EPTThe rise of Kwanro[saM] - Page 4
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ZidaneTribal
United States2800 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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aZnvaLiaNce
United States942 Posts
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Quesadilla
United States1814 Posts
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hwasingodlysense
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to be stopped by bisu[shield] like that. in few words bisu crushed kwanro sense and strategy. or what his wins were made of. but it was good to see kwanro get this far. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
Stopped short by Bisu, as many people expected. It wasn't close... at all... Better luck next year. | ||
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
Yeah, total rape. T_T | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
The masslings in game 2 didn't even win either. I hope his performance was a reflection of nerves and just not a product of a low-econ, micro-happy, no-game-sense, bad-macro style. | ||
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
The rise...and now...the demise. gg kwanro  | ||
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bine
United States2352 Posts
kwanro sense strategy sense where in for what korea made. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
Thanks for putting everyone's spoiler efforts to waste. I personally wouldn't care, but some people will bound to complain  | ||
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spetial
United States688 Posts
i thought he did VERY well in game 2 and almost reached the threshhold of being able to take down bisu in early AND around mid game but bisu is just a monster and created a huge army during all that harassment. game 3 was over when he lost his scouting OL | ||
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tehAscender
94 Posts
I did watch some of the games you talked about, especially the 3 hatchery, mass lings into mutalisk, and he caught my eye, I believe this is the first time I noticed him. I did feel that he was an unconventional zerg as you mentioned, which gives him the advantage in cases where scouting is not practical by his opponent. But the bottom line is, he has a very unorthadox style if you will. Notice, that if he doesn't win with his strategy he won't. Furthermore, I noticed that his control is actually very poor. Being a zerg player, zergling micro is not that hard, simply surround and destroy. Your ability to micromanage zerglings is more based on your opponent's placement and understanding of your strategy. His mutalisk is average, and his decision making skills are poor to say the least. He does not have the ability, or chooses not to play the standard zerg style. After a while, people will recognize him and counter-act him accordingly. Boxer is the perfect example, he likes to cheeze, and if you'll notice, many smart players scout earlier because of this against him. In addition, the mistakes he made against Bisu were inexcusable and downright pathetic. If you can't do the basics, that puts your ability into question. I have never watched him 'dominate' a game like Savior can do, he always involves risk and uncertainty. His macromanagement is terrible. One thing I do agree, he is the most aggressive zerg to the point of stupidity I have ever seen. And the only thing that goes through his mind is KILL KILL KILL. And his play portrays that. The only good that comes out of him is Savior can watch the wacky shit he does and maybe add to his own playstyles. The 1 hatch play was genius. [Sam] is just stupid, and sloppy to the point where it makes the other player seem sloppy. | ||
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tehAscender
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intotherainx
United States504 Posts
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On October 29 2007 06:06 tehAscender wrote: BTW: Check out Magma[S.G], I have my mind on him and Jaedong as the next big zerg. GGplay is terrible too. Magma? No way bro', check out Haran, that's where it's at. | ||
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tehAscender
94 Posts
Jaedong's weakness is his decision making skills, which recently have seemed to improve at a lot. But I always had faith in his potential because of his excellent micro. Arguably, he overfocuses on micro and if he used more of his apm on macro his game improves. There's actually a trait I like very much that Savior and Bisu portrays that not many others portray. When they get an advantage, they don't keep spamming zerglings or w/e in a quick attempt to end it, but they rather, macro up and play a longer game, with this advantage rather then try to end it quickly and hence their greater consistency. Any comments on Magma though? He's been around for a while but only noticed him now. Good example is with his game against Boxer. Excellent micro and decision making. | ||
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Quesadilla
United States1814 Posts
Personally, I think Kwanro is still a really dope player. Personally, to me, it looked more like he choked, not suffered from his bad skills. If you noticed, his macro was off, micro was panicked, econ was low... he played very skittish. He made some careless mistakes for a pro to make, like the overlord loss to the cannon in game 3. In moments like that alone I am convinced that it was an instance of choking and not lack of skill. I'm holding out to see him in the future. Everybody should get more than one chance, especially after brutally raping players like Light in legit tournaments. | ||
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pyrogenetix
China5098 Posts
yea i think he choked too =( he made too many mistakes for it to be "because he is a non-skilled player" than "paniced". I still think he's a very good player with potential. Maybe it's just because he's up against Bisu and he just shat his pants (I would) and played horribly. Of course that is another thing too, to control your nerves. However I think he'll have plenty of opportunities in the future to train that =D | ||
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MoNKeYSpanKeR
United States2869 Posts
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