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We have created an irc channel (#tl-smash on Quakenet) for people to find others to play with on Dolphin or just to chat about Smash. Feel free to join!
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
October 24 2009 23:02 GMT
#101
On October 25 2009 07:52 igotmyown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2009 00:03 Zoler wrote:
armada is crazy fucking insane





What's amazing about this?


yea, it's totally underwhelming if you don't understand it like me
And all is illuminated.
Phrujbaz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Netherlands512 Posts
October 25 2009 00:41 GMT
#102


Caution! Future approaching rapidly at a rate of about 60 seconds per minute.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
October 25 2009 02:22 GMT
#103
yep that one's pretty sick haha
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6228 Posts
October 25 2009 02:52 GMT
#104
On October 25 2009 08:02 freelander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2009 07:52 igotmyown wrote:
On October 18 2009 00:03 Zoler wrote:
armada is crazy fucking insane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4ZmuDHo2Bs



What's amazing about this?


yea, it's totally underwhelming if you don't understand it like me



Peach has a low chance on her down B ability to pull a "stitchface" turnip from the ground, that does massive damage (i think 26ish?). A regular turnip only does like 2 damage. It's like a 1/100 chance to pull it. This player got it, and was able to use it successfully three times in a row by catching it over and over.
good vibes only
Kaialynn
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States242 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-25 03:41:57
October 25 2009 03:27 GMT
#105
On October 25 2009 11:52 Meta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2009 08:02 freelander wrote:
On October 25 2009 07:52 igotmyown wrote:
On October 18 2009 00:03 Zoler wrote:
armada is crazy fucking insane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4ZmuDHo2Bs



What's amazing about this?


yea, it's totally underwhelming if you don't understand it like me



Peach has a low chance on her down B ability to pull a "stitchface" turnip from the ground, that does massive damage (i think 26ish?). A regular turnip only does like 2 damage. It's like a 1/100 chance to pull it. This player got it, and was able to use it successfully three times in a row by catching it over and over.


36 damage and huge knockback.

Keep in mind this is also in the grand finals of a tournament where 2000+ dollars were on the line.

Also, like stated, catching it and hitting with it ALL 3 times is like o.o

An enormous amount of skill combined with a ton of luck = win. I'm trying to think of a good comparison.

I think a good one was when Jaedong did that proxy hatchery on Hwasin(?) on Destination(?) right by his base and then proceeded to own him with hidden expo + hidden tech.

Not the greatest but i think it it gets to the point.

EDIT:

36, not 34 damage. My bad.
R u for rela?
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
October 25 2009 03:56 GMT
#106
On October 25 2009 12:27 Kaialynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2009 11:52 Meta wrote:
On October 25 2009 08:02 freelander wrote:
On October 25 2009 07:52 igotmyown wrote:
On October 18 2009 00:03 Zoler wrote:
armada is crazy fucking insane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4ZmuDHo2Bs



What's amazing about this?


yea, it's totally underwhelming if you don't understand it like me



Peach has a low chance on her down B ability to pull a "stitchface" turnip from the ground, that does massive damage (i think 26ish?). A regular turnip only does like 2 damage. It's like a 1/100 chance to pull it. This player got it, and was able to use it successfully three times in a row by catching it over and over.


36 damage and huge knockback.

Keep in mind this is also in the grand finals of a tournament where 2000+ dollars were on the line.

Also, like stated, catching it and hitting with it ALL 3 times is like o.o

An enormous amount of skill combined with a ton of luck = win. I'm trying to think of a good comparison.

I think a good one was when Jaedong did that proxy hatchery on Hwasin(?) on Destination(?) right by his base and then proceeded to own him with hidden expo + hidden tech.

Not the greatest but i think it it gets to the point.

EDIT:

36, not 34 damage. My bad.


Yeah, that's exactly what I saw, what we call the smash turnip. I wouldn't call it insane; catching your own turnip isn't the hardest thing to do. The way I saw it, peach got lucky and did some solid but basic play to capitalize. That's my opinion, and it personally didn't rate with things like seeing Captain Jack play for the first time.
_hate
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Japan112 Posts
October 25 2009 08:46 GMT
#107
On October 25 2009 08:02 freelander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2009 07:52 igotmyown wrote:
On October 18 2009 00:03 Zoler wrote:
armada is crazy fucking insane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4ZmuDHo2Bs



What's amazing about this?


yea, it's totally underwhelming if you don't understand it like me

he hit mango
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
October 25 2009 15:04 GMT
#108
On October 25 2009 17:46 _hate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2009 08:02 freelander wrote:
On October 25 2009 07:52 igotmyown wrote:
On October 18 2009 00:03 Zoler wrote:
armada is crazy fucking insane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4ZmuDHo2Bs



What's amazing about this?


yea, it's totally underwhelming if you don't understand it like me

he hit mango


The crazy thing is that he killed mango easy like that it wouldnt be amazing against any other player, see it now?
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
traced
Profile Joined October 2007
1739 Posts
October 31 2009 23:17 GMT
#109
TL.net Bot TL.net. October 20 2009 16:03. Posts 1 PM Profile Quote
cwjalex was just banned by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2009-07-19 05:27:04 and had 49 posts.

Reason: I honestly don't know how you've made it this far; probably one of the more juvenile posters in recent memory whose completely full of himself - and that's saying a lot for this website. For someone so high and mighty, and so incredibly judgemental, saying things like:

"go away whiny emo. you guys are like 5 year olds that stamp their feet because they don't get their way. Why not try being big boys and have a calm discussion with actual arguments."

"Evidently most people on Team Liquid don't have a passion for music...which shows the lack of well roundedness around here. Music is one of the highest forms of artistic expression but people here would rather discuss jaedong's nickname...or talk endlessly about race imbalance."

"wow, must take a lot of talent to be able to get shit-faced and use tons of drugs all the time. Have fun now because in 10-15 years your body is going to look like it has aged 30 yea Don't listen to this idiot people."

"I've spoken to the dean of boston university as well as professor of sociology from harvard about this and they have found it to be interesting...and what credentials do you hold?"

"you are right evan. it's just childish how he resorts to personal attacks when he has run out of ideas. This kid is probably like 17 and takes this game way too seriously"

"wow fanatacist and probe, u guys are definitely in love...following me to post back to back...it's really adorable."

"wow, must be nice to have some fan-boy finish your arguments. Way to be real mature and start name calling. Grow up. I'm sorry that you're toss isn't good enough to beat zerg. All I was calling for was for some moderation and that ZvP wasn't AS IMBALANCED as people thought. I didn't say it was even or that P has an advantage. Don't be so disgruntled because you suck PvZ."

"stop getting mad little girl and argue with your ideas and not your emotion."


Does not exactly lend you a lot of credibility. In summation, get the fuck over yourself, and get away Last edit: 2009-10-20 16:04:56
from our website. Thank you.

ahahha

alex used to be one of the best in mass

nice guy in person, at least
Boxman
Profile Joined July 2009
United States19 Posts
November 02 2009 05:26 GMT
#110
I've met cwjalex. He was pretty good, cool too.
Improbable
Profile Joined March 2003
United States54 Posts
November 03 2009 02:07 GMT
#111
ooh, just saw this thread, don't lurk here enough anymore.

Main: Marth
Active: on and off since 06
location: Southern Vermont

I've been playing casually on and off for a couple years, always worked to get better, learned my shffling, wavedashing and whatnot but never had anyone very good to play against or travel to tournaments with (no scene in western mass/vt). Recently had an influx of competitive smashers at marlboro college, whoda thunk it, so I've been working on my game. Attended my first tourney, super mass brothers, a few weeks back. It was fun to get my ass handed to me. Think I saw boxman there, though I don't think we played.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
November 03 2009 19:24 GMT
#112
On November 02 2009 14:26 Boxman wrote:
I've met cwjalex. He was pretty good, cool too.


Do you mean CW and Jalex?
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
November 08 2009 23:07 GMT
#113


A video of me playing friend, we both suck xD
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
November 08 2009 23:53 GMT
#114
lol nice Zoler.
ThatGuy
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada695 Posts
November 09 2009 00:13 GMT
#115
Just played a lot of Melee this weekend, tried out my new Falco against Bam/Vwins/pkmvodka/chesterr01/Kage/Matt/Pest. Cruel and unusual punishment.
gamecrazy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States421 Posts
November 09 2009 01:20 GMT
#116
gg zoler nice edgehogs

You might want to short hop a little more though. Someone correct me if this is wrong but i think shiek can regrab marth after a d-throw at low percents into some f-tilts.
traced
Profile Joined October 2007
1739 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-09 06:36:10
November 09 2009 06:35 GMT
#117
he can regrab at around 20-40 damage i think. don't remember what the safe ftlits and fair %s are.

here's my advice, zoler:

sheik v marth is all about marth keeping sheik outside/getting her in the air and into combos. sheik is about getting inside grab/tilt/jab range and using her ridiculous speed and combo ability.

the way you're approaching marth is slow, telegraphed high jumps into backairs with small hitboxes, or dash attacks. dash attacks are good, but your movement needs to disguise them better, and to have the dash attack effective you need to have threat of a running grab, either jump cancelled or dash-attack cancelled. short hops attacks, l-cancelled into jabs or grabs are good but both come with a great deal of risk, and you kind of need to get a feel for when to use them.

essentially, you need to find the marth's rhythm, find the hole in his fair/ground game, and then punish him severely.
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
November 09 2009 07:03 GMT
#118
ye + wavedashing is a bonus as well. Rolls get predicatable too I notice you roll a lot.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
November 09 2009 07:16 GMT
#119
sheik or fox vs marth guide:
grab -> win
doesnt matter if you're the sheik/fox or the marth
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
November 09 2009 08:53 GMT
#120
Thanks for all advices, people I'll continue to play and soon it's time for SVAR8 (Smash Varberg 8), and hopefully Swedens 5th best Randomness (and best captain falcon) will coach me some, wohoo ^^

On November 09 2009 10:20 gamecrazy67 wrote:
gg zoler nice edgehogs

You might want to short hop a little more though. Someone correct me if this is wrong but i think shiek can regrab marth after a d-throw at low percents into some f-tilts.


Yeah, tho remember I play on PAL version, Sheiks dthrow isn't "broken" here as we call it in Europe, hehe. It's much harder to do in PAL. Dthrow to ftilt isn't possible in PAL for example, tho you can techchase of course into grab or whatever.



Lim Yo Hwan forever!
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