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On April 08 2009 00:11 miseiler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2009 23:52 Blunderbore wrote:gj except "It is not a perfectly balanced game"  It is impossible to "perfectly balance" an unsymmetrical game. This is simply a fact. Even chess is unbalanced; white moves first. Only players can be balanced. On topic: brilliant. I love the dali artwork.
I think if you don't know which race is the "best", at professional levels at least, you can say the game is balanced.
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Sheer awesomeness. Amazing article.
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Beautiful work. Thank you. The pictures were pretty sweet too, just added to the overall impression of the article..
I must say I am scared of change. It's a bit odd, but I'm so into the SC scene right now that I honestly don't even care if SC2 comes out in 1 year, 2 years or 3 (ok maybe 3 is pushing it). But really, SC has become more of a spectator thing to me now and I simply play because I have learned so much from watching that it makes me want to get back into it. But honestly, as crazy as people think we are for "watching a video game," I don't even play that many games now that I'm "older" (22). I don't know how much time I'll have to play SC2, but I'll certainly make time to sit back with a cold beverage and watch a good FBH vs Jaedong match on ESPN, lol. 
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In chess it's true that white has a slight advantage, but the advantage can be distributed between two players in a series by alternating who starts off as which color. Unfortunately the same can't be said for SC.
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ummi disagree with the almost thing. if the game was even slightly off balance it would have collapsed when  BoxeR went into his slump. thats just my opinion anyway.
anyway... deep stuff there
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Though I found the article overly romantic and lacking "scientific precision", that is probably because I'm just a complete nerd, you're very good at writing this kind of thing. It's just that you treat too many of your hopes and wishes as truths that gives the article a little bit of naive feeling from me and bothers me a bit when reading it.
Starcraft was a fluke, even Blizzard admitted it many times that so many important features of the game, for both the excitement and the balance were mere unintended bugs. You try to make too much out of a simple combination of events that happened to be in the right place at the right time.
But you do it with class non the less. Still a great writing.
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On April 09 2009 13:15 VIB wrote:
Though I found the article overly romantic and lacking "scientific precision", that is probably because I'm just a complete nerd, you're very good at writing this kind of thing. It's just that you treat too many of your hopes and wishes as truths that gives the article a little bit of naive feeling from me and bothers me a bit when reading it.
Starcraft was a fluke, even Blizzard admitted it many times that so many important features of the game, for both the excitement and the balance were mere unintended bugs. You try to make too much out of a simple combination of events that happened to be in the right place at the right time.
But you do it with class non the less. Still a great writing.
Exactly my thoughts. This topic kinda reminds me of the south park episode where everyone buys hybrids, and are so much in love with themselves they like their own fart. Stop comparing a video game with paintings ugh.
Edit: BTW, my favorite RTS ever is Starcraft, like probably 90% of people here on TeamLiquid, but those kind of posts, imo, push it pretty far.
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I wish I could write like that. Hats off to you :D
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On April 08 2009 23:59 DamageControL wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2009 00:11 miseiler wrote:On April 07 2009 23:52 Blunderbore wrote:gj except "It is not a perfectly balanced game" It is impossible to "perfectly balance" an unsymmetrical game. This is simply a fact. Even chess is unbalanced; white moves first. Only players can be balanced. On topic: brilliant. I love the dali artwork. I think if you don't know which race is the "best", at professional levels at least, you can say the game is balanced.
For sure. One can never be sure if there are just better players in a particular race, either. Sometimes when a map at first favours one race, and then a new strategy is developed we see it go the complete opposite way (ZvT Monty Hall). In Professional StarCraft, the better player will always win an important series. Like Flash on Katrina hahahha.
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On April 12 2009 00:43 Chef wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2009 23:59 DamageControL wrote:On April 08 2009 00:11 miseiler wrote:On April 07 2009 23:52 Blunderbore wrote:gj except "It is not a perfectly balanced game" It is impossible to "perfectly balance" an unsymmetrical game. This is simply a fact. Even chess is unbalanced; white moves first. Only players can be balanced. On topic: brilliant. I love the dali artwork. I think if you don't know which race is the "best", at professional levels at least, you can say the game is balanced. For sure. One can never be sure if there are just better players in a particular race, either. Sometimes when a map at first favours one race, and then a new strategy is developed we see it go the complete opposite way (ZvT Monty Hall). In Professional StarCraft, the better player will always win an important series. Like Flash on Katrina hahahha.
The balance is just so close, that you can't determine it. Protoss may be overpowered, but by so little its still 50-50. And that is either increased, decreased, or evened out depending on the maps, which are changing every season. Therefore, it is impossible to tell exactly if one race is more powerful than another.
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