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HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-26 07:58:52
April 26 2007 00:12 GMT
#1
BE PERFECT

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We always want our players to be perfect. They should be like the units on our screen: when we command our SCVs to ‘gather,’ they go and mine without error. In the same way, fans expect the players to be without error: whatever they attempt to do, they should accomplish with ease.

After all, don’t they practice for hours without sun or water?

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Starcraft pros during practice.


We expect pros to have godly macro and devilish micro. We expect pros to have every build and counter build filed, sorted, and dewey-decimaled in their brain. We expect the pros to come up with brilliant strategies, and adapt to any in-game development.

Isn’t that what makes the difference between the pros and some B- in the pubbies? That’s why they get paid to play, while we stay up at night to watch them play, right?

Pros should be good vT, vZ, and vP. Pros should never lose their nerves. Pros should be masters at scouting, always having equal information as us, the observers.


But the same gods that gave us the SCV and its 60hp of perfection also gave us:
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The Dragoon is Bill Roper's way of reminding us that to err is to be human.


Perfect is what robots are, what computers are. The last time a group of humans tried to be perfect, they practiced eugenics, killed everybody who was different, wore ugly pants, and tried to take over the world. And the next time in the future when everybody tries to be perfect, the machines will win the war and keep humans captive in a virtual reality while they use our energy to generate power. Humans, by nature, have flaws.

Perfect is not what people are, and I like it that way. We always laugh at players who perform ‘newb mistakes’: spilling units, leaving workers idle, skipping a round of macro. We shout at the screen, we laugh, we type “I could do better on Bnet kekeke” and then we go off to kill kittens. We expect a minimum amount of fundamentals.

But you know what? Boxer. Not perfect. Reach. Not perfect. Oov. Casy. Kingdom Nal_Ra. July. And Yellow... Yellow is heroically not perfect. His nonperfection is epic, the stuff of Homer and Shakespeare.

Of course, perfect does not equal “not slumping.” But even in their absolute primes, when they were in their best form, the above players had serious flaws in their games. And yet, they were stomping throats!

Boxer. Can’t beat any elite toss without all-in timing pushes. OSL champion.

Reach. Doesn’t understand modern PvZ. OSL Champion.

July. Fat. OSL Champion.
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(but seriously, July's true flaw is never getting the hang of Savior’s 3-hatch ZvT build. He just can’t. It goes against his nature of constant pressure and attack. It’s like trying to teach a bull to not charge and have the matador come to him instead.)

GoRush. Doesn’t Rush. MSL Champion.

Nal_Ra. Inconsistent. MSL and OSL Champion.

Kingdom. Even more inconsistent, with no macro to boot. OSL Champion.

Anytime. The champion of inconsistency. OSL Champion.

Oov. Attack+Click ground. MSL and OSL Champion.

Casy. Boxer’s strengths times two. Boxer’s weaknesses times three. OSL Champion.

How can you argue against such successful imperfection?

And if you ever needed any more proof that success has nothing to do with perfection:

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Honestly, who in your mind has been the closest to perfect? I got three candidates:

First, Midas. His play is the closest to perfection: no weaknesses and strong in any matchup. He’s killer in TvZ, even better in TvP, and he’s also solid in the mirror match. But because of the successes of his play, Midas’ mental imperfections are even more pronounced. Many players have won the whole thing with much less skill than Midas. He has his flaws, but they're not gameplay-related; it's a dramatic combination of weak nerves and bad luck. As a player, it makes him exciting to watch and compelling as a storyline.

Second, Nada. Nada is something else. His gameplay is airtight, but Nada honestly can't belong in the 'perfect' category. Nada’s perfection has nothing to do with his game. He's too much of a stylist. Nada's game is full of weird quirks. He hates building turrets versus toss. He does funky builds that no one else can pull off. He never plays like a conventional Terran. Nada's perfect in the sense that you can't find an obvious flaw in his game. But at the same time, what he does well is so unique and impossible to emulate. Perfect? Maybe in his own way. Can others strive to achieve the same kind of perfection? Impossible.

That leaves us with this guy:
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Savior Cuban Gangster. Perfect. Plays low-econ, high-econ, plays orthodox, plays funky, plays Mozart, plays Run-DMC. Micro, macro, strategy, management, fundamentals, and balls the size of Brazil. He plays Zerg the way the Xel'Naga intended - like a ball of mercury. Furthermore, he has the perfect demeanor - a cold-blooded assassin. I'm shocked - SHOCKED - when he loses. The way he carries himself, never smiling, I feel like it's simply natural for him to win. Birds fly, dogs die, people fuck, and Savior wins.

And you sit there, thinking, "How do I become PERFECT like Savior? What should I practice first?" And then you get your grubby paws on one of his replays and realize his APM is like 70.*

*not his real APM. But Savior's APM is unusually low for a pro.

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Perfection is not the answer.

Many players are sexy precisely because they are so imperfect: Pusan is the captain of my Major Flaw All-Stars. The roster of non-champions is Midas (mentioned above), Light (falls behind in the beginning stages of EVERY game, always makes great comeback), Zergman (Has streaks of ZvT, ZvZ, and ZvP dominance, but never at the same time - only one good matchup per season.), Silver (Hydras and nothing else), Pusan (SPIRIT!) and IntoTheRainbow (He's like a magician with one good trick... but you watch that trick over and over again because he's so good and it always works.)



So, if perfection is not the answer, what is? The true reason for embracing our flaws is this: Our flaws can be overcome if we focus on our strengths. To illustrate:

Boxer. Understands the game like a stopwatch. Not a stopwatch you or I might own at home, but like one of those 0.00000 stopwatches that they use at the Olympics. OSL champion.

Reach. To play like Reach is to walk like John Wayne or squint like Clint Eastwood. OSL Champion.

July. Mastered low-econ Zerg it to the point where it's as sharp as a samurai sword. Attacks like a Piranha smelling blood. OSL Champion.

GoRush. The king of in-game management. MSL Champion.

Nal_Ra. Creative, innovative, and spectacular. Watching him play is like watching fireworks. MSL and OSL Champion.

Kingdom. Aggressive, in-your-face micro. Nobody, not even Casy, gets more mileage out of a single unit. OSL Champion.

Anytime. Innovative builds, macro for days, and balls of steel. Has a keen sense of how to make subtle but game-changing tweaks to build orders. OSL Champion.

Oov. A cheating gorilla. MSL and OSL Champion.

Casy. Makes any ranged unit seem imba. OSL Champion.



Sometimes we are judged by what we can't do. Sometimes we are judged by what we can. But a champion is always remembered by what he can do, because he has forced us to overlook his flaws.

In summary: To be flawed is to be human; to overcome our flaws by the virtue of our strengths is to be victorious.
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returns upon momentous occasions.
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
April 26 2007 00:19 GMT
#2
Encore!!!
to miss the mark
Profile Joined November 2005
Bosnia-Herzegovina1381 Posts
April 26 2007 00:21 GMT
#3
That was an amazing read

I lol'd at
I feel like it's simply natural for him to win. Birds fly, dogs die, people fuck, and Savior wins.


Again, really nice read.
Act happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love, and do what you will.
sweatpants
Profile Joined April 2006
United States940 Posts
April 26 2007 00:24 GMT
#4
The article, with all its imperfections in mind, is beautiful. I will now make my first signature.
Perfect. Plays low-econ, high-econ, plays orthodox, plays funky, plays Mozart, plays Run-DMC. Micro, macro, strategy, management, fundamentals, and balls the size of Brazil. He plays Zerg the way the Xel Naga intended - like a ball of mercury. -HonestTea
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 26 2007 00:24 GMT
#5
Let's have lunch, HonestTea~

Great read.
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5281 Posts
April 26 2007 00:25 GMT
#6
And then you get your grubby paws on one of his replays and realize his APM is like 70.

more like 240-250.(if it was sarcsm it was lame)
nice read
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Ryp
Profile Joined February 2007
31 Posts
April 26 2007 00:26 GMT
#7
Very nice, made me horny,,
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
April 26 2007 00:29 GMT
#8
HT i hope one day you have eyes for me.
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Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
April 26 2007 00:35 GMT
#9
hahah nice you can continue to blog here! XD
yisun518
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada480 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-26 00:39:21
April 26 2007 00:39 GMT
#10
wow nice one, and savior's apm is 70?? thought 200+
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
April 26 2007 00:41 GMT
#11
Wow nice read Honest Tea i look forward to your next Blog!
Hi
Blind
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States2528 Posts
April 26 2007 00:45 GMT
#12
On April 26 2007 09:25 xM(Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
And then you get your grubby paws on one of his replays and realize his APM is like 70.

more like 240-250.(if it was sarcsm it was lame)
nice read

On April 26 2007 09:39 yisun518 wrote:
wow nice one, and savior's apm is 70?? thought 200+
It was sarcasm.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 26 2007 00:56 GMT
#13
lol @ everyone hanging onto to the savior = 70 apm line. =o=;;

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hyperbole
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FireBlast!
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United Kingdom5251 Posts
April 26 2007 01:13 GMT
#14
Awesome read :D

"Casy. Boxer’s strengths times two. Boxer’s weaknesses times three." my favourite line.

THO to be petty, I think Kingdom has great macro which has always been highly underrated because of his playing style.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 26 2007 01:14 GMT
#15
a fine grasp of the stereotypes
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
April 26 2007 01:28 GMT
#16
It's a little ironic that in your talk of the "Perfect" player you missed out on analyzing the player whose nickname is actually the "Perfect Terran" =P What's with the XellOs hate?
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6771 Posts
April 26 2007 01:32 GMT
#17
Really nice <3
Graphics
GongKyuckTerran
Profile Joined March 2006
Croatia1096 Posts
April 26 2007 01:33 GMT
#18
so nice !
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azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
April 26 2007 01:33 GMT
#19
hahaha, that was awesome
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 26 2007 01:35 GMT
#20
On April 26 2007 10:28 GrandInquisitor wrote:
It's a little ironic that in your talk of the "Perfect" player you missed out on analyzing the player whose nickname is actually the "Perfect Terran" =P What's with the XellOs hate?


Apparently HonestTea and uhjoo are having a spat. Why else isn't XellOs featured?!
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
April 26 2007 01:40 GMT
#21
You're a damned good writer. Keep it up.

Just something I've been meaning to write about for a while (I didn't mean for it to be this long =/):

Savior at his best was the closest thing to perfection I've seen in BW. I was shocked each and every time he made a micro mistake. If his harassing mutas took a few swings and missed, I was amazed. When he had the opportunity for a perfect plague but didn't take it, you could hear the surprise in the commentators voices. "Plaguuu! Plaguu!!..... Plagu?" For a while we were even a little shocked whenever his OL scouted the wrong way.

He didn't show a significant hole in his game until Iris pushed him to the limit on Arkanoid, with constant, unrelenting attacks. Finally we saw that his multitasking ability, normally incredible due to an almost inhuman efficiency, could be stressed beyond its limits, flexing until it neared its breaking point.

But then something changed. Savior's iron will would not let him lose. He put the pressure back on Iris; made him start making mistakes. Suddenly those m&m attacks were becoming less effective, and soon enough, Iris was dropping marines onto waiting lurkers. The game was Savior's again.

But the flaw was seen nonetheless. Bisu exploited it every chance he got in the MSL finals. Constant corsair harassment. DTs everywhere. It seemed like every time Savior's back was turned, drones were being hacked apart en masse.

I'm aware that Savior isn't and wasn't perfect when it comes to micro, macro, etc. But for a long while he was the closest I've seen. And if (theoretically) players come along who manage to "perfect" those mechanics, there's still no such thing as perfect multitasking (for humans, at least). It seems it'll come down to who can manage the most going on at once. We've had a glimpse at what that's like in Savior.

So there we have it: the perfect player's flaw.
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L!MP
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia2067 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-26 01:42:57
April 26 2007 01:40 GMT
#22
that was beautiful. finally a starcraft blog rant/blog truly worth reading - valid, objective, compelling. 11 thumbs up.

P.S. see you on the featured thread list.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
April 26 2007 01:41 GMT
#23
Awesome !
Seriously HonestTea, this is one of the best things I ever read on this website.
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
April 26 2007 01:45 GMT
#24
Thanks for writing this! I always look forward to these, they are MARVELOUSLY written. Your prose is fantastic. The direction with which you write your articles is very cool, it's like something I'd expect from a high-profile columnist at pgr21 or something. I'm glad you're here at TL writing in English though

I liked your profile on Midas, I think you hit it on the nail there.
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-26 02:06:37
April 26 2007 02:02 GMT
#25
On April 26 2007 10:40 SonuvBob wrote:
You're a damned good writer. Keep it up.

Just something I've been meaning to write about for a while (I didn't mean for it to be this long =/):

Savior at his best was the closest thing to perfection I've seen in BW. I was shocked each and every time he made a micro mistake. If his harassing mutas took a few swings and missed, I was amazed. When he had the opportunity for a perfect plague but didn't take it, you could hear the surprise in the commentators voices. "Plaguuu! Plaguu!!..... Plagu?" For a while we were even a little shocked whenever his OL scouted the wrong way.

He didn't show a significant hole in his game until Iris pushed him to the limit on Arkanoid, with constant, unrelenting attacks. Finally we saw that his multitasking ability, normally incredible due to an almost inhuman efficiency, could be stressed beyond its limits, flexing until it neared its breaking point.

But then something changed. Savior's iron will would not let him lose. He put the pressure back on Iris; made him start making mistakes. Suddenly those m&m attacks were becoming less effective, and soon enough, Iris was dropping marines onto waiting lurkers. The game was Savior's again.

But the flaw was seen nonetheless. Bisu exploited it every chance he got in the MSL finals. Constant corsair harassment. DTs everywhere. It seemed like every time Savior's back was turned, drones were being hacked apart en masse.

I'm aware that Savior isn't and wasn't perfect when it comes to micro, macro, etc. But for a long while he was the closest I've seen. And if (theoretically) players come along who manage to "perfect" those mechanics, there's still no such thing as perfect multitasking (for humans, at least). It seems it'll come down to who can manage the most going on at once. We've had a glimpse at what that's like in Savior.

So there we have it: the perfect player's flaw.


This is a really excellent point - even the perfect players have a limit to how many things they can pay attention to at once. And you really killed it with the example. No other game illustrates this point (and so dramatically) like that Savior - Iris game 5 on Arkanoid.

I also felt the same way about Savior, that he was near perfect and every click he made had a purpose. I'm very eager to see how he bounces back from his loss to Bisu, to see if he can return to that "...plague?" status.



GrandInquisitor,
As for Xellos, he belongs to a different catagory. Xellos (and GoodFriend) are to be a subject for a future entry... but I'm afraid it won't be very flattering.
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skindzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Chile5114 Posts
April 26 2007 02:08 GMT
#26
"GoRush. Doesn’t Rush. MSL Champion. " ahahahaha

Really nice read.. congratz.
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Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-26 02:25:47
April 26 2007 02:18 GMT
#27
Good read! More plz. Sometimes the greatest moments in Starcraft is demonstration of perfect skill but it often needs need human imperfection as the main side kick of that particular moment.
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SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
April 26 2007 02:21 GMT
#28
Darn, that was sweet. I want to see moar and Moar and MOAR :o!
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bine
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States2352 Posts
April 26 2007 02:30 GMT
#29
Awesome post <3
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42638 Posts
April 26 2007 02:39 GMT
#30
On April 26 2007 10:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2007 10:28 GrandInquisitor wrote:
It's a little ironic that in your talk of the "Perfect" player you missed out on analyzing the player whose nickname is actually the "Perfect Terran" =P What's with the XellOs hate?


Apparently HonestTea and uhjoo are having a spat. Why else isn't XellOs featured?!


Because he's drawing attention to imperfections. It would seem uhjoo really does have perfect play.
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mel_ee
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
2448 Posts
April 26 2007 02:52 GMT
#31
nicely written~
i enjoy those pictures. lol at the cuban savior
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LordofAscension
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States589 Posts
April 26 2007 02:53 GMT
#32
Very nice HonestTea - that kept me really entertained. :D!

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SchOOl_VicTIm
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Greece2394 Posts
April 26 2007 02:56 GMT
#33
really nice read
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
April 26 2007 03:17 GMT
#34
woooooo YellOw tragic hero D:

Reach :O

He says his PvZ better now -_-;'
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
April 26 2007 03:30 GMT
#35
On April 26 2007 09:12 HonestTea wrote:Yellow is heroically not perfect. His nonperfection is epic, the stuff of Homer and Shakespeare.


Yellow's WoW gear is Epic.
ram
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Lithuania602 Posts
April 26 2007 03:35 GMT
#36
That was really really entertaining! thank you! made my day... night =D
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
April 26 2007 03:39 GMT
#37
On April 26 2007 12:30 thedeadhaji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2007 09:12 HonestTea wrote:Yellow is heroically not perfect. His nonperfection is epic, the stuff of Homer and Shakespeare.


Yellow's WoW gear is Epic.


ahahahahhahahahahha

he doesn't actually play though [I hope] just advertise.

too much poker T-T
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7225 Posts
April 26 2007 03:49 GMT
#38
agree with this completely
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exihea
Profile Joined November 2006
United States413 Posts
April 26 2007 03:49 GMT
#39
Excellent writing!
Talking about midas, I wonder if he regrets he has chosen Savior twice in last OSL. He was beat there and he failed ODT this time IIRC. Had he made a "better" choice and manage to be in seeds, life would be very different.
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
April 26 2007 03:54 GMT
#40
Read every word. I couldn't agree more. This is why I love all the faulting protoss kings and I always will.
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FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
April 26 2007 03:56 GMT
#41
omg rampage... keep it up... but u damn have to write smth about bisu... sometimes it's like he's trying to lose his every game...
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Locked
Profile Joined September 2004
United States4182 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-26 04:09:55
April 26 2007 04:09 GMT
#42
haha wow did you think of all of that yourself, that was such an amazing read honesttea
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minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
April 26 2007 04:26 GMT
#43
This I really enjoyed. Good stuff, thank you.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2006
u gotta skate8152 Posts
April 26 2007 04:43 GMT
#44
Great posts HT and Bob.
eSTRO for life | #2 Sea.Really fan! | #1 GosI[Flying] fan! | Clide - best SC2 terran!
sweatpants
Profile Joined April 2006
United States940 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-26 06:44:31
April 26 2007 05:09 GMT
#45
On April 26 2007 11:02 HonestTea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2007 10:40 SonuvBob wrote:
You're a damned good writer. Keep it up.

Just something I've been meaning to write about for a while (I didn't mean for it to be this long =/):

Savior at his best was the closest thing to perfection I've seen in BW. I was shocked each and every time he made a micro mistake. If his harassing mutas took a few swings and missed, I was amazed. When he had the opportunity for a perfect plague but didn't take it, you could hear the surprise in the commentators voices. "Plaguuu! Plaguu!!..... Plagu?" For a while we were even a little shocked whenever his OL scouted the wrong way.

He didn't show a significant hole in his game until Iris pushed him to the limit on Arkanoid, with constant, unrelenting attacks. Finally we saw that his multitasking ability, normally incredible due to an almost inhuman efficiency, could be stressed beyond its limits, flexing until it neared its breaking point.

But then something changed. Savior's iron will would not let him lose. He put the pressure back on Iris; made him start making mistakes. Suddenly those m&m attacks were becoming less effective, and soon enough, Iris was dropping marines onto waiting lurkers. The game was Savior's again.

But the flaw was seen nonetheless. Bisu exploited it every chance he got in the MSL finals. Constant corsair harassment. DTs everywhere. It seemed like every time Savior's back was turned, drones were being hacked apart en masse.

I'm aware that Savior isn't and wasn't perfect when it comes to micro, macro, etc. But for a long while he was the closest I've seen. And if (theoretically) players come along who manage to "perfect" those mechanics, there's still no such thing as perfect multitasking (for humans, at least). It seems it'll come down to who can manage the most going on at once. We've had a glimpse at what that's like in Savior.

So there we have it: the perfect player's flaw.


This is a really excellent point - even the perfect players have a limit to how many things they can pay attention to at once. And you really killed it with the example. No other game illustrates this point (and so dramatically) like that Savior - Iris game 5 on Arkanoid.

I also felt the same way about Savior, that he was near perfect and every click he made had a purpose. I'm very eager to see how he bounces back from his loss to Bisu, to see if he can return to that "...plague?" status.



GrandInquisitor,
As for Xellos, he belongs to a different catagory. Xellos (and GoodFriend) are to be a subject for a future entry... but I'm afraid it won't be very flattering.


You two area right on the fucking money. There is truly little I can say that's not already been illustrated beautifully.

I don't think anyone will argue that his most spectacular display of skill were against Terrans. His opponents were utterly incapable of gaining enough leverage on him. At the earliest sign of a defeated battle, even before you realized you would win, he would retreat and conserve. And even if you won the skirmish, he would make you bleed. A zerg army would unburrow from the front lines and crawl out of sight just as the announcer clicked on the debris of a flying dropship. First person views would catch the Terran seeing a counter coming just at the nick of time for a semi-successful defense, after which he would jump the screen to find hopping zerglings where his away team should have been. Hero marines would rip through the last lurker as two science vessels exploded above. I think this ability to amplify his own gains while diminishing those of the opponent was his most perplexing trait. How the hell could his units be so much more productive in everything they did?

Moreover, I have never seen anyone of which almost everyone was terrified. His confidence was deservedly brimming at almost all times in the game and almost more-so in the most important matches. He would dangerously tread the border of timing with that extra drone instead of the two lings and builds that would arrive too late for any other player. Countless early TvZ's come to mind where there is a marine medic force frozen outside Savior's perhaps under-defended natural. Lings and one sunken with two coming in, and the only thing keeping the MM force hesitant is Savior's... AURA. How far along are those sunkens? Will they come in on time? Should I risk it? Lings flowing back and forth and blobs throbbing on the creep- a living Zerg singularity urging, even begging an attack. Communication so clear as though Savior's own voice were clouding the opponent's focus: "If you push now, you better be damn sure to cripple me. Because if you fail, I will take the initiative and never give it back. Just like I've done in the past to the countless others in your place. You can decide the game right here or we can keep playing for a little bit." It was only those with the sheer BALLS to commit that were successful: Iris having acquired them from undoubtedly countless games, and Nada finally in Shinhan Masters. Bisu played a damn good game too, even though Savior's overconfidence made for relatively easy decisions on Bisu's part. Especially by game three, you could see the name "Savior" was no longer a weapon.

Savior's mortality was exposed a second time there, and his "slump," if you want to call it that, all but inducted. I, for one, eagerly await this Starleague season to see what happened to the player indisputably recognized as the closest thing to perfection we've seen.
Perfect. Plays low-econ, high-econ, plays orthodox, plays funky, plays Mozart, plays Run-DMC. Micro, macro, strategy, management, fundamentals, and balls the size of Brazil. He plays Zerg the way the Xel Naga intended - like a ball of mercury. -HonestTea
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United States16368 Posts
April 26 2007 05:15 GMT
#46
Wow, very nicely written.

Good read.
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Canada6683 Posts
April 26 2007 05:16 GMT
#47
wow awesome write-up HonestTea
Please keep writing more!
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Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-26 05:20:49
April 26 2007 05:18 GMT
#48
omg they should study this in philosophy or something

Savior Cuban Gangster. Perfect. Plays low-econ, high-econ, plays orthodox, plays funky, plays Mozart, plays Run-DMC. Micro, macro, strategy, management, fundamentals, and balls the size of Brazil. He plays Zerg the way the Xel'Naga intended - like a ball of mercury. Furthermore, he has the perfect demeanor - a cold-blooded assassin. I'm shocked - SHOCKED - when he loses. The way he carries himself, never smiling, I feel like it's simply natural for him to win. Birds fly, dogs die, people fuck, and Savior wins.

omg lolol
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Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1134 Posts
April 26 2007 05:26 GMT
#49
Amazing read from everyone. I really enjoy when the bright minds of TL enlighten us on their thoughts, its what keeps people coming back and asking for more.

I first came into progaming about the time that savior was really in the height of his dominance. I never got to be around for boxer, or july, or oov. However, I think that saviors dominance was still different from everyone else's. As sweatpants said, the sheer magnitude of fear that was released into people because of skill was one thing that made him different.

The other thing seemed to be the way he carried himself. I have read interviews upon interviews from all the winners. Saviors attitude was something fresh, something different. A lot of people chalked this up to arrogance, but it was all well deserved! His answers were amazing, and his presence was felt. He was more than just a winner, he was a champion - in all senses. In his prime, you knew he was going to win, but you still watched because of his play; you were drawn to it, you can't help but watch in awe.

These last months have been painful for me, as a true savior fan boy. I hope that he triumphantly makes his return to restore order to the BW community and regain his position on the top.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
April 26 2007 05:34 GMT
#50
Very funny and yet deep reading.
I really love it, my new favorite of Tl.net
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Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
April 26 2007 05:55 GMT
#51
"For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of Saro."

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Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
April 26 2007 06:01 GMT
#52
Fudge me. This thread was a gem. I nominate for Hall of Fame.
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Profile Joined November 2005
United States210 Posts
April 26 2007 06:03 GMT
#53
i think i shed a tear
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lostman
Profile Joined February 2007
194 Posts
April 26 2007 06:09 GMT
#54
Wow what a thread...seems like brilliance begets more brilliance. Hope more people can share their thoughts on Savior's "perfection".
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Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
April 26 2007 06:12 GMT
#55
oh my god i cannot belive you fuond that pic of savior RROFL
greattt post HT, i am drooling for more ~!~!
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-26 10:52:50
April 26 2007 06:17 GMT
#56
I think people fail to see Savior is the more perfected version of Gorush imo. Despite his lack of speed, he knows when to go attack, when to retreat, how to attribute loss for gain, etc.

I disagree with iloveoov having a lack of micro, he has shown incredible unit control time after time, especially with large units. He relies on his superior multi-tasking(which in turn, creates his impossible wall of units.) and tactics to keep him going.

But I'm ticked you completely skipped sync. In his prime, he was the god of timing, clutter micro, and still has great defensive and offensive initiatives, despite his weak, weak macro. Sync will stop all over you arrogant little openings given the space, and will romp over you like he did vs Kingdom when he put all his gates on the higher ground on Blitz. hehe :p

Wait, where's "the perfect terran" in all of this ;P
Nah, his weaknesses are obvious now. In his prime though, his execution was perfect, and the only games he lost were due to a gamble here and there by either side :x

O_o just read the post
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
April 26 2007 08:46 GMT
#57
Very awesome read !!
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Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
April 26 2007 10:51 GMT
#58
Wow ... that was amazing O_O

SOLID WORK
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United States3939 Posts
April 26 2007 10:52 GMT
#59
This thread fucking wins.
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Profile Joined February 2007
United States225 Posts
April 26 2007 12:16 GMT
#60
The vegeta pic at the end was the perfect conclusion.
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United States4658 Posts
April 26 2007 14:56 GMT
#61
Excellent... love it
w/e
LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
April 26 2007 15:38 GMT
#62
hilarious... oh and that line about savior natural to win, is a famous muhammed ali quote
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5007 Posts
April 26 2007 16:14 GMT
#63
On April 27 2007 00:38 LumberJack wrote:
hilarious... oh and that line about savior natural to win, is a famous muhammed ali quote


Really? which one? That's cool, because I don't remember ever hearing/reading the ali quote.

Damn, ali is so fucking awesome too.
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Profile Joined January 2007
United States518 Posts
April 26 2007 16:53 GMT
#64
Very nicely done. I love the lines at the end.
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United States2722 Posts
April 26 2007 17:06 GMT
#65
"Reach. Doesn’t understand modern PvZ. OSL Champion"
"GoRush. Doesn’t Rush. MSL Champion."
"Oov. Attack+Click ground. MSL and OSL Champion."
"Oov. A cheating gorilla. MSL and OSL Champion."

Hahahhahaa, brevity is the soul of wit. =)
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Profile Joined March 2003
8 Posts
April 26 2007 17:57 GMT
#66
Damn that was good, now I need a cigarette.
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Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9374 Posts
April 26 2007 18:10 GMT
#67
I was reading the forums, and noticed I did not read this full thing once.

I just did, I must say, I'm way amused by the way you write, very nice and very, very well written.

Good luck, and keep up the good "blogs". I'm going to start reading them, as soon as they come out!.

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Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-26 18:38:10
April 26 2007 18:37 GMT
#68
excellent writing, I thoroughly enjoyed it and yes this definitely belongs in Featured Threads
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Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
April 26 2007 18:55 GMT
#69
Very nice post HonestTea
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4315 Posts
April 26 2007 21:18 GMT
#70
Beautiful :-)
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Germany142 Posts
April 26 2007 23:21 GMT
#71
very good
There is nothing more ridicoulus than "trying".
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Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States205 Posts
April 26 2007 23:49 GMT
#72
one of the best threads ive ever read ^_^
macro ftw
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United States74 Posts
April 27 2007 02:19 GMT
#73
i really enjoyed reading this.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
April 27 2007 02:40 GMT
#74
How the hell did I miss this. Thread of the friggin' year. Thanks for my new quote.

(Btw SonuvBob's and sweatpants' posts were pretty awesome contributions too.)
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Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Sudan3166 Posts
April 27 2007 03:15 GMT
#75
Wow I actually read that I don't even follow starcraft. Good blog.
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Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-27 03:31:25
April 27 2007 03:29 GMT
#76
This was a cool thread but compliments like "great prose" seem to be overstating it a bit. HonestTea is no Hemmingway. He is good at stereotyping our favorite starcraft players with witty remarks though. Nice job but the post isn't perfect

edit: I just realized that english must be your second language, in which case it was definitely a nice piece of writing.
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Profile Joined February 2007
United States514 Posts
April 27 2007 03:55 GMT
#77
-clap clap-
Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
April 27 2007 05:30 GMT
#78
There may not be a perfect sc player, but ill be damned if this isn't fucking perfect.

Awesomely written

5 stars
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Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
April 27 2007 05:44 GMT
#79
Jeez this is a bloody good thread!
Memory lane in nice
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
April 27 2007 08:37 GMT
#80
Sigh...I'm jealous of how well you write, HonestTea.
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
April 27 2007 08:38 GMT
#81
On April 27 2007 12:29 boghat wrote:
This was a cool thread but compliments like "great prose" seem to be overstating it a bit. HonestTea is no Hemmingway. He is good at stereotyping our favorite starcraft players with witty remarks though. Nice job but the post isn't perfect

edit: I just realized that english must be your second language, in which case it was definitely a nice piece of writing.


It better the hell not be!
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 27 2007 10:16 GMT
#82
On April 27 2007 12:29 boghat wrote:
This was a cool thread but compliments like "great prose" seem to be overstating it a bit. HonestTea is no Hemmingway. He is good at stereotyping our favorite starcraft players with witty remarks though. Nice job but the post isn't perfect

edit: I just realized that english must be your second language, in which case it was definitely a nice piece of writing.


No. gtfo.
Don't even try to criticize this work of art.
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chiflutz
Profile Joined June 2006
Romania1025 Posts
April 27 2007 10:29 GMT
#83
Awesome read. Hilarious and oh-so-true. I tip my hat to you, HT.
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ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
April 27 2007 10:40 GMT
#84
On April 27 2007 19:16 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2007 12:29 boghat wrote:
This was a cool thread but compliments like "great prose" seem to be overstating it a bit. HonestTea is no Hemmingway. He is good at stereotyping our favorite starcraft players with witty remarks though. Nice job but the post isn't perfect

edit: I just realized that english must be your second language, in which case it was definitely a nice piece of writing.


No. gtfo.
Don't even try to criticize this work of art.


Calm down, no one's perfect.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
April 27 2007 11:37 GMT
#85
On April 27 2007 19:40 ilovezil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2007 19:16 fusionsdf wrote:
On April 27 2007 12:29 boghat wrote:
This was a cool thread but compliments like "great prose" seem to be overstating it a bit. HonestTea is no Hemmingway. He is good at stereotyping our favorite starcraft players with witty remarks though. Nice job but the post isn't perfect

edit: I just realized that english must be your second language, in which case it was definitely a nice piece of writing.


No. gtfo.
Don't even try to criticize this work of art.


Calm down, no one's perfect.


but this post is damn close
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
April 27 2007 11:56 GMT
#86
rofl
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
April 27 2007 15:19 GMT
#87
great read, good job!
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Belial-
Profile Joined April 2007
United States132 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-27 16:32:31
April 27 2007 16:31 GMT
#88
On April 27 2007 12:29 boghat wrote:
This was a cool thread but compliments like "great prose" seem to be overstating it a bit. HonestTea is no Hemmingway. He is good at stereotyping our favorite starcraft players with witty remarks though. Nice job but the post isn't perfect

edit: I just realized that english must be your second language, in which case it was definitely a nice piece of writing.


I find it ironic that he is pointing out the fact that the OP's post isn't perfect when the OP himself is stating that nobody is perfect. Seriously, as has been said before, gtfo.

Oh, and HT, awesome post. Great read, definitely. Great thread in general really.
boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
April 27 2007 20:49 GMT
#89
On April 28 2007 01:31 Belial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2007 12:29 boghat wrote:
This was a cool thread but compliments like "great prose" seem to be overstating it a bit. HonestTea is no Hemmingway. He is good at stereotyping our favorite starcraft players with witty remarks though. Nice job but the post isn't perfect

edit: I just realized that english must be your second language, in which case it was definitely a nice piece of writing.


I find it ironic that he is pointing out the fact that the OP's post isn't perfect when the OP himself is stating that nobody is perfect. Seriously, as has been said before, gtfo.

Oh, and HT, awesome post. Great read, definitely. Great thread in general really.

Dude, lol, that irony was intended. But thanks for joining in with the crowd and asking me to leave, I think I shall ........... FOR NOW ... dun dun dun... Ok bye.
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
April 27 2007 21:32 GMT
#90
On April 28 2007 05:49 boghat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2007 01:31 Belial- wrote:
On April 27 2007 12:29 boghat wrote:
This was a cool thread but compliments like "great prose" seem to be overstating it a bit. HonestTea is no Hemmingway. He is good at stereotyping our favorite starcraft players with witty remarks though. Nice job but the post isn't perfect

edit: I just realized that english must be your second language, in which case it was definitely a nice piece of writing.


I find it ironic that he is pointing out the fact that the OP's post isn't perfect when the OP himself is stating that nobody is perfect. Seriously, as has been said before, gtfo.

Oh, and HT, awesome post. Great read, definitely. Great thread in general really.

Dude, lol, that irony was intended. But thanks for joining in with the crowd and asking me to leave, I think I shall ........... FOR NOW ... dun dun dun... Ok bye.

I've seen this one before, he's gonna come back with a gun.

Great read HonestTea, nice job.
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
April 27 2007 22:21 GMT
#91
On April 28 2007 01:31 Belial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2007 12:29 boghat wrote:
This was a cool thread but compliments like "great prose" seem to be overstating it a bit. HonestTea is no Hemmingway. He is good at stereotyping our favorite starcraft players with witty remarks though. Nice job but the post isn't perfect

edit: I just realized that english must be your second language, in which case it was definitely a nice piece of writing.


I find it ironic that he is pointing out the fact that the OP's post isn't perfect when the OP himself is stating that nobody is perfect. Seriously, as has been said before, gtfo.

Oh, and HT, awesome post. Great read, definitely. Great thread in general really.


He intentionally put that irony in there, thus, the wink icon. And I find it ironic that someone with 4 posts is telling one of our members to gtfo.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
April 27 2007 23:42 GMT
#92
On April 28 2007 05:49 boghat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2007 01:31 Belial- wrote:
On April 27 2007 12:29 boghat wrote:
This was a cool thread but compliments like "great prose" seem to be overstating it a bit. HonestTea is no Hemmingway. He is good at stereotyping our favorite starcraft players with witty remarks though. Nice job but the post isn't perfect

edit: I just realized that english must be your second language, in which case it was definitely a nice piece of writing.


I find it ironic that he is pointing out the fact that the OP's post isn't perfect when the OP himself is stating that nobody is perfect. Seriously, as has been said before, gtfo.

Oh, and HT, awesome post. Great read, definitely. Great thread in general really.

Dude, lol, that irony was intended. But thanks for joining in with the crowd and asking me to leave, I think I shall ........... FOR NOW ... dun dun dun... Ok bye.


If you do this in every thread we won't miss you. thank you for leaving!
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Belial-
Profile Joined April 2007
United States132 Posts
April 27 2007 23:43 GMT
#93
Yes, because post count is everything. You'd be surprised how long some of us have been lurking around TL without voicing anything Besides, myself telling him to gtfo wasn't ironic, it was in fact facetious, this is after all an internet forum. Anyway, yes I made a mistake. It happens, oh well. Let us not diverge any further from the point of the thread and let it lie here, shall we?

boghat
Profile Joined January 2007
United States2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-28 00:17:13
April 28 2007 00:16 GMT
#94
On April 28 2007 08:42 fusionsdf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2007 05:49 boghat wrote:
On April 28 2007 01:31 Belial- wrote:
On April 27 2007 12:29 boghat wrote:
This was a cool thread but compliments like "great prose" seem to be overstating it a bit. HonestTea is no Hemmingway. He is good at stereotyping our favorite starcraft players with witty remarks though. Nice job but the post isn't perfect

edit: I just realized that english must be your second language, in which case it was definitely a nice piece of writing.


I find it ironic that he is pointing out the fact that the OP's post isn't perfect when the OP himself is stating that nobody is perfect. Seriously, as has been said before, gtfo.

Oh, and HT, awesome post. Great read, definitely. Great thread in general really.

Dude, lol, that irony was intended. But thanks for joining in with the crowd and asking me to leave, I think I shall ........... FOR NOW ... dun dun dun... Ok bye.


If you do this in every thread we won't miss you. thank you for leaving!

I barely even criticized the original post in my reply. Wtf is the big deal for you, geez. You rather my post be another OMG GREAT THREAD LOL I WANT TO SUCK HONEST TEA'S DICK PLZ THX replay?

edit: oops I was supposed to leave
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
April 28 2007 10:24 GMT
#95
lol there's a lot of quoting going on here. I liked the blog, it gave an interesting perspective on the pros. You don't really get to hear much about the pros except that they won this or lost that it seems =/
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Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
April 28 2007 11:35 GMT
#96
rekrul can help us out with that
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Profile Joined August 2006
633 Posts
April 29 2007 13:34 GMT
#97
Vegeta SSJ!! AHHHHH!!!
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Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
April 29 2007 13:43 GMT
#98
Haha, good piece of writing. Looks like you got bored and ran out of things to say by the end though.
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Profile Joined April 2007
United States819 Posts
April 29 2007 14:39 GMT
#99
Nice post man, real good read
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Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
May 15 2007 13:47 GMT
#100
I just came.
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Belgium4001 Posts
May 15 2007 15:52 GMT
#101
i love you Honestea. Word.
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Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
May 15 2007 16:16 GMT
#102
Woah almost missed it!

Yes I love reach, so imperfect, losing peons here and there and getting nexi blown up w/ out cancling.

But when he focuses, when he uses every bit of his mind to controll those 2 reavers... When he just focus SO hard on that ONE templar, that ONE game deciding storm which melted half the opponent's army, dozen plus scv. You know he's there. Shot by arrows, staggered by barbed wires, yet still standing a hero. When he swings his sword you KNOW he's comming back, ignoring all the peckings of the arrows, meager flyign sticks, Toring free of the wires, soft noodles, Reach just get up in your face and WAM! You know he's there.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
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Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
May 15 2007 20:24 GMT
#103
Great read. Much love to you HonestTea.
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