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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
May 27 2011 23:02 GMT
#901
sAviOr reminds me of Lucifer a bit. The fallen angel.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
May 27 2011 23:55 GMT
#902
On May 28 2011 08:02 Xiphos wrote:
sAviOr reminds me of Lucifer a bit. The fallen angel.

Nah, (P)LuCifer plays Protoss.

I cannot wait for part 2 of this. I think I'm going to reread it again in the mean time.
Force staff is the best item in the game.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
May 28 2011 01:43 GMT
#903
In no uncertain terms this is the best article I'll read all week.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Niten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States598 Posts
May 28 2011 02:22 GMT
#904
Great article. I'm glad it was posted.

When reading the article, I was initially half-critical as I thought this was a not so light-handed article intending to bludgeon the new sc2 player scene into appreciating what was going on in the BW days. With TSL just over, it makes sense to me that TL makes a strong move into SC2 an then here backtracks to BW nostalgia. That could be somewhat true, but I don't really think so now.

I feel the article stands on its own, and I was blown away at the dominance Savior showed in the 2007 era (I got into BW in late 2008) and his use of tactics. It made me wonder if Zerg could be racially more dependent on tactics; I'm not sure, but I'm sure some Zergs, specific SC2 Zergs come to mind, would've called TvZ imba and never progressed the game as Savior did.

5/5!

Korra: "Ok, I know that I'm not good at emotions, but that's what Tenzin's gonna teach me, right? He's gonna teach me to be happy and gentle and spiritual, and the rest of that bullsh**t."
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
May 28 2011 03:55 GMT
#905
On May 28 2011 08:55 CDRdude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 08:02 Xiphos wrote:
sAviOr reminds me of Lucifer a bit. The fallen angel.

Nah, (P)LuCifer plays Protoss.

I cannot wait for part 2 of this. I think I'm going to reread it again in the mean time.


Agreed. If you want to make some sort of conection, he has far more similarities with (Z)Devil[fOu] than (P)LuCifer
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
May 28 2011 04:23 GMT
#906
not (P)Kingdom?
Rodiel3
Profile Joined March 2011
France1158 Posts
May 28 2011 06:49 GMT
#907
WOW nice read, and there was some VOD of Savior i havent see !!!
http://www.youtube.com/user/rodiel3 SCBW FPVOD
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
May 28 2011 06:49 GMT
#908
Very cool FE, loved the layout and it was interesting to get some history on ZvT (By far my favorite SC2 MU) in BW.
unsaid
Profile Joined February 2011
45 Posts
May 28 2011 10:29 GMT
#909
Why the hell are people against buying matches ?! I honestly don't get it...
ProxyResearch
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Poland16 Posts
May 28 2011 10:47 GMT
#910
I felt really good reading it, reminded me of all the hours I spent watching BW in the past, even made me kind of nostalgic. I really liked how the article was written and edited, awesome work, the fact that there will be a second part makes me even happier!
man and machine, power xtreme!
Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
May 28 2011 13:21 GMT
#911
The read was good until you started twisting statistics to elevate him over Flash/Jaedong, which is just plain ridicilous no matter which end you approach it from. Savior was good, but not that good as showcased by his mediocre career record (55% winrate anyone?)
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 28 2011 14:02 GMT
#912
Demand,

I can only recall one player retiring well before he was finished. Effort.

Guess what? His comeback is about to start as well. Ver is talking about Savior's era of domination. Nothing more; nothing less. There is nothing mediocre about what he did prior to him getting stomped by Bisu.

Once again, I repeat: we're looking at the time frame of his dominance. If you want to fulfill your Jaedong/Flash craving I recommend you read some of the Final Edits done on them.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
May 28 2011 15:46 GMT
#913
On May 28 2011 22:21 Demand2k wrote:
The read was good until you started twisting statistics to elevate him over Flash/Jaedong, which is just plain ridicilous no matter which end you approach it from. Savior was good, but not that good as showcased by his mediocre career record (55% winrate anyone?)


lol

this is talking about during his prime.. he had 3 years to tarnish his win rate to there. Did you factor that in?
sAviOr...
Hirmu
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Finland850 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-28 16:09:00
May 28 2011 16:08 GMT
#914
On May 29 2011 00:46 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2011 22:21 Demand2k wrote:
The read was good until you started twisting statistics to elevate him over Flash/Jaedong, which is just plain ridicilous no matter which end you approach it from. Savior was good, but not that good as showcased by his mediocre career record (55% winrate anyone?)


lol

this is talking about during his prime.. he had 3 years to tarnish his win rate to there. Did you factor that in?

Yeah, if i recall correctly he had +70% winrate in his prime (might be +65%). And in his osl run which he won (not sure if it was that one) he had +90% winrate vs protoss which was sickkkk.
Raysalis
Profile Joined July 2010
Malaysia1034 Posts
May 28 2011 16:23 GMT
#915
This is one of the best article I have read on TL. Thank you Ver for taking the time to write this
:)
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
May 28 2011 16:33 GMT
#916
i love the "imbalance" graphic
amazing work disciple <3
http://twitter.com/jhNz
MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
May 28 2011 19:45 GMT
#917
Really good article. The Maestro still hurts me to my very soul though
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 29 2011 08:23 GMT
#918
Honestly? I read the article and I feel like shit for not having followed the BW scene or played BW at all. Savior looks like a damn genius in that article.

I'm looking forward to part 2. Would be nice to have this sort of thing for other BW pros. It's really interesting.
maru lover forever
weeA
Profile Joined October 2010
India442 Posts
May 29 2011 10:43 GMT
#919
Saviour fan forever
Lim Yo Hwan I love U
JediGamer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States656 Posts
May 29 2011 12:16 GMT
#920
Excellent read your a God.
http://www.z33k.com/starcraft2/coach/sc2coaching Tastosis Approved Coaching
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