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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
July 24 2016 20:17 GMT
#3621
I'm a Falco main with a decent grab on advanced tech, but there's one thing I haven't been able to figure out and that is shine OoS. I know this may seem like a silly question because to act out of shield you just need to jump out, but I cannot figure out the fastest way to shine OoS. What are some methods that you guys use?
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19258 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 00:13:50
July 25 2016 00:13 GMT
#3622
claw grip? I just use my thumb. It took a shitload of practice to get it down without hitting A when dropping Y->B. Also, using Y for jump. Or alternately using up but I found that harder because I'd usually just firebird or firefox
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 25 2016 02:04 GMT
#3623
Yeah just practice going from Y to B really fast. It's basically just a multishine but while shielding and with only 1 b press.
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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 25 2016 07:36 GMT
#3624
you can also buffer a jump out of your shield with the c stick
i dont play spacies and some people i know use that method and others dislike it because it can be ugly with unexpected amounts of shieldstun
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19258 Posts
July 25 2016 12:39 GMT
#3625
yeah if there's any stun at all what you end up doing is is just joos
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 20:17:29
July 25 2016 20:17 GMT
#3626
Is smash out of shield just Shield->Up to cancel shield->A?

(im a noob)
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19258 Posts
July 25 2016 21:10 GMT
#3627
yes, but hitstun strikes again and you can end up doing a nair, or if you're slow you'll do uair.
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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 26 2016 03:33 GMT
#3628
yea or you can slam both sticks upwards while in shield
its basically the same thing, you jump oos with the control stick and usmash out of your jumpsquat with c stick
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
August 20 2016 19:32 GMT
#3629
Too bad the "General Event/LR Thread" thread is still closed. No place to talk about Heir III.
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6786 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-25 21:53:54
August 25 2016 21:41 GMT
#3630
Lets just do it here then!
I went and it was fucking amazing. Their slogan is no lie, it's more than a tournament. Almost feels like a smash festival or something. The location is just absolutely amazing and you're either playing smash or partying.

I went to Heir 2, promised I'd bring a belgian crew and we delivered We took 2 stocks off england (our 15 year old is a beast, he almost took out alphadash in the first game) but then BrTarolg just came in and techchased us all to smithereens. I had to go up against dev last game I think, got 4 stocked pretty easily. Swiss didn't have enough people sadly so we won by DQ. But then we were matched against USA ... chudat basically wobbled us all to hell lmao. We only took two stocks off of him. What a guy / troll.

We actually crewbattled vs Wales as a revenge for the eurocup. This was actually really hype, fun and way more closely matched. They've gotten a lot better since last year too. I sent in our new guy as a last pick vs a falco, he did some good stuff but we ended up losing to 2 stocks left. Didn't matter though, was great anyway

Overall 10/10 would recommend any european to go!

some pics here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/137346329@N07/
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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-26 02:56:30
August 26 2016 02:25 GMT
#3631
Shine is coming up soon! I won't be there but I helped seed a lot of it. I'm actually really looking forward to Friday, because there will be a ton of not very well-known but really skilled New England / Tri-state players playing their pools They don't have as much national exposure as some regions, so watch out for new or lesser-known players like:

MA: Squible, Klap$, dudutsai, Rime, Kyu Puff, Sora, BVB, BigFoig, BonkCushy, Mr. Lemon, Mr. Tuesday, Younger, Hart, PSI, Makari
NH: Infinite Numbers, Tian, Kalvar
CT: lint, Ambisinister, Fury, Admiral
RI: RyuCloud, Musgraves
VT: GSO, Seabass
NJ: C!Z, Zealous5000, Ryobeat, mayb, PudgyPanda, Son2, TheSWOOPER, Kevorkian, ADVANCED, Emanon
NY: iBDW, NY Joey, Vino, Young
PA: Stango, Bones, R2DLiu, BMC, Widl [actually from Norway]
Quebec: Legend, Tranimal

Three of New England's top four (Slox, Crush, Mafia) will be entering, missing only Zoso who will be there but isn't entering. Plus, there will be plenty of oldschool NE / Tri-state players like KDJ, Dazwa, th0rn, Swiftbass, KevinM, T. Webb, Nuro, and Hayato, along with Florida to New England transplants Liquid`Crunch and BluEG.

Most people only like to watch nationals for the top players, but I definitely encourage watching some of these listed players in R1 and R2 pools!
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46474 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-27 02:21:52
August 27 2016 02:11 GMT
#3632
SFAT in crews is basically the ultimate boss, but first lol

https://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp

He took off 12 stocks hahahaha

EDIT: He and SilentWolf from NorCal easily took out the entire team "NEU Falco Only" (even though the FO team played other characters too). Final score was 14-0 lmao.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46474 Posts
August 29 2016 02:04 GMT
#3633
SFAT, Mango, and M2K so sick.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
August 29 2016 02:15 GMT
#3634
Agreed. Great tournament. Mango vs SFAT was ridiculous, and M2K's Marth is on sparkling form which is so nice to see. GGs to everyone. =)
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 29 2016 02:32 GMT
#3635
Grats to M2K, his Marth vs spacies is still on point
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BrTarolg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom3574 Posts
August 29 2016 14:06 GMT
#3636
On August 26 2016 06:41 Xeofreestyler wrote:
Lets just do it here then!
I went and it was fucking amazing. Their slogan is no lie, it's more than a tournament. Almost feels like a smash festival or something. The location is just absolutely amazing and you're either playing smash or partying.

I went to Heir 2, promised I'd bring a belgian crew and we delivered We took 2 stocks off england (our 15 year old is a beast, he almost took out alphadash in the first game) but then BrTarolg just came in and techchased us all to smithereens. I had to go up against dev last game I think, got 4 stocked pretty easily. Swiss didn't have enough people sadly so we won by DQ. But then we were matched against USA ... chudat basically wobbled us all to hell lmao. We only took two stocks off of him. What a guy / troll.

We actually crewbattled vs Wales as a revenge for the eurocup. This was actually really hype, fun and way more closely matched. They've gotten a lot better since last year too. I sent in our new guy as a last pick vs a falco, he did some good stuff but we ended up losing to 2 stocks left. Didn't matter though, was great anyway

Overall 10/10 would recommend any european to go!

some pics here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/137346329@N07/


lmaooo im sorry i techased 11 stocks off you guys

i had a blast hanging out with y'all though
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-29 22:22:29
August 29 2016 22:20 GMT
#3637
On August 27 2016 11:11 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
SFAT in crews is basically the ultimate boss, but first lol

https://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp

He took off 12 stocks hahahaha

EDIT: He and SilentWolf from NorCal easily took out the entire team "NEU Falco Only" (even though the FO team played other characters too). Final score was 14-0 lmao.


Sheridan (Dr. Z) actually played insanely well during Norcal's last two crew battles, destroying Faceroll (rip ) and taking 4 from Axe / 1 from KJH against the Prince Squad.

Then he lost to Axe and Blahyay in bracket Good job Blahyay btw, with the best performance by a r1 pool 2 seed in tournament; he plays Sheik, and beat his 1 seed, Legend (Puff) the Kage slayer, in his r1 pool, lost to Ginger (Falco), then beat Vino (Marth) and Dr. Z (Puff) before falling to Abu. Super solid wins.

Overall pretty interesting tournament. Plup Fox is gonna be amazing. I wish I could see what happened in Nintendude vs Mango. Swedish beats Westballz as usual. Maybe we should look into sacrificing absolute ordering in seeding for less-often-played matchups.

SFAT played out of his mind, finally broke the Hbox choking curse (thanks Duck???) and should now be solidly considered #7 behind top 5 and Plup; no PP because he's inactive. As of now I'd only favor the top 5, Westballz, and maybe Plup['s Sheik/Samus] over SFAT.

Zealous5000 (Marth), lint (Falco), and Son2 (Falco) are all new up-and-comers who made top 48 (and look, I listed them in my post before Shine ) Look out for them in the future!

I think we did a mostly good job with the R1 singles/doubles pools seeding and crews seeding, though some of the 1 seeds I pushed for got upset :/ looking at you Emanon T_T

Most unfortunate bracket was probably Abu losing to Ginger and then Duck... sorry Abu.
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Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6786 Posts
August 30 2016 12:53 GMT
#3638
On August 29 2016 23:06 BrTarolg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2016 06:41 Xeofreestyler wrote:
Lets just do it here then!
I went and it was fucking amazing. Their slogan is no lie, it's more than a tournament. Almost feels like a smash festival or something. The location is just absolutely amazing and you're either playing smash or partying.

I went to Heir 2, promised I'd bring a belgian crew and we delivered We took 2 stocks off england (our 15 year old is a beast, he almost took out alphadash in the first game) but then BrTarolg just came in and techchased us all to smithereens. I had to go up against dev last game I think, got 4 stocked pretty easily. Swiss didn't have enough people sadly so we won by DQ. But then we were matched against USA ... chudat basically wobbled us all to hell lmao. We only took two stocks off of him. What a guy / troll.

We actually crewbattled vs Wales as a revenge for the eurocup. This was actually really hype, fun and way more closely matched. They've gotten a lot better since last year too. I sent in our new guy as a last pick vs a falco, he did some good stuff but we ended up losing to 2 stocks left. Didn't matter though, was great anyway

Overall 10/10 would recommend any european to go!

some pics here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/137346329@N07/


lmaooo im sorry i techased 11 stocks off you guys

i had a blast hanging out with y'all though


Hahah no hard feelings there man, was great seeing you again. Next time we'll try to take off a couple more stocks
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 06 2016 16:06 GMT
#3639
On August 30 2016 07:20 ]343[ wrote:
Zealous5000 (Marth), lint (Falco), and Son2 (Falco) are all new up-and-comers who made top 48 (and look, I listed them in my post before Shine ) Look out for them in the future!

Son2 is the best player in my area (Southern NJ) and his falco is siiiiick. Glad to see him do fairly well at a national.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
September 09 2016 02:53 GMT
#3640
Chillin posted a blog about his early days right here on TL: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/513751-history-of-a-smasher-chapter-i-azen-zagenite
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