• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 20:55
CET 02:55
KST 10:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book15Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)12Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker8PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)12Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2
StarCraft 2
General
Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth Mutation # 510 Safety Violation
Brood War
General
ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 Gypsy to Korea Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War Recent recommended BW games [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Sex and weight loss
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ADHD And Gaming Addiction…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2363 users

God of the Battlefield: Part 1 - Page 46

Forum Index > Final Edits
1154 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 44 45 46 47 48 58 Next
Click Here To Read Part 2
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
May 27 2011 23:02 GMT
#901
sAviOr reminds me of Lucifer a bit. The fallen angel.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
May 27 2011 23:55 GMT
#902
On May 28 2011 08:02 Xiphos wrote:
sAviOr reminds me of Lucifer a bit. The fallen angel.

Nah, (P)LuCifer plays Protoss.

I cannot wait for part 2 of this. I think I'm going to reread it again in the mean time.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
May 28 2011 01:43 GMT
#903
In no uncertain terms this is the best article I'll read all week.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Niten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States598 Posts
May 28 2011 02:22 GMT
#904
Great article. I'm glad it was posted.

When reading the article, I was initially half-critical as I thought this was a not so light-handed article intending to bludgeon the new sc2 player scene into appreciating what was going on in the BW days. With TSL just over, it makes sense to me that TL makes a strong move into SC2 an then here backtracks to BW nostalgia. That could be somewhat true, but I don't really think so now.

I feel the article stands on its own, and I was blown away at the dominance Savior showed in the 2007 era (I got into BW in late 2008) and his use of tactics. It made me wonder if Zerg could be racially more dependent on tactics; I'm not sure, but I'm sure some Zergs, specific SC2 Zergs come to mind, would've called TvZ imba and never progressed the game as Savior did.

5/5!

Korra: "Ok, I know that I'm not good at emotions, but that's what Tenzin's gonna teach me, right? He's gonna teach me to be happy and gentle and spiritual, and the rest of that bullsh**t."
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
May 28 2011 03:55 GMT
#905
On May 28 2011 08:55 CDRdude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 08:02 Xiphos wrote:
sAviOr reminds me of Lucifer a bit. The fallen angel.

Nah, (P)LuCifer plays Protoss.

I cannot wait for part 2 of this. I think I'm going to reread it again in the mean time.


Agreed. If you want to make some sort of conection, he has far more similarities with (Z)Devil[fOu] than (P)LuCifer
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
May 28 2011 04:23 GMT
#906
not (P)Kingdom?
Rodiel3
Profile Joined March 2011
France1158 Posts
May 28 2011 06:49 GMT
#907
WOW nice read, and there was some VOD of Savior i havent see !!!
http://www.youtube.com/user/rodiel3 SCBW FPVOD
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
May 28 2011 06:49 GMT
#908
Very cool FE, loved the layout and it was interesting to get some history on ZvT (By far my favorite SC2 MU) in BW.
unsaid
Profile Joined February 2011
45 Posts
May 28 2011 10:29 GMT
#909
Why the hell are people against buying matches ?! I honestly don't get it...
ProxyResearch
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Poland16 Posts
May 28 2011 10:47 GMT
#910
I felt really good reading it, reminded me of all the hours I spent watching BW in the past, even made me kind of nostalgic. I really liked how the article was written and edited, awesome work, the fact that there will be a second part makes me even happier!
man and machine, power xtreme!
Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
May 28 2011 13:21 GMT
#911
The read was good until you started twisting statistics to elevate him over Flash/Jaedong, which is just plain ridicilous no matter which end you approach it from. Savior was good, but not that good as showcased by his mediocre career record (55% winrate anyone?)
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 28 2011 14:02 GMT
#912
Demand,

I can only recall one player retiring well before he was finished. Effort.

Guess what? His comeback is about to start as well. Ver is talking about Savior's era of domination. Nothing more; nothing less. There is nothing mediocre about what he did prior to him getting stomped by Bisu.

Once again, I repeat: we're looking at the time frame of his dominance. If you want to fulfill your Jaedong/Flash craving I recommend you read some of the Final Edits done on them.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
May 28 2011 15:46 GMT
#913
On May 28 2011 22:21 Demand2k wrote:
The read was good until you started twisting statistics to elevate him over Flash/Jaedong, which is just plain ridicilous no matter which end you approach it from. Savior was good, but not that good as showcased by his mediocre career record (55% winrate anyone?)


lol

this is talking about during his prime.. he had 3 years to tarnish his win rate to there. Did you factor that in?
sAviOr...
Hirmu
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Finland850 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-28 16:09:00
May 28 2011 16:08 GMT
#914
On May 29 2011 00:46 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 22:21 Demand2k wrote:
The read was good until you started twisting statistics to elevate him over Flash/Jaedong, which is just plain ridicilous no matter which end you approach it from. Savior was good, but not that good as showcased by his mediocre career record (55% winrate anyone?)


lol

this is talking about during his prime.. he had 3 years to tarnish his win rate to there. Did you factor that in?

Yeah, if i recall correctly he had +70% winrate in his prime (might be +65%). And in his osl run which he won (not sure if it was that one) he had +90% winrate vs protoss which was sickkkk.
Raysalis
Profile Joined July 2010
Malaysia1034 Posts
May 28 2011 16:23 GMT
#915
This is one of the best article I have read on TL. Thank you Ver for taking the time to write this
:)
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
May 28 2011 16:33 GMT
#916
i love the "imbalance" graphic
amazing work disciple <3
http://twitter.com/jhNz
MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
May 28 2011 19:45 GMT
#917
Really good article. The Maestro still hurts me to my very soul though
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 29 2011 08:23 GMT
#918
Honestly? I read the article and I feel like shit for not having followed the BW scene or played BW at all. Savior looks like a damn genius in that article.

I'm looking forward to part 2. Would be nice to have this sort of thing for other BW pros. It's really interesting.
maru lover forever
weeA
Profile Joined October 2010
India442 Posts
May 29 2011 10:43 GMT
#919
Saviour fan forever
Lim Yo Hwan I love U
JediGamer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States656 Posts
May 29 2011 12:16 GMT
#920
Excellent read your a God.
http://www.z33k.com/starcraft2/coach/sc2coaching Tastosis Approved Coaching
Prev 1 44 45 46 47 48 58 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
HomeStory Cup 28 - Group B
CranKy Ducklings146
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 196
SpeCial 73
Vindicta 8
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 681
Dota 2
syndereN594
monkeys_forever584
capcasts66
League of Legends
Cuddl3bear7
Counter-Strike
taco 619
m0e_tv530
Coldzera 1
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King138
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor118
Other Games
summit1g8389
Day[9].tv878
C9.Mang0378
ToD197
ViBE90
FrodaN74
minikerr11
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 81
• davetesta52
• HeavenSC 13
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21777
League of Legends
• Doublelift4710
• Stunt183
Other Games
• imaqtpie1251
• Day9tv878
• Shiphtur208
• Scarra186
Upcoming Events
Escore
8h 5m
LiuLi Cup
9h 5m
Serral vs Zoun
Cure vs Classic
Big Brain Bouts
15h 5m
ByuN vs GgMaChine
Serral vs Jumy
RSL Revival
1d 1h
RSL Revival
1d 6h
LiuLi Cup
1d 9h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 10h
RSL Revival
1d 16h
Replay Cast
1d 22h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
LiuLi Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
OSC
3 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-10
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Escore Tournament S1: W8
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.