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Gokey
Profile Joined November 2006
United States2722 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 16:03:49
May 30 2010 16:00 GMT
#5061
On May 31 2010 00:11 Soloside wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2010 22:21 Roflhaxx wrote:
Is there going to be another tourney any time soon?


I'll gladly set another one up with Gozey or anyone else if people are interested.

We can aim for another tourney next Saturday afternoon to evening (Eastern time). A few changes will be implemented, which will be posted soon.

I'm also thinking of making a separate thread on this forum for the tournament, instead of having the posts being buried with the other discussions with LoL.

Btw, any suggestions/comments are welcome. Also, everyone who is interested in helping to organize are welcome to message me either in game or on this forum.

It'd be really nice if we can get a few people who can stream on Livestream or something too... Can have people watch the matches over the stream, like what phr0st did for the Team RadJacob vs Hiro game.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 30 2010 16:05 GMT
#5062
I didn't play cause I'm too good for you guys and didn't want to break the tourney for everyone, lol. I mean, I'd just feel so bad about cutting LoL careers short by making people quit after getting raped by my pantheon.

seriously though, I'm just usually busy with non-vidjo games on weekends. seeing my family this weekend, going to jamaica for the next two... And when I am gaming for weekends, it's usually smash tournaments and then I'll LoL afterwards.

whoever asked for some solo mid 1v1s though, just PM SmashGizmo the next time you see me on and I'll solo mid 1v1 with Pantheon whenever. I'd love to see someone expose some weaknesses in my solomid game because I've just been abusive at it recently and I don't feel like I'm getting any better any more.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
May 30 2010 17:11 GMT
#5063
i should try soraka mid vs you sometime mog lol
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 30 2010 20:37 GMT
#5064
matchup's tricky but perfectly doable. her silence is gay.
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oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
May 30 2010 20:54 GMT
#5065
On May 31 2010 05:37 Mogwai wrote:
matchup's tricky but perfectly doable. her silence is gay.


Solo mid is one matchup where I'd feel pretty good with Fiddle vs. Pantheon. Are there any champs you consider a hard counter?
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
May 30 2010 21:04 GMT
#5066
My only complaint is that blind pick is really silly

exclusive draft imo
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 21:31:22
May 30 2010 21:22 GMT
#5067
pantheon vs. fiddle hasn't actually come up for me, we should play it out sometime. In theorycrafting, I actually think pantheon would just win the war of attrition vs. Fiddle because he's doing better harass with less mana, but Fiddle should be good about not just dying to his burst at level 3 with double disable. Then again, I thought that's what sivir would be like too, but in action, she's just fucked because you just get too close for her to see your jump coming in time to shield it and she's dead.

as for hard counters, I'm still yet to feel helpless vs. anyone. I think the worst matchups are Karthus and Katarina and maybe Heimer (hasn't come up in awhile). Against all of them, I think you can still compete just fine with a red elixir, but I think those and the mirror match are the only ones that really require it. The common ones like Ashe, Ez, and Annie all feel really easy to win with boots.

EDIT: forgot to mention, Janna's pretty tough. red elixir makes it a lot easier, but I'm still 100% convinced I can win it with boots if I don't fuck up.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11766 Posts
May 30 2010 22:18 GMT
#5068
Fortitude Pantheon is a pretty hard-counter to him when he opens Boots first expecting an Ashe.

o/
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 30 2010 22:22 GMT
#5069
yea, but if you're as awesome as me, you can trick them into tower diving with your defensive masteries, then stun them and get fb, lawl.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11766 Posts
May 30 2010 22:24 GMT
#5070
I don't know if that's you being awesome or them being crappy, because if I remember correctly he ended 2-7 or something. Hallmark of a great Pantheon.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 30 2010 22:27 GMT
#5071
if you die first as Pantheon, you'll probably end up doing more harm than good by continuing to play.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11766 Posts
May 30 2010 22:30 GMT
#5072
Hahah, well in fairness he went 2-1 with a DK on you and WRAW and caught up, but he didn't capitalize cause he sucked, that's all.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-30 22:33:56
May 30 2010 22:33 GMT
#5073
well, he was too far back as of that fb. he only managed to stay relevant for the next 10 minutes by pumping elixirs, but this left him with like, SotO (or some other mid level AD item, can't remember which exactly) + boots when I had SotO, boots, Brutalizer and BF Sword. I dunno, that DK didn't get him back in the game IMO cause he channeled so much money into the temporary means to make it possible. his item build was still really far behind mine after it, even if he was 2-1 to my 1-1 at that one moment in time (I was up a long sword and boots at that point).
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 30 2010 23:16 GMT
#5074
On May 30 2010 11:19 ichangedmyname wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2010 11:16 Ota Solgryn wrote:
Wow, just had a game where there were 3 kills after 35 minutes. Guess I'm starting to get into higher elo?


Nope. You are just playing with idiots.

Missed this one, hopefully I will be around for the next one.

Actually no, that's how a lot of the games go when I 5 man premade with good players. You don't know the team comp or the lane matchups so how can you say he's playing with idiots?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
May 30 2010 23:29 GMT
#5075
On May 31 2010 06:22 Mogwai wrote:
pantheon vs. fiddle hasn't actually come up for me, we should play it out sometime. In theorycrafting, I actually think pantheon would just win the war of attrition vs. Fiddle because he's doing better harass with less mana, but Fiddle should be good about not just dying to his burst at level 3 with double disable. Then again, I thought that's what sivir would be like too, but in action, she's just fucked because you just get too close for her to see your jump coming in time to shield it and she's dead.

as for hard counters, I'm still yet to feel helpless vs. anyone. I think the worst matchups are Karthus and Katarina and maybe Heimer (hasn't come up in awhile). Against all of them, I think you can still compete just fine with a red elixir, but I think those and the mirror match are the only ones that really require it. The common ones like Ashe, Ez, and Annie all feel really easy to win with boots.

EDIT: forgot to mention, Janna's pretty tough. red elixir makes it a lot easier, but I'm still 100% convinced I can win it with boots if I don't fuck up.


I don't like to mid with Fiddle, because he's so vulnerable to so many heros. That said, he should be pretty solid against melee bursters (Panth, Kat) in theory, since he can throw a fear on them, then drain as they slowly run away.

Sivir hates melee bursters. Jump/shunpo are way too fast to shield, and she just gets pushed out of lane. She likes AP harassers -- Karthus is a special favorite, as lay waste can be shielded, he has trouble dodging BB, and his ult can be shielded as well. Plus, Sivir wins the 1v1 auto-attack fight with him.

Heimer is an incredible pain mid unless you outrange his turrets, and then he's cake. Neither of my mains outrange his turrets. I actually think Heimer is far more playable in a drafted game, since you can last-pick him against teams with no counter, then push ultra hard and roll them. In blind pick, though, he's kinda garbage, because you'll see Tristanas, Mordes, and other counters too often.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 30 2010 23:53 GMT
#5076
Wow so many server problems can't even log in. Before I logged out no one in liquidparty was in game and I couldn't start one (que's were too long).

Is the server down for any one?
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
sleeepy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada777 Posts
May 30 2010 23:55 GMT
#5077
Yeah I can't get in either. Logging in for 2 minutes and then it crashes.
Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
May 30 2010 23:57 GMT
#5078
On May 31 2010 06:04 Phrost wrote:
My only complaint is that blind pick is really silly

exclusive draft imo

pick isnt blind when you got stream on! :D
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
May 31 2010 00:09 GMT
#5079
On May 31 2010 08:57 Roflhaxx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2010 06:04 Phrost wrote:
My only complaint is that blind pick is really silly

exclusive draft imo

pick isnt blind when you got stream on! :D


Just to be clear, our (RadJacob's) team chose champions before the stream was up, and I made sure everyone turned it off (not even on in the background) before game.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
May 31 2010 00:11 GMT
#5080
No, you obviously cheated in a community run tournament with no prize money.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
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