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Elgar
Profile Joined May 2007
United States231 Posts
December 28 2007 16:02 GMT
#41
Lovely article, I really enjoyed reading it. Can't help but chuckle at the little Bisu part.

"At last, we will have revenge."
Pain, fear leaving the body. Pride, what your team is made of.
intotherainx
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States504 Posts
December 28 2007 16:10 GMT
#42
for some reason it is hard to mentally accept jaedong, who seems like a kid, to replace savior...
iloveGG
Profile Joined October 2006
United Kingdom14 Posts
December 28 2007 16:33 GMT
#43
a perfect article.


although i like Stork more -_-!
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
December 28 2007 17:59 GMT
#44
T_T Beautiful write-up. MORE PLZ.

"Through exhaustive historical analysis I have concluded that if Blue Storm was actually early 1940s Eurasia, the third Zerg gas would be Moscow, the Protoss would be the Germans, and the adrenal upgrade would be the Russian Winter."

So true xD
Peace~
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
December 28 2007 18:02 GMT
#45
6/5 article, these FFs are awesome.
demonic_phate
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States442 Posts
December 28 2007 18:23 GMT
#46
Awesome
I like the whole sithiness of it all
great article and very well written
BusyP
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
December 28 2007 18:40 GMT
#47
Whoooaaa!!!

This is first class work, good job!

But I somehow don't see JaeDong the next Bonjwa.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
ilovesAviOr
Profile Joined December 2007
Canada1 Post
December 28 2007 18:54 GMT
#48
AMAZING ANALYSIS...Jaedong's ZvT and ZvZ is ASS PWNAGNAGE! But like you said, in order for Jaedong to be the next Zerg Emperor, he have to step up his ZvP. I really can't see that he can beat sAviOr's peak 83% win rate in ZvP.

P.S. He sorta got cream puff opponents in the OSL. Light[alive] wasn't as sharp as Bisu or sAviOr, and Upmagic is useless against zergs (his career win rate is below 50%...) and Stork don't even have a 51% ZvP yet... Jaedong also managed to avoid Hwasin or Bisu, the zerg killers of the OSL. So all in all, it only takes one strong PvZ toss player to knock Jaedong out of the tornament.
sAviOr > all
JensOfSweden
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Cameroon1767 Posts
December 28 2007 19:03 GMT
#49
Niiiice article!

I thought the finals were quite boring though and Stork didn't play very good. But Jaedong did some cool stuff, like the muta/scourge thing and evo/evo block.
<3 Nada [On and off TL.net since 2002
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
December 28 2007 19:06 GMT
#50
“Jaedong hugs his mother aww such a good son. He’s crying. She’s crying. Everyone melts.”

the vid shows hugging his coach.
Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
December 28 2007 19:13 GMT
#51
Sexy article Hot :D
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
December 28 2007 19:49 GMT
#52
Hat off, Hot_Bid. Great article!
ModeratorFather of bunnies
.dragoon
Profile Joined May 2007
United States749 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-28 21:10:03
December 28 2007 20:05 GMT
#53
On December 28 2007 21:00 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2007 19:10 .dragoon wrote:
...
The only thing I'd say marred jaedong's osl victory was the relative ease of his bracket and most of all the map pool. He cruised through an all-terran left bracket on a mind-numbing set of maps. He lost twice to Stork on Persona. Although he stepped up games 2-4, Jaedong's still not quite proven himself yet, and he's still miles behind Maestro in opinion polls.
...

You can't count his bracket against him. Yes, Light-Hwasin-Bisu would've been harder, but it's not LJD's fault that Hwasin and Bisu couldn't take care of business.

Savior may have had a harder road if GoRush beat Much, and GGPlay would've had a harder road if he had to play Bisu instead of Flash.

You can't fault a player for someone else's inability to win. Up and Stork earned their places.

Plus we get to see JD play Bisu in the MSL soon

I'm not taking anything away from Up and Stork. Quite the opposite, my love for these two are unquestionable (especially UpMagiC). Both played great great sets against great players to advance. That TvT on katrina vs Hwasin, the pvp on persona vs Bisu, mamma mia!

I'm saying the entire left-bracket was terran except leejaedong, so there wasn't a single chance for JD to face a non-terran before the final. With many advantages on his side, his trip to the final was never in doubt. That makes it a lot less inpressive than, say, shinhan3 where Savior overcame all odds to knock out a red hot Nada.

While GGPlay played all-terran also, that was genuinely due to non-terran's inability to advance. That final was really something: There was a very palpable sense of reversal in game 3, where GGPlay danced his mutas on a razor's edge and came back with the skin on his teeth to win. Game 4 was a giant leap of faith, which emptied directly into Game 5 - a repeat of Game 1 except with everything done faster, coordinated better, stronger resource management and tighter unit control.
If you can, then do. If I can, I will.
allowicious
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States972 Posts
December 28 2007 20:07 GMT
#54
wow, one of best articles ive read in a while
partly b/c jaedong is my favorite player ^^
lalalalala~~~
TaDa1.
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
655 Posts
December 28 2007 20:09 GMT
#55
this is awesome, finally savior has had a worthy heir go Lee Jae Dong, destroy the revolution!!
sos bomber stork savior fan ^ http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/5160596/1/WXZ/achievements/category/4377898
ZergZoul
Profile Joined April 2007
Mexico408 Posts
December 28 2007 21:03 GMT
#56
Oh man, I'm getting addicted to this writings, More!...sssstt ahhh yeah!
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
December 28 2007 21:09 GMT
#57
HOLY SHIT THIS ARTICLE IS DEFINITELY 10/10!

Fuck hot bid youre amazing. <3
FOOL! Pain is my friend! Now let me introduce you to it!
omgbnetsux
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States3749 Posts
December 28 2007 21:19 GMT
#58
Nice article.
spetial
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States688 Posts
December 28 2007 21:25 GMT
#59
amazing article! very well done!
metal_survive @ uswest
ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
December 28 2007 21:46 GMT
#60
On December 29 2007 06:09 blagoonga123 wrote:
HOLY SHIT THIS ARTICLE IS DEFINITELY 10/10!

Fuck hot bid youre amazing. <3
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
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