a relatively recent innovation, but still quite a few.
- Of course you can have a happy ending without a cheesy ending, are you serious? That is staggering ignorance.

Care to provide examples that prove your points?

Only one I can remember is PS:T, and even there we saw a cheesy beggining. The standard "i dont remember anything!".


Anything that starts with a P, haha, planescape torment, psychonauts, portal, portal 2 for example

I didn't say anywhere this detracted from the game, but any idea that blizzard has a continued history of good writing is illusory
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
May 11 2012 08:07 GMT
#6875
On May 11 2012 16:51 HaXXspetten wrote:
What's up with hating Blizzard lore all of a sudden, I mean it's not Bioware-level but it's still really good


About the time they introduced a race of damn pandas into WoW
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
SnoWhiTe
Profile Joined January 2011
France121 Posts
May 11 2012 08:18 GMT
#6876
On May 11 2012 17:07 Terranasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 16:51 HaXXspetten wrote:
What's up with hating Blizzard lore all of a sudden, I mean it's not Bioware-level but it's still really good


About the time they introduced a race of damn pandas into WoW


It was wayyyy before. All they've done since WOTLK regardless the lore is bad.
But you can't compare things you add to make a MMO live longer and a game like D3 ou SC2. I agree that Brood War is better in the storyline than SC2 but it's not that bad tho.
W3 and Frozen Thorn were damn good, and we have to wait the two expansions of SC2 to be sure. Also Blizzard can totally rely on their cinematics to tell their stories, even a bad story look awesome on CG :>
boppel
Profile Joined March 2012
140 Posts
May 11 2012 10:59 GMT
#6877
i hate blizzard for letting me wait 3 more days
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 11 2012 11:41 GMT
#6878
i suppose there is gonna be a day 1 patch right? does anyone know ~ how big it should be?
im scared because my internet sucks and a patch thats huge could possibly keep me from starting asap
Ahzz
Profile Joined May 2007
Finland780 Posts
May 11 2012 11:45 GMT
#6879
On May 11 2012 20:41 paschl wrote:
i suppose there is gonna be a day 1 patch right? does anyone know ~ how big it should be?
im scared because my internet sucks and a patch thats huge could possibly keep me from starting asap

If your internet is slow to the point where 9 hours of download time isn't enough to DL it, then you probably cant even play the game.
patch gets released 8 AM PST if I remember correct. servers launch 16 hours after that, or european servers 9ish hours
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
May 11 2012 11:49 GMT
#6880
On May 11 2012 20:45 Ahzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 20:41 paschl wrote:
i suppose there is gonna be a day 1 patch right? does anyone know ~ how big it should be?
im scared because my internet sucks and a patch thats huge could possibly keep me from starting asap

If your internet is slow to the point where 9 hours of download time isn't enough to DL it, then you probably cant even play the game.
patch gets released 8 AM PST if I remember correct. servers launch 16 hours after that, or european servers 9ish hours


meh, i can download ~800mb/hour if i get full speed so i should probably be ok unless the servers are massively overloaded right?
i didnt play the beta so i have no idea what size of patch to expect.
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